Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck? - page 4.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 28, 2024, 10:54:36 PM

For example, if someone has had lot of experience in slot games and has had many defeats, then they will be able to think and assume how the real slot game works and that way they will be able to make good decisions and considerations every time they play in gambling.

Yea that true for some person but not the same for everyone. Despite being experienced in the game, some people still lose control of themselves when they go to the casino, they will still not be able to manage their bank roll.

I'm sorry friends but I think the example you gave is very bad, we should separate gambling with skill and luck, if you say that experience will be able to help us in gambling on a game like poker and blackjack of course I will strongly agree with you, because after all experience is the best teacher for us to be better than ever including when playing in gambling, But if you say that the experience of playing slots will give us the ability to analyze and make decisions in play, of course I disagree, because slot games rely heavily on luck, because usually the algorithms set by casinos and game systems are too difficult to understand, so there is indeed no definite strategy that can guarantee victory in slot games so far.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 30, 2024, 11:27:54 PM

Quote from: irsykes on October 30, 2024, 04:38:10 AM

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.

Luck plays a role in every game to win. I got some winnings playing slot games but it didn't satisfy me and most of the time I lost and got frustrated. I have a preference for betting trends that affect me greatly in groups or individually. Free spins can be rewarded at the start of a game or paid spins which I have little faith in as luck is not on my side most of the time and the rewards are very consistent here. In terms of bonus or sign bonus developers are more interested in their own profits rather than providing users with benefits. I think if you have to gamble you should put yourself on the gambling board by placing bets so as not to cause disappointment.

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Quote from: irsykes on October 30, 2024, 04:38:10 AM

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 30, 2024, 04:48:35 AM

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Quote from: irsykes on October 29, 2024, 05:44:43 PM

Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm.

I'm afraid that this don't happen to everybody. I don't play slots mostly because I am one of those that don't get that big win you're saying.

It just don't happen for the most of the slots players. I know that there can be some big wins day but it's easy to say and not gonna happen to the majority.

Slot games do provide an attraction, especially for those who have more time to play. especially if supported by a fairly large amount of funds. that is an advantage for slot game providers.
I say that because not many slot players get big wins in a row or even consistently. if you play more and for a longer time, you might lose more. slots do not guarantee us a big win even if we play all the time. maybe we should also calculate how much we have deposited to play and how much we get from the game.

That's true.

Slots is better if you've got a bigger bankroll that you'll have to support yourself while playing it until you win big or until you're done.

It's not just with slots that gives advantage when someone has a bigger fund but also with other luck based games. It makes you stay longer though.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 28, 2024, 10:54:36 PM

For example, if someone has had lot of experience in slot games and has had many defeats, then they will be able to think and assume how the real slot game works and that way they will be able to make good decisions and considerations every time they play in gambling.

Yea that true for some person but not the same for everyone. Despite being experienced in the game, some people still lose control of themselves when they go to the casino, they will still not be able to manage their bank roll.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 30, 2024, 01:25:17 PM

Quote from: Apocollapse on October 29, 2024, 10:40:49 AM

I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

I could bet (lol) that free games have different odds than real ones
aren't these provable verifiable? probably something possible to look into and consider, anyone here have looked into it?

We can't ignore too the fact that bonus and free money usually aren't used with the same respect as own money made with hard work

What do we actually expects from free money? It's not meant to have value and that is why we need to try harder for us to get lucky to win using free bets or bonus. Casino team are wise and they know that are will want to use their casino when we hear about free bets for new users. This is one of the tricks that is utilized here to attract more gamblers, even the ones that are not ready to try their lucks in new casinos. Everything boils down to the psychological approach when we hear about free stuffs. It is true that gamblers are easily attracted to free money and bets and this is why we kept seeing this approach used by different casinos.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on October 29, 2024, 10:40:49 AM

I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

I could bet (lol) that free games have different odds than real ones
aren't these provable verifiable? probably something possible to look into and consider, anyone here have looked into it?

We can't ignore too the fact that bonus and free money usually aren't used with the same respect as own money made with hard work

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 30, 2024, 04:48:35 AM

Quote from: boyptc on October 29, 2024, 05:48:38 PM

Quote from: irsykes on October 29, 2024, 05:44:43 PM

Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm.

I'm afraid that this don't happen to everybody. I don't play slots mostly because I am one of those that don't get that big win you're saying.

It just don't happen for the most of the slots players. I know that there can be some big wins day but it's easy to say and not gonna happen to the majority.

Slot games do provide an attraction, especially for those who have more time to play. especially if supported by a fairly large amount of funds. that is an advantage for slot game providers.
I say that because not many slot players get big wins in a row or even consistently. if you play more and for a longer time, you might lose more. slots do not guarantee us a big win even if we play all the time. maybe we should also calculate how much we have deposited to play and how much we get from the game.

right, the attraction of slot games is very big why many people are addicted to slot games and yes because they are curious about big wins. but the attraction makes people not realize that the money they have will slowly disappear. for example they win if one day, winning big is not comparable to the money that has been lost

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 25, 2024, 08:48:40 AM

Hi fellow degens. This has always been in my mind for the past couple of months and I can't get a definitive answer to satisfy my curiosity.

I have been playing online slot games for a few years now, mostly from Pragmatic Games and Evolution. One thing I noticed is that they rarely give out free games (if you're not going to use the buy bonus feature), and sometimes it may take you up to 200 spins before you get a free game which will only give shit rewards after all the spins are exhausted. This got me thinking, are those free games/spins really designed to be shit compared to the normal spin feature which, surprisingly, gives me decent profit during my sessions? If it is, then I think using the buy bonus feature is a trap to lure people into losing their money faster to the casino.

For a while, I thought the free games feature is better considering that multipliers are added to the factoring of wins at the end of each spin, but on my observation, I am getting wins in a high RTP game with normal spins rather than the bonus games feature.

Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

Of course, it does not mean that we receive free spins that we will win most of them; of course, in my opinion, it seems that it is already programmed if we only win a few times in the free spins that we will get if ever as a gambler.

Also, I don't think slot games are designed like that, because we know that slot games are really more about luck; think even if you are a newbie or old, you can play here and win
a lot of money right away.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 30, 2024, 04:48:35 AM

Slot games do provide an attraction, especially for those who have more time to play. especially if supported by a fairly large amount of funds. that is an advantage for slot game providers.
I say that because not many slot players get big wins in a row or even consistently. if you play more and for a longer time, you might lose more. slots do not guarantee us a big win even if we play all the time. maybe we should also calculate how much we have deposited to play and how much we get from the game.

That's true and I personally stopped playing slots altogether because I switched to sports betting, they are more interesting to me, although I understand the mechanism of their action. But at least there I have hope that something depends on my choice, at least at a minimum level, and I get more pleasure from this process. And as for slots, I have become absolutely uninterested in simply pressing a button and seeing different visual effects and funny sounds that some programmers made. Although those who like it, let them play, but it will definitely not be me.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 29, 2024, 05:48:38 PM

Quote from: irsykes on October 29, 2024, 05:44:43 PM

Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm.

I'm afraid that this don't happen to everybody. I don't play slots mostly because I am one of those that don't get that big win you're saying.

It just don't happen for the most of the slots players. I know that there can be some big wins day but it's easy to say and not gonna happen to the majority.

Slot games do provide an attraction, especially for those who have more time to play. especially if supported by a fairly large amount of funds. that is an advantage for slot game providers.
I say that because not many slot players get big wins in a row or even consistently. if you play more and for a longer time, you might lose more. slots do not guarantee us a big win even if we play all the time. maybe we should also calculate how much we have deposited to play and how much we get from the game.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 29, 2024, 10:09:32 PM

Quote from: irsykes on October 29, 2024, 05:44:43 PM

I do believe that luck can come at any time, but we don't know when it will come. Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm. But winning once can still be said to be a minus, considering the length of time playing and the comparison of wins and losses that we don't understand.

When we have luck, we can big win from slot game but the problem is we don't know when our luck comes. If you chase the win by playing slot all day, your chance to win will be reduce because you don't know when your luck comes. You can only try more and more but your chance to lose will be bigger. You will not realizes your money is gone because you are still trying to wins by keeps playing slot game.

That is why you needs to have more control when you want to play slot game because that game can makes you forget about everything. In the end, you will regrets when you use all money you have.

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

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Quote from: irsykes on October 29, 2024, 05:44:43 PM

I do believe that luck can come at any time, but we don't know when it will come. Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm. But winning once can still be said to be a minus, considering the length of time playing and the comparison of wins and losses that we don't understand.

When we have luck, we can big win from slot game but the problem is we don't know when our luck comes. If you chase the win by playing slot all day, your chance to win will be reduce because you don't know when your luck comes. You can only try more and more but your chance to lose will be bigger. You will not realizes your money is gone because you are still trying to wins by keeps playing slot game.

That is why you needs to have more control when you want to play slot game because that game can makes you forget about everything. In the end, you will regrets when you use all money you have.

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Quote from: irsykes on October 29, 2024, 05:44:43 PM

Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm.

I'm afraid that this don't happen to everybody. I don't play slots mostly because I am one of those that don't get that big win you're saying.

It just don't happen for the most of the slots players. I know that there can be some big wins day but it's easy to say and not gonna happen to the majority.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 29, 2024, 04:00:00 AM

Quote from: irsykes on October 26, 2024, 02:43:38 PM

they will not be aware of the comparison of losing and winning that they make themselves if they are still ambitious, only when their life journey there must be a point of condition below making them introspect. gradually it will create wise betting. and all gamblers have their own appeal from the hope of the strategy they make themselves bring their belief that they can get victory, and yes one day there will be victory for themselves

The ambitions will makes them blind of the comparison losing and winning and will not see that they don't have a big chance to win in gambling. They will still chase the win by keeping playing gambling and will not stop gambling even if they can win.

But if we talk about free games in online slot is suck or not, that will depends on your luck. If you don't have luck and lose, you will say that slot games is suck especially if you lose too much money. But if you win from slot games, you will not say slot games is suck even if that is for free spins. That will makes you return to play the other slot games to win but that will still need luck to win.

I do believe that luck can come at any time, but we don't know when it will come. Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm. But winning once can still be said to be a minus, considering the length of time playing and the comparison of wins and losses that we don't understand.

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Quote from: Raflesia on October 29, 2024, 04:23:40 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 25, 2024, 12:02:31 PM

yes, that's true, most of the people will bet expecting a good outcome and usually ignoring the risks
few are the ones who don't care about money at all and will simply play for the sake of playing, not even tracking, almost drugged and totally careless
you know what I mean?

Indeed, it is a common occurrence, now if compared to people who gamble without expecting it tends to be smaller than those who put their hopes on gambling, it is not strange that many continue to gamble even though they have experienced consecutive defeats, some even win until they lose a lot of money until they have no money left to survive. The real risk is a definite thing but many people ignore it, this is the problem caused by only thinking about winning.

A person who has or puts great hopes on gambling usually will not consider the actions they take even though they are aware that what they are going to do is risky but because of this hope, it is what drives players to continue gambling.

Not really that precise because if we do really tend to look at also is that even newer gamblers who do have those intents that they are really just that doing for fun but still they are really that bad when it comes to bankroll management. They could also spend out like there's no tomorrow on this kind of potential situation when you are really just that starting up on dealing up with gambling.

Do they really that being manipulated for the sake of winning up the game? Its not proven out but most of the time house do always win at the end on which having these kind of wagering requirements of
these casinos will really be having that huge advantage towards gamblers and thats why they do really end up on getting busted in the very end. This is why its really that important that you should really
be that not making yourself be greedy on the moment that you do able to make yourself greedy on the process.

Free games does mean that it is really that free of charge or even those bonuses but of course they wont really be giving out money that easily. There's those
requirements on which you would really be needing up to complete on before you could make a withdrawal.

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I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on October 23, 2024, 12:00:38 PM

On the moment that you do play gambling then you should really be wary about on the risks involved and be careful on trying out to control your emotions because this is where
people do usually mess up their lives because of having that wrong assumption on which it would really be leading up into that desperation on which this is really that something
which is really that dangerous.

There is no doubt about it, for me the main thing before playing each game in a casino is to allocate the money that I am willing to lose, if I lose everything, I do not bet more, that has worked for me for a long time, even the emotions are controlled in an impressive way, however, what I do in slot games is use it for therapeutic purposes, I only assign 5usd and from there what I do is play and play with the minimum, if I win it seems excellent to me, but if I lose I have not lost anything, on the contrary, this game makes me feel good and I see it as a service, like going to the movies, or going to eat a pizza, because it ends but I am left with the taste, and that helps me de-stress.

how much is that for you? like 1-2% of your total wealth or even total salary?
or more?

I think that one who's betting more than 2% is probably not thinking clearly and not fully grasping math

nice that you enjoy slots, I know people who get stressed out with it...

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 25, 2024, 12:02:31 PM

yes, that's true, most of the people will bet expecting a good outcome and usually ignoring the risks
few are the ones who don't care about money at all and will simply play for the sake of playing, not even tracking, almost drugged and totally careless
you know what I mean?

Indeed, it is a common occurrence, now if compared to people who gamble without expecting it tends to be smaller than those who put their hopes on gambling, it is not strange that many continue to gamble even though they have experienced consecutive defeats, some even win until they lose a lot of money until they have no money left to survive. The real risk is a definite thing but many people ignore it, this is the problem caused by only thinking about winning.

A person who has or puts great hopes on gambling usually will not consider the actions they take even though they are aware that what they are going to do is risky but because of this hope, it is what drives players to continue gambling.

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Quote from: irsykes on October 26, 2024, 02:43:38 PM

they will not be aware of the comparison of losing and winning that they make themselves if they are still ambitious, only when their life journey there must be a point of condition below making them introspect. gradually it will create wise betting. and all gamblers have their own appeal from the hope of the strategy they make themselves bring their belief that they can get victory, and yes one day there will be victory for themselves

The ambitions will makes them blind of the comparison losing and winning and will not see that they don't have a big chance to win in gambling. They will still chase the win by keeping playing gambling and will not stop gambling even if they can win.

But if we talk about free games in online slot is suck or not, that will depends on your luck. If you don't have luck and lose, you will say that slot games is suck especially if you lose too much money. But if you win from slot games, you will not say slot games is suck even if that is for free spins. That will makes you return to play the other slot games to win but that will still need luck to win.

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