Some people will tell you that what you use money for its achievement will tend to last more than the one that just comes on a platter of gold, we should know this for that reason, free things are sometime unpredictable and their value may not be as up to to the quality of what we get when we are actually using our own earned personal money for gambling, i don't know what's behind this, but that is how it has been for some time now.
This isn't completely true, there are people who had free money come their way and were able to use it well enough to get the very best off the money and today they have got investments they did made off the free money, so it's not all the cases that free money literally gets squandered without making something good off it, but then your idea does play out some times a d not always. 
Topic: Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck? - page 8. (Read 3497 times)
I thought it only happened in my environment, but it turns out it happened in other environments too. I think this happens because of the different beliefs of each of us, because if you say players who choose to spam buy free spins maybe it's only for people who don't want to bother, knowing the results will lose so they don't bother to spam buy free spins. Besides that, I'm sure you yourself have your own way of playing, once I found a video that gave a trick to spin manually several times and immediately auto spin 1000x and in just a few spins I had gotten free spins, I had believed in this trick but with the next gamble I did doing this trick didn't work, from here I think there really is no accurate trick at all.
With the results that cannot be predicted, of course there are times when the results can give us an advantage but it is indeed very rare because free spins do not guarantee that we can get a definite win.
there is no guarantee of a trick from spam buy free spins. because I also do it repeatedly and only go up a few percent for hours but in the end it disappears because of the ambition of targets like neighbors. I have done various tricks in the slot game world until I am disappointed. and comfortable with sports betting which I consider more optimal for making moneyWith the results that cannot be predicted, of course there are times when the results can give us an advantage but it is indeed very rare because free spins do not guarantee that we can get a definite win.
You yourself may feel disappointed because there is no accurate trick to win until you switch to sports betting, I myself feel what you feel, but I don't switch, it's just that I limit the games I play with limitations from various angles, by clearly understanding the luck factor that plays a big role in slot gambling.
Good for you that are able to control yourself when playing slots. Maybe you have not hit a big win in them which would directly make you a really passionate person about them and many other slot players who continue playing slots up to now have definitely hit a huge win me included. The problem is that the slot machines give that huge win once in some years and they eat your money really fast most of the time. That is why I don't suggest you keep playing slots, they are not for most of us, they will rob us of our money most of the time and makes us feel really bad. It is good to play sport bets as I am converting to them slow slow and I see more potential here, less time consuming bets and definitely very hard to get addicted to compared to slots.
As for the bonus games they are designed to suck most of the times and this is definitely not going to change.
Not always, or I mean the result of the free spin bonus round does not always end up being annoying, and the point is that the result is always random in the sense that the free spin bonus can give you some wins but it is also very possible to make you end up disappointed when it turns out that the spin bonus runs very badly, but overall, don't expect too much, because after all, something bad must happen much more often than tempting results.
On the other hand, I see that most gamblers who make casino games their favorite game are really obsessed with the name of the free spin bonus and sometimes there are also some of them who are willing to make several deposits just to chase the free spin bonus through manual spins, the mistake is that they are not aware that the free spin bonus does not always guarantee victory.
On the other hand, I see that most gamblers who make casino games their favorite game are really obsessed with the name of the free spin bonus and sometimes there are also some of them who are willing to make several deposits just to chase the free spin bonus through manual spins, the mistake is that they are not aware that the free spin bonus does not always guarantee victory.
It is true what you said with the understanding that as entertainment then it is likely that we will not feel disappointed when the results of gambling end in defeat, besides that we should be able to accept it because it is likely that the gambling we do ends in disappointment, but with the aim of only entertainment then there is no feeling of disappointment but maybe there is only that it does not affect our emotional feelings because with people whose goal is to seek profit of course they will feel disappointed with the results that occur are defeat and that can make them emotional.
I do not agree if you say Free spin was created to really annoy players, because it is clear that this game involves luck that determines the final result so no matter how gambling is done the results will not be able to make us win for sure, players must be aware of the luck factor not just trying as hard as they can.
If we use gambling as entertainment, we know about the risk that we can get in anytime so we will always prevent the risks becomes big. Playing gambling is like spend your money in other thing that you will not regret because you realize that need money to have fun.I do not agree if you say Free spin was created to really annoy players, because it is clear that this game involves luck that determines the final result so no matter how gambling is done the results will not be able to make us win for sure, players must be aware of the luck factor not just trying as hard as they can.
So when you lose the money, you will not too disappointed or regret because you already realize that should happen and you should manage your money that you want to use to playing gambling. You will not chase the win in slot game or other gambling games because that can make you lose more money.
Many times we see people trigger to continue playing many slot gams after they lose in free spins and that because their curiosity becomes high. They think that with playing for more can recover their losses with making some profit but that will not always happen because slot game need luck to win.
Maybe it only applies to people who have a good mindset, because with a good mindset they will not think that gambling can give them certain benefits, so when the free spins they get end up disappointing them, they will understand it because they know there is no clear certainty that they can win in slot gambling in any way. Even though they use a relatively large bet amount, they will realize that luck cannot be determined by that. For people who have a mindset that they can benefit from gambling, they can be more interested in gambling when they almost win, for example by getting free spins and getting a big multiplier but the end result is a defeat, then they will think about betting again because they feel a little more they will win, and what happens is they chase victory while victory in slot gambling is uncertain.
That is why we must build understanding that gambling can not gives benefits to them and only for have fun in our free time. By realizing that, we will not feels disappointed when we can not win in slot game.Even if we gets a free spins, we will not complaint if we lose because slot game rely on the luck and no clear uncertainty. We can only enjoy the gift from the casino or by buying the bonus buy and not have a big expectation that when we buy the bonus, that will help us to win.
If they think that buy the bonus will give them a big chance to win, they should be prepare not to get anything or win small amount because the chance will not too big. Winning in slot game will still difficult because that game need luck to win.
I do not agree if you say Free spin was created to really annoy players, because it is clear that this game involves luck that determines the final result so no matter how gambling is done the results will not be able to make us win for sure, players must be aware of the luck factor not just trying as hard as they can.
Some people will tell you that what you use money for its achievement will tend to last more than the one that just comes on a platter of gold, we should know this for that reason, free things are sometime unpredictable and their value may not be as up to to the quality of what we get when we are actually using our own earned personal money for gambling, i don't know what's behind this, but that is how it has been for some time now.
Hi fellow degens. This has always been in my mind for the past couple of months and I can't get a definitive answer to satisfy my curiosity.
I have been playing online slot games for a few years now, mostly from Pragmatic Games and Evolution. One thing I noticed is that they rarely give out free games (if you're not going to use the buy bonus feature), and sometimes it may take you up to 200 spins before you get a free game which will only give shit rewards after all the spins are exhausted. This got me thinking, are those free games/spins really designed to be shit compared to the normal spin feature which, surprisingly, gives me decent profit during my sessions? If it is, then I think using the buy bonus feature is a trap to lure people into losing their money faster to the casino.
For a while, I thought the free games feature is better considering that multipliers are added to the factoring of wins at the end of each spin, but on my observation, I am getting wins in a high RTP game with normal spins rather than the bonus games feature.
Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?
I have been playing online slot games for a few years now, mostly from Pragmatic Games and Evolution. One thing I noticed is that they rarely give out free games (if you're not going to use the buy bonus feature), and sometimes it may take you up to 200 spins before you get a free game which will only give shit rewards after all the spins are exhausted. This got me thinking, are those free games/spins really designed to be shit compared to the normal spin feature which, surprisingly, gives me decent profit during my sessions? If it is, then I think using the buy bonus feature is a trap to lure people into losing their money faster to the casino.
For a while, I thought the free games feature is better considering that multipliers are added to the factoring of wins at the end of each spin, but on my observation, I am getting wins in a high RTP game with normal spins rather than the bonus games feature.
Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?
In my experience it can really vary between gambling sites - some are generous and others are absolutely stingy with the amount they will ever pay out on free games. I used to play consistently at one gambling site which would pay out almost every other day on free games and did that for a couple years, who know's why they let me get away with it for so long - but eventually it got restricted. Other sites I might have played every day for months but rarely got anything. Ultimately they want people to deposit money and lose it, so they're not going to keep giving away an endless supply back to users without the users spending money.
I thought it only happened in my environment, but it turns out it happened in other environments too. I think this happens because of the different beliefs of each of us, because if you say players who choose to spam buy free spins maybe it's only for people who don't want to bother, knowing the results will lose so they don't bother to spam buy free spins. Besides that, I'm sure you yourself have your own way of playing, once I found a video that gave a trick to spin manually several times and immediately auto spin 1000x and in just a few spins I had gotten free spins, I had believed in this trick but with the next gamble I did doing this trick didn't work, from here I think there really is no accurate trick at all.
With the results that cannot be predicted, of course there are times when the results can give us an advantage but it is indeed very rare because free spins do not guarantee that we can get a definite win.
there is no guarantee of a trick from spam buy free spins. because I also do it repeatedly and only go up a few percent for hours but in the end it disappears because of the ambition of targets like neighbors. I have done various tricks in the slot game world until I am disappointed. and comfortable with sports betting which I consider more optimal for making moneyWith the results that cannot be predicted, of course there are times when the results can give us an advantage but it is indeed very rare because free spins do not guarantee that we can get a definite win.
You yourself may feel disappointed because there is no accurate trick to win until you switch to sports betting, I myself feel what you feel, but I don't switch, it's just that I limit the games I play with limitations from various angles, by clearly understanding the luck factor that plays a big role in slot gambling.
Good for you that are able to control yourself when playing slots. Maybe you have not hit a big win in them which would directly make you a really passionate person about them and many other slot players who continue playing slots up to now have definitely hit a huge win me included. The problem is that the slot machines give that huge win once in some years and they eat your money really fast most of the time. That is why I don't suggest you keep playing slots, they are not for most of us, they will rob us of our money most of the time and makes us feel really bad. It is good to play sport bets as I am converting to them slow slow and I see more potential here, less time consuming bets and definitely very hard to get addicted to compared to slots.
As for the bonus games they are designed to suck most of the times and this is definitely not going to change.
I thought it only happened in my environment, but it turns out it happened in other environments too. I think this happens because of the different beliefs of each of us, because if you say players who choose to spam buy free spins maybe it's only for people who don't want to bother, knowing the results will lose so they don't bother to spam buy free spins. Besides that, I'm sure you yourself have your own way of playing, once I found a video that gave a trick to spin manually several times and immediately auto spin 1000x and in just a few spins I had gotten free spins, I had believed in this trick but with the next gamble I did doing this trick didn't work, from here I think there really is no accurate trick at all.
With the results that cannot be predicted, of course there are times when the results can give us an advantage but it is indeed very rare because free spins do not guarantee that we can get a definite win.
there is no guarantee of a trick from spam buy free spins. because I also do it repeatedly and only go up a few percent for hours but in the end it disappears because of the ambition of targets like neighbors. I have done various tricks in the slot game world until I am disappointed. and comfortable with sports betting which I consider more optimal for making moneyWith the results that cannot be predicted, of course there are times when the results can give us an advantage but it is indeed very rare because free spins do not guarantee that we can get a definite win.
You yourself may feel disappointed because there is no accurate trick to win until you switch to sports betting, I myself feel what you feel, but I don't switch, it's just that I limit the games I play with limitations from various angles, by clearly understanding the luck factor that plays a big role in slot gambling.
In deposit bonus spins it seems do not give you large gains because imagine they are offering a hundred of spins and of course, the value of it is like the minimum bet as you keep observing on it, now on the buy bonus they are just offering you a head start multiplier if you hit which can give a good gains too but if not of course there's no assurance that once you bought it already you will win, sometimes takes a lot of chills and deadspins before you hit a return money back or else considered as lose. Its better to have free spins than never this added to give spices to the game.
It's logical, everyone is forced to deposit on the casino, how else are you going to participate? Looking at it from this point of view, it's perfectly sensible for deposit bonuses to suck. Offering a major bonus on every single deposit isn't feasible and it would quickly result in the casino going bankrupt. They don't have to offer you something, but it's nice to receive a free spins just for the sake of the entertainment, even if you receive nothing in return. A domestic casino was providing free spins, no strings attached, with signup, out of 20 or 30 spins, I yielded the great returns of $0.50, which perhaps I could bet on another game and win. Who knows?
I guess op is pointing out a good reason about free spins although I hardly engage in free spins, it’s obvious you can’t win huge or else it must be attached with a deposit money. It’s more like a free win or lose you never paid for so you accept whatever amount in return, It also depends on the game type since we don’t get to win huge with our money talk more of bonus winning. I can’t totally agree with this opinion because I hardly measure my wins aside that I think the casino don’t add much when dealing with bonus.
I am a little confused by your statement, but what the OP said can mean two things, first like what you mentioned and secondly the bonus rounds that we get from several rounds which of course use deposit money to start and get freespins, but if you look at it from your point of view it does make this actually require god-level luck if playing gambling only relies on bonuses from certain events to get free spins. 
I guess op is pointing out a good reason about free spins although I hardly engage in free spins, it’s obvious you can’t win huge or else it must be attached with a deposit money. It’s more like a free win or lose you never paid for so you accept whatever amount in return, It also depends on the game type since we don’t get to win huge with our money talk more of bonus winning. I can’t totally agree with this opinion because I hardly measure my wins aside that I think the casino don’t add much when dealing with bonus.
In deposit bonus spins it seems do not give you large gains because imagine they are offering a hundred of spins and of course, the value of it is like the minimum bet as you keep observing on it, now on the buy bonus they are just offering you a head start multiplier if you hit which can give a good gains too but if not of course there's no assurance that once you bought it already you will win, sometimes takes a lot of chills and deadspins before you hit a return money back or else considered as lose. Its better to have free spins than never this added to give spices to the game.
It's logical, everyone is forced to deposit on the casino, how else are you going to participate? Looking at it from this point of view, it's perfectly sensible for deposit bonuses to suck. Offering a major bonus on every single deposit isn't feasible and it would quickly result in the casino going bankrupt. They don't have to offer you something, but it's nice to receive a free spins just for the sake of the entertainment, even if you receive nothing in return. A domestic casino was providing free spins, no strings attached, with signup, out of 20 or 30 spins, I yielded the great returns of $0.50, which perhaps I could bet on another game and win. Who knows? hero member
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I have always wondered about the same thing. I have observed that when we get free spins from normal spins, we tend to get nothing most of the time, whereas if we buy bonus features, we tend to get better rewards. I have always thought that there must be something behind this, and I also believe that there must be a difference in generating the outcome of the two games in the back-end.
Most people always think that there's something behind such performance for every free spin and not only on free spins but even most times while wagering some money. The truth is that we can not even know when the casino is cheating us and when they are not. Only few people on the forum that I see making positive comment about free spin and bonus.
I can't say for sure, but I'm feeling the same way, OP. Every time I've received bonus spins or anything else, whether that was from a deposit, during signup, or given away at random intervals, they all yielded no returns. I'm not sure if it's a simple coincidence, but it's something I've noticed myself. I understand it's frustrating, but I'm thinking, on the one hand, that nothing is provided free of charge, and it makes sense to not expect any major earnings from a few free spins you were given, but on the other hand, what's the point of "treating" you with a gift that has zero effects?
And even in land based wherein you will be given a free spin, it didn't yield anything and I haven't seen anyone winning from that free spin. Or even if you used the points in your card to play, somewhat they could detect that they are using your points and maybe it was rigged or the algorithm or RNG has chance.
Anyhow, this could just a way to attract when we initially deposit on casinos and so we are very much attractive to it and continue to play and hope that the free games might give us something. I'm not going to generalized, but maybe majority has the same sentiments as well the free games really suck.
Using up some free spins or whatever bonuses that they will really be having then its normal that they will offering it out because they will really be trying out to hook up people as much as possible.
So it would really be that understandable that or something that will really be common sense that they would really be that advantage and as a gambler then you should really be that wary for that
then when it comes to this manner. It will really be that just depending on you as a gambler and as long we are really that talking about having some fun then this is something which is really that important
Free games? Cant be considered as a gambling because if we do speak about gambling then its something that you would really be needing up to risks. You do risks up money to earn something.
If its free then its not something you can called gambling. So it will really be that depending on you whether you would really be getting serious because this is where people do get trapped
and ending up on becoming addicted.
I can't say for sure, but I'm feeling the same way, OP. Every time I've received bonus spins or anything else, whether that was from a deposit, during signup, or given away at random intervals, they all yielded no returns. I'm not sure if it's a simple coincidence, but it's something I've noticed myself. I understand it's frustrating, but I'm thinking, on the one hand, that nothing is provided free of charge, and it makes sense to not expect any major earnings from a few free spins you were given, but on the other hand, what's the point of "treating" you with a gift that has zero effects?
In deposit bonus spins it seems do not give you large gains because imagine they are offering a hundred of spins and of course, the value of it is like the minimum bet as you keep observing on it, now on the buy bonus they are just offering you a head start multiplier if you hit which can give a good gains too but if not of course there's no assurance that once you bought it already you will win, sometimes takes a lot of chills and deadspins before you hit a return money back or else considered as lose. Its better to have free spins than never this added to give spices to the game.
I can't say for sure, but I'm feeling the same way, OP. Every time I've received bonus spins or anything else, whether that was from a deposit, during signup, or given away at random intervals, they all yielded no returns. I'm not sure if it's a simple coincidence, but it's something I've noticed myself. I understand it's frustrating, but I'm thinking, on the one hand, that nothing is provided free of charge, and it makes sense to not expect any major earnings from a few free spins you were given, but on the other hand, what's the point of "treating" you with a gift that has zero effects?
I think you just weren't very lucky with this. In the past, I often played poker and was given bonus free spins. And I want to say that in the beginning, I also constantly couldn't win anything. Time after time, I spun the roulette and slots and the result was always the same - nothing. But one time I got mad and decided to play 1/35 or something like that, I don't remember what it's called, so I won and on my ten dollar bet won almost 350 (of course, there was a casino commission). And they allowed me to withdraw this money.
Besides, no amount of effort or studying can change the outcome. So, if we get a winning opportunity, we stop thinking of having more because, chances are, the losses will start piling up after that. That is why we don’t hesitate—cash out while we can!
I can't say for sure, but I'm feeling the same way, OP. Every time I've received bonus spins or anything else, whether that was from a deposit, during signup, or given away at random intervals, they all yielded no returns. I'm not sure if it's a simple coincidence, but it's something I've noticed myself. I understand it's frustrating, but I'm thinking, on the one hand, that nothing is provided free of charge, and it makes sense to not expect any major earnings from a few free spins you were given, but on the other hand, what's the point of "treating" you with a gift that has zero effects?
And even in land based wherein you will be given a free spin, it didn't yield anything and I haven't seen anyone winning from that free spin. Or even if you used the points in your card to play, somewhat they could detect that they are using your points and maybe it was rigged or the algorithm or RNG has chance.
Anyhow, this could just a way to attract when we initially deposit on casinos and so we are very much attractive to it and continue to play and hope that the free games might give us something. I'm not going to generalized, but maybe majority has the same sentiments as well the free games really suck.
I can't say for sure, but I'm feeling the same way, OP. Every time I've received bonus spins or anything else, whether that was from a deposit, during signup, or given away at random intervals, they all yielded no returns. I'm not sure if it's a simple coincidence, but it's something I've noticed myself. I understand it's frustrating, but I'm thinking, on the one hand, that nothing is provided free of charge, and it makes sense to not expect any major earnings from a few free spins you were given, but on the other hand, what's the point of "treating" you with a gift that has zero effects?
I think you just weren't very lucky with this. In the past, I often played poker and was given bonus free spins. And I want to say that in the beginning, I also constantly couldn't win anything. Time after time, I spun the roulette and slots and the result was always the same - nothing. But one time I got mad and decided to play 1/35 or something like that, I don't remember what it's called, so I won and on my ten dollar bet won almost 350 (of course, there was a casino commission). And they allowed me to withdraw this money.
And even in land based wherein you will be given a free spin, it didn't yield anything and I haven't seen anyone winning from that free spin. Or even if you used the points in your card to play, somewhat they could detect that they are using your points and maybe it was rigged or the algorithm or RNG has chance.
Anyhow, this could just a way to attract when we initially deposit on casinos and so we are very much attractive to it and continue to play and hope that the free games might give us something. I'm not going to generalized, but maybe majority has the same sentiments as well the free games really suck.
On the one hand, it pisses you off, and you'll call their free spins rigged, but generally, it's best not to jump to conclusions or make assumptions on something we don't have evidence for. As I mentioned earlier, it makes perfect sense why it's not reasonable to expect major returns (or any) from something that's provided free, or as a bonus; it's a trick they use to lure you into betting or depositing more to keep you motivated to spend. In the best scenario, you'll make a few bucks and be proud of yourself, but in reality, you've just fallen into their trap; it was all a part of their plan.Anyhow, this could just a way to attract when we initially deposit on casinos and so we are very much attractive to it and continue to play and hope that the free games might give us something. I'm not going to generalized, but maybe majority has the same sentiments as well the free games really suck.
I align with you here and you explained it better than the OP. This is not about the first bonus, subsequent ones or the ones attached to a certain game progress, it is all about paying (consequence) for the casino games. It will always be tricky and will not yield as expected. All casino games, be it Slot games or not, are working similarly in terms of the result and the experience of the players, the more we admit that, the more we will face the reality and they will not bother us much.
As I said in a similar topic reply, all these are luck-based games, they are not designed for us to make anything good out of them, until that lucky moment comes, let us keep trying but not trust anything.
That's my point, having major expectations from luck-based games usually isn't going to have the outcome we'd anticipate, let alone from bonuses such as free spins. As I said in a similar topic reply, all these are luck-based games, they are not designed for us to make anything good out of them, until that lucky moment comes, let us keep trying but not trust anything.
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