Topic: Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck? - page 9. (Read 3497 times)

I align with you here and you explained it better than the OP. This is not about the first bonus, subsequent ones or the ones attached to a certain game progress, it is all about paying (consequence) for the casino games. It will always be tricky and will not yield as expected. All casino games, be it Slot games or not, are working similarly in terms of the result and the experience of the players, the more we admit that, the more we will face the reality and they will not bother us much.

As I said in a similar topic reply, all these are luck-based games, they are not designed for us to make anything good out of them, until that lucky moment comes, let us keep trying but not trust anything.

And even in land based wherein you will be given a free spin, it didn't yield anything and I haven't seen anyone winning from that free spin. Or even if you used the points in your card to play, somewhat they could detect that they are using your points and maybe it was rigged or the algorithm or RNG has chance.

Anyhow, this could just a way to attract when we initially deposit on casinos and so we are very much attractive to it and continue to play and hope that the free games might give us something. I'm not going to generalized, but maybe majority has the same sentiments as well the free games really suck.

That is why we must build understanding that gambling can not gives benefits to them and only for have fun in our free time. By realizing that, we will not feels disappointed when we can not win in slot game.
Even if we gets a free spins, we will not complaint if we lose because slot game rely on the luck and no clear uncertainty. We can only enjoy the gift from the casino or by buying the bonus buy and not have a big expectation that when we buy the bonus, that will help us to win.
If they think that buy the bonus will give them a big chance to win, they should be prepare not to get anything or win small amount because the chance will not too big. Winning in slot game will still difficult because that game need luck to win.

I can't say for sure, but I'm feeling the same way, OP. Every time I've received bonus spins or anything else, whether that was from a deposit, during signup, or given away at random intervals, they all yielded no returns. I'm not sure if it's a simple coincidence, but it's something I've noticed myself. I understand it's frustrating, but I'm thinking, on the one hand, that nothing is provided free of charge, and it makes sense to not expect any major earnings from a few free spins you were given, but on the other hand, what's the point of "treating" you with a gift that has zero effects?

Maybe it only applies to people who have a good mindset, because with a good mindset they will not think that gambling can give them certain benefits, so when the free spins they get end up disappointing them, they will understand it because they know there is no clear certainty that they can win in slot gambling in any way. Even though they use a relatively large bet amount, they will realize that luck cannot be determined by that. For people who have a mindset that they can benefit from gambling, they can be more interested in gambling when they almost win, for example by getting free spins and getting a big multiplier but the end result is a defeat, then they will think about betting again because they feel a little more they will win, and what happens is they chase victory while victory in slot gambling is uncertain.

I agree with what you said, indeed, big wins are based on luck alone that will determine it. In addition, we have our own way of gambling, whether it's buying the buy spin feature or waiting by doing a manual spin. I myself sometimes do it manually, but occasionally when I'm feeling confident I buy the buy spin feature just to try my luck, but the results are not far from disappointing. As far as I can remember, with the buy spin feature that I did, there has never been anything that really satisfied me with the results, I once got a big multiplier and a fairly big win for me, even though it was obtained from free spins that were obtained accidentally because I played manually. I have my own habits where when I am going to gamble, I confidently play a game that doesn't have a buy spin feature, but when the balance starts to run low, I limit it to the number of spin purchases and when the balance reaches the minimum buy spin, I switch games to immediately buy the spin feature. The results are unpredictable, what's not strange is just defeat hahaha

Though I'm not an expert on things such as RNGs and other stuff, I have always wondered about the same thing. I have observed that when we get free spins from normal spins, we tend to get nothing most of the time, whereas if we buy bonus features, we tend to get better rewards. I have always thought that there must be something behind this, and I also believe that there must be a difference in generating the outcome of the two games in the back-end.

The algorithms must be programmed in a way that they shouldn't reward much when someone wins free spins from normal games but they should get better rewards when they buy spins with money so that they keep buying more bonus features. We know we can't beat the house, but greed is something that makes us do such things all the time.

I believe that because I see in this forum, some people have their luck and win huge money. They can also withdraw the money without having a problem so they can enjoy the money. But we should know that free spins can not always gives the huge winning because that will depends on our luck
The house will always win at the end, so no matters how hard we try, we may lose the money. We can against the house and only need to enjoy the game without think about the winning.
Our concern is just how to prevent from playing gambling excessively to save our money.

I agree with you because those who losses their bonus will curious why they can lose even with free spins. They think that free spins can give them huge win but that doesn't like that because free spins still need luck to win.
They must realize that free spins is just part of the games so we can not have a big expectation to win much money. We don't have to feel jealous with people who can win huge money because we will have our time to win.
If they attract with the free bonuses, they must know that gambling will not give that without spend some money. So they should playing gambling using more and more money but the result will not always as we want.

Although free spins is the advantages for players, they must thinks that free spins is just an attraction to them to continue playing gambling and spends more money. If they knows for that, they will not trying to continue after the free spins is end and they will leave the casino without think to try for more.
It is normal if we feel disappointing when we can not win from free spins but that doesn't mean we can continue our gambling activity and chase the winning because that can make us to lose more. We must remember that free spins is not always gives the money so we should treat as part of have fun.
We can win someday so we don't have to playing slot too hard and use more and more money because we realize that slot game will depend on luck.

Suppose it will be that easy. Once you withdraw your initial money and lose the rest, a gambler will possibly deposit back the initial money. That's most of the case when chasing losses or just wanting to try again.

Back to the topic, I seem to understand other online casino tricks. It's not about the slot games, it's about the online casino itself. Just recently I won x2700 in one of the games of Red Tiger, but before I won that, I lost like 2500 too so, I profited just a little. Right now, I am playing again in different slot providers on the same online Casino and I cannot seem to win any. Everywhere I jump the free spins are not coming out for 100 - 200 rolls and sometimes even longer.
That happened to me 3 times now. Last week I lost a total of 3400 in our currency depositing 200 each in different slot games and then I won it back after 3 days of playing in one game.
So, I don't really believe in RTP for every slot provider. It's about how deep your wallet is so that the RTP of the online casino itself will give it back, maybe less or maybe more.

Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck? Online slot games are designed to make the casino rich that's all.

I think based on my experience there no difference between spins in a normal gamer or in bonus game, you can buy free spin that not actually free in online slot is all based on your luck only maybe the rtp and one or two thing can make different but they designed to make the owner rich. heck if you win just withdraw your initial money  and you to stay play with rest

I will tell you a little about free spins and also the buy free spin feature. Several times I was the one who spammed buy free spins, and do you know what happened? yes on one occasion from all the buy free spins that I did there was no return at all.  
This is an experience that we can take that whatever as long as we are not lucky we will not get a win, even though we try several times. The problem is when I play I immediately buy the feature and until my balance is not enough to buy the available feature. Even when I get free spins repeatedly there is no big win.
Yes, indeed in gambling it will return to the luck that we experience when playing.

This could well be the casino's idea. These guys are thinking 24/7 about how to profit from ordinary gamblers. Moreover, I have encountered online casinos that made the deposit withdrawal window unclear and unusable.
Obviously, casinos do not like when gamblers withdraw money, but they receive commissions from players anyway, so why arrange these unfair games with the interface? I do not understand whether their owners are so greedy, or the design department wants to appear in a better light in front of the management with such ideas.

Yes there is a little difference, but not every time, sometimes the free spins I get really go really bad, and also sometimes when I try to buy a free spin bonus with a capital of $ 20 but the contents in it are not more than $ 5, meaning I lose about $ 15, this incident happens very often regardless of whether you buy it or get it for free through manual spins.
But yes I also agree that there are indeed quite a few who have managed to get a fairly large amount of winnings through free spin bonuses where I have also won maxwin several times.
One thing I will say is that if you feel that you often lose at a type of casino game, or the amount of your losses is much greater than your wins then you should understand that it is very natural considering the casino's advantage and winnings that depend on luck.

In addition, many people think that they can get a big win by getting free spins even though it does not guarantee it either, people who hope for free spins will definitely experience emotions with results that tend to be disappointing as you said with the results that can happen are small or even none at all. Very lucky for those who win big with the free spins they have received, because things like this rarely happen because it still involves luck.
I agree with what you said, luck is indeed the main factor that will determine everything, we cannot get definite results even though we manage to get free spins with a high bet amount. Now unpredictable luck can come at any time, even by placing bets with a low amount. However, people who bet large amounts and get big wins are very lucky people.

I agree with this, regarding slot gambling which is very dependent on luck, therefore the free spins given by the casino are one of the advantages for players in their luck factor, it is very rare for anyone to get a big win even though they have received repeated free spins and that is natural because luck will not come at all times, we just have to maintain our own limits so as not to do it excessively which can cause us big problems.
Someone who cannot accept the results of the free spins is disappointing, they will most likely chase victory by betting again and again or maybe doing the buy spin feature continuously, but that does not guarantee that they can win. The opportunity to win is there but you don't know when it will happen, the free spins you get are not a benchmark for players to get a profitable win, because if you are lucky, even without getting free spins, you can get a profitable win.

Free spins and regular spins might be different when it comes to chances of winning as more of us are used to get little to nothing out of those free spins. But still, it's just an assumption as there are rare instances that players do win big on those bonuses or free spins given by the casino. We must also look into the amount of spins that we do on regular compared to the free spins since it can be a factor as to why we feel like we win more on regular than of free spins as the amount of spins we do are far more higher on regular spins. Still, luck is best determining factor since there proofs that people do win on those bonuses.

I thought this only happen to me because this is exactly my experience with free games too. I have never won something serious with free spin even though I have been offered that many times. Some days I will exhaust my free games without wins only to win with my other bets that I paid for. This make me to feel that maybe it is different algorithm that the casinos use for free bets and for paid bet, although there is no evidence to justify this because there are people who would have won with free bets. It could also be possible that the lack of winning from free bets might be because of the carelessness that follows free bets that is not like that with paid bets.

There is no way to be sure unless we took a look at the code or there were enough players like you that were curious about this answer, and they took the time to pool their results and then draw some conclusions from them, however it would not surprise me if your thoughts are correct and this is just a trap to make players spend more money when playing slots, and in that case maybe it is time for you to try to find another game you may like.

Between people that loses their bonus and people that won, those that lost are more likely to continue gambling than those that won, that is what I think. There is going to be a feeling that they almost had it, for people that lost and this will make them to deposit money to wager for the same games they were playing. The money casino spend on bonus to attract gamblers has more impact than when they run ads for people to get to know about their casinos. People get attracted to free things and want to gain from it therefore they look for free bonuses from casino and go after them. Some people are lucky to win but many others are not lucky and this make them want to win something from the casino but the end up giving the casino more profits from their losses.

Basically I think it's right to say that free spins are not something that guarantees victory, in the end it's still no different from regular spins, victory can come from anywhere and not only from the free spins you get, for example, as experienced by OP where he was annoyed because lately the free spin bonus was really very bad. In the end as you believe that it all comes back to how lucky you are when playing, and I think the free spin bonus is nothing more than something provided by the casino to attract more gamblers, but it should be part of the fun and not put hope in it. We must immediately return to the fact that casino games are a type of probability game that really depends on your luck.