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legendary
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I'm sorry friends but I think the example you gave is very bad, we should separate gambling with skill and luck, if you say that experience will be able to help us in gambling on a game like poker and blackjack of course I will strongly agree with you, because after all experience is the best teacher for us to be better than ever including when playing in gambling,  But if you say that the experience of playing slots will give us the ability to analyze and make decisions in  play, of course I disagree, because slot games rely heavily on luck, because usually the algorithms set by casinos and game systems are too difficult to understand, so there is indeed no definite strategy that can guarantee victory in slot games so far.

I think you are quoting wrongly if you are not reffering to me, because I didn't give such example and I also have the opinion that experience is not what seriously matters the most be rather luck is very much important and that's what is very possible for someone to win their games very often.

totally depends on the game
but regarding slots, yes, experience and skill won't even count, I mean, what is the skill you need to push a button like that and roll?
maybe one can argue that you need skill to select bet sizing?
still, luck will play a much major role than anything else.
Actually applying any strategies on playing slots is somewhat useless or doesnt have any sense. There's no way that you could be able to have that kind of advantage specially
on a game where it is really that considered to be pure luck based and there's no way that you could be able to affect out your winning rate on just applying those strategies.

Bare in mind that those are coded on which it is really that goes in line with casinos advantage. You could really be able to expect that the results or outcome will really be going in line on what we have choose.
If you are that extremely lucky then you might pull out some significant win but most of the time on which people will really be that on the losers side and this isnt something shocking anymore.
If gambling business isnt profitable into its owners then we wont really be seeing tons of sites around.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
I'm sorry friends but I think the example you gave is very bad, we should separate gambling with skill and luck, if you say that experience will be able to help us in gambling on a game like poker and blackjack of course I will strongly agree with you, because after all experience is the best teacher for us to be better than ever including when playing in gambling,  But if you say that the experience of playing slots will give us the ability to analyze and make decisions in  play, of course I disagree, because slot games rely heavily on luck, because usually the algorithms set by casinos and game systems are too difficult to understand, so there is indeed no definite strategy that can guarantee victory in slot games so far.

I think you are quoting wrongly if you are not reffering to me, because I didn't give such example and I also have the opinion that experience is not what seriously matters the most be rather luck is very much important and that's what is very possible for someone to win their games very often.

totally depends on the game
but regarding slots, yes, experience and skill won't even count, I mean, what is the skill you need to push a button like that and roll?
maybe one can argue that you need skill to select bet sizing?
still, luck will play a much major role than anything else.
hero member
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Luck plays a role in every game to win. I got some winnings playing slot games but it didn't satisfy me and most of the time I lost and got frustrated. I have a preference for betting trends that affect me greatly in groups or individually. Free spins can be rewarded at the start of a game or paid spins which I have little faith in as luck is not on my side most of the time and the rewards are very consistent here. In terms of bonus or sign bonus developers are more interested in their own profits rather than providing users with benefits. I think if you have to gamble you should put yourself on the gambling board by placing bets so as not to cause disappointment.
Yes, luck is the important thing in gambling so without luck, we will not win even we will lose the money. When you already win, you must stop gambling immediately and feels satisfy with your winning. But if you feels frustrated because you lost from free spins, you must calm down and thinks that free spins is just a thing that can makes you keep playing the slot game without stop for a while. That will be too risky for you because you will spends more money which you will not thinks twice if that is necessary or not. All you want to do is return to the games, use your real money as you think you will have more chances to win, but that will not happen as you want.

Free spins is just another temptation that we should not have a big expectation with it. We can get another free spins in the next days or when we are lucky enough to get it. What we need to do is just trying to have fun and enjoy our time.
hero member
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I'm sorry friends but I think the example you gave is very bad, we should separate gambling with skill and luck, if you say that experience will be able to help us in gambling on a game like poker and blackjack of course I will strongly agree with you, because after all experience is the best teacher for us to be better than ever including when playing in gambling,  But if you say that the experience of playing slots will give us the ability to analyze and make decisions in  play, of course I disagree, because slot games rely heavily on luck, because usually the algorithms set by casinos and game systems are too difficult to understand, so there is indeed no definite strategy that can guarantee victory in slot games so far.

I think you are quoting wrongly if you are not reffering to me, because I didn't give such example and I also have the opinion that experience is not what seriously matters the most be rather luck is very much important and that's what is very possible for someone to win their games very often.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

I could bet (lol) that free games have different odds than real ones
aren't these provable verifiable? probably something possible to look into and consider, anyone here have looked into it?

We can't ignore too the fact that bonus and free money usually aren't used with the same respect as own money made with hard work

What do we actually expects from free money? It's not meant to have value and that is why we need to try harder for us to get lucky to win using free bets or bonus. Casino team are wise and they know that are will want to use their casino when we hear about free bets for new users. This is one of the tricks that is utilized here to attract more gamblers, even the ones that are not ready to try their lucks in new casinos. Everything boils down to the psychological approach when we hear about free stuffs. It is true that gamblers are easily attracted to free money and bets and this is why we kept seeing this approach used by different casinos.

I don't know
some probably expect meme like returns in 24 hours
got 100 usd check for free for the cassino? You'll walk away with 1 million, trust it

just a joke but isn't it interesting how our expectations are many times really separate from reality?

I agree that everything boild down to a psychological level, do you think it changes anything if you approach the money like you earned, or if there are any ways to change this psychological attenuation for money you got as a gift?
hero member
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I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

I could bet (lol) that free games have different odds than real ones
aren't these provable verifiable? probably something possible to look into and consider, anyone here have looked into it?

We can't ignore too the fact that bonus and free money usually aren't used with the same respect as own money made with hard work

You have good concerns and I've thought the same way many times, losers also think that way due to disbelief of what just happened or regularly happens with the free money in comparison to using real money. The house is not foolish, you can imagine casinos giving some people a 1000% bonus, don't you think they will close their shops if it is always easy to make profits with such an insane bonus? That is why they increase the difficulty to make it almost impossible to gain from it and will also ensure that the Ts&Cs are so unfavourable to beat.
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For example, if someone has had lot of experience in slot games and has had many defeats, then they will be able to think and assume how the real slot game works and that way they will be able to make good decisions and considerations every time they play in gambling.

Yea that true for some person but not the same for everyone. Despite being experienced in the game, some people still lose control of themselves when they go to the casino, they will still not be able to manage their bank roll.
I'm sorry friends but I think the example you gave is very bad, we should separate gambling with skill and luck, if you say that experience will be able to help us in gambling on a game like poker and blackjack of course I will strongly agree with you, because after all experience is the best teacher for us to be better than ever including when playing in gambling,  But if you say that the experience of playing slots will give us the ability to analyze and make decisions in  play, of course I disagree, because slot games rely heavily on luck, because usually the algorithms set by casinos and game systems are too difficult to understand, so there is indeed no definite strategy that can guarantee victory in slot games so far.
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just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time
I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.
Luck plays a role in every game to win. I got some winnings playing slot games but it didn't satisfy me and most of the time I lost and got frustrated. I have a preference for betting trends that affect me greatly in groups or individually. Free spins can be rewarded at the start of a game or paid spins which I have little faith in as luck is not on my side most of the time and the rewards are very consistent here. In terms of bonus or sign bonus developers are more interested in their own profits rather than providing users with benefits. I think if you have to gamble you should put yourself on the gambling board by placing bets so as not to cause disappointment.
hero member
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just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time
I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.
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Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm.
I'm afraid that this don't happen to everybody. I don't play slots mostly because I am one of those that don't get that big win you're saying.

It just don't happen for the most of the slots players. I know that there can be some big wins day but it's easy to say and not gonna happen to the majority.

Slot games do provide an attraction, especially for those who have more time to play. especially if supported by a fairly large amount of funds. that is an advantage for slot game providers.
I say that because not many slot players get big wins in a row or even consistently. if you play more and for a longer time, you might lose more. slots do not guarantee us a big win even if we play all the time. maybe we should also calculate how much we have deposited to play and how much we get from the game.
That's true.

Slots is better if you've got a bigger bankroll that you'll have to support yourself while playing it until you win big or until you're done.

It's not just with slots that gives advantage when someone has a bigger fund but also with other luck based games. It makes you stay longer though.
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For example, if someone has had lot of experience in slot games and has had many defeats, then they will be able to think and assume how the real slot game works and that way they will be able to make good decisions and considerations every time they play in gambling.

Yea that true for some person but not the same for everyone. Despite being experienced in the game, some people still lose control of themselves when they go to the casino, they will still not be able to manage their bank roll.
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I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

I could bet (lol) that free games have different odds than real ones
aren't these provable verifiable? probably something possible to look into and consider, anyone here have looked into it?

We can't ignore too the fact that bonus and free money usually aren't used with the same respect as own money made with hard work

What do we actually expects from free money? It's not meant to have value and that is why we need to try harder for us to get lucky to win using free bets or bonus. Casino team are wise and they know that are will want to use their casino when we hear about free bets for new users. This is one of the tricks that is utilized here to attract more gamblers, even the ones that are not ready to try their lucks in new casinos. Everything boils down to the psychological approach when we hear about free stuffs. It is true that gamblers are easily attracted to free money and bets and this is why we kept seeing this approach used by different casinos.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

I could bet (lol) that free games have different odds than real ones
aren't these provable verifiable? probably something possible to look into and consider, anyone here have looked into it?

We can't ignore too the fact that bonus and free money usually aren't used with the same respect as own money made with hard work
sr. member
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Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm.
I'm afraid that this don't happen to everybody. I don't play slots mostly because I am one of those that don't get that big win you're saying.

It just don't happen for the most of the slots players. I know that there can be some big wins day but it's easy to say and not gonna happen to the majority.

Slot games do provide an attraction, especially for those who have more time to play. especially if supported by a fairly large amount of funds. that is an advantage for slot game providers.
I say that because not many slot players get big wins in a row or even consistently. if you play more and for a longer time, you might lose more. slots do not guarantee us a big win even if we play all the time. maybe we should also calculate how much we have deposited to play and how much we get from the game.
right, the attraction of slot games is very big why many people are addicted to slot games and yes because they are curious about big wins. but the attraction makes people not realize that the money they have will slowly disappear. for example they win if one day, winning big is not comparable to the money that has been lost
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Hi fellow degens. This has always been in my mind for the past couple of months and I can't get a definitive answer to satisfy my curiosity.

I have been playing online slot games for a few years now, mostly from Pragmatic Games and Evolution. One thing I noticed is that they rarely give out free games (if you're not going to use the buy bonus feature), and sometimes it may take you up to 200 spins before you get a free game which will only give shit rewards after all the spins are exhausted. This got me thinking, are those free games/spins really designed to be shit compared to the normal spin feature which, surprisingly, gives me decent profit during my sessions? If it is, then I think using the buy bonus feature is a trap to lure people into losing their money faster to the casino.

For a while, I thought the free games feature is better considering that multipliers are added to the factoring of wins at the end of each spin, but on my observation, I am getting wins in a high RTP game with normal spins rather than the bonus games feature.

Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

Of course, it does not mean that we receive free spins that we will win most of them; of course, in my opinion, it seems that it is already programmed if we only win a few times in the free spins that we will get if ever as a gambler.

Also, I don't think slot games are designed like that, because we know that slot games are really more about luck; think even if you are a newbie or old, you can play here and win
 a lot of money right away.
legendary
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Slot games do provide an attraction, especially for those who have more time to play. especially if supported by a fairly large amount of funds. that is an advantage for slot game providers.
I say that because not many slot players get big wins in a row or even consistently. if you play more and for a longer time, you might lose more. slots do not guarantee us a big win even if we play all the time. maybe we should also calculate how much we have deposited to play and how much we get from the game.
That's true and I personally stopped playing slots altogether because I switched to sports betting, they are more interesting to me, although I understand the mechanism of their action. But at least there I have hope that something depends on my choice, at least at a minimum level, and I get more pleasure from this process. And as for slots, I have become absolutely uninterested in simply pressing a button and seeing different visual effects and funny sounds that some programmers made. Although those who like it, let them play, but it will definitely not be me.
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Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm.
I'm afraid that this don't happen to everybody. I don't play slots mostly because I am one of those that don't get that big win you're saying.

It just don't happen for the most of the slots players. I know that there can be some big wins day but it's easy to say and not gonna happen to the majority.

Slot games do provide an attraction, especially for those who have more time to play. especially if supported by a fairly large amount of funds. that is an advantage for slot game providers.
I say that because not many slot players get big wins in a row or even consistently. if you play more and for a longer time, you might lose more. slots do not guarantee us a big win even if we play all the time. maybe we should also calculate how much we have deposited to play and how much we get from the game.
sr. member
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I do believe that luck can come at any time, but we don't know when it will come. Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm. But winning once can still be said to be a minus, considering the length of time playing and the comparison of wins and losses that we don't understand.
When we have luck, we can big win from slot game but the problem is we don't know when our luck comes. If you chase the win by playing slot all day, your chance to win will be reduce because you don't know when your luck comes. You can only try more and more but your chance to lose will be bigger. You will not realizes your money is gone because you are still trying to wins by keeps playing slot game.

That is why you needs to have more control when you want to play slot game because that game can makes you forget about everything. In the end, you will regrets when you use all money you have.
just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time
hero member
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Merit: 541
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I do believe that luck can come at any time, but we don't know when it will come. Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm. But winning once can still be said to be a minus, considering the length of time playing and the comparison of wins and losses that we don't understand.
When we have luck, we can big win from slot game but the problem is we don't know when our luck comes. If you chase the win by playing slot all day, your chance to win will be reduce because you don't know when your luck comes. You can only try more and more but your chance to lose will be bigger. You will not realizes your money is gone because you are still trying to wins by keeps playing slot game.

That is why you needs to have more control when you want to play slot game because that game can makes you forget about everything. In the end, you will regrets when you use all money you have.
hero member
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Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm.
I'm afraid that this don't happen to everybody. I don't play slots mostly because I am one of those that don't get that big win you're saying.

It just don't happen for the most of the slots players. I know that there can be some big wins day but it's easy to say and not gonna happen to the majority.
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