Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck? - page 7.

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Quote from: irsykes on October 26, 2024, 02:43:38 PM

they will not be aware of the comparison of losing and winning that they make themselves if they are still ambitious, only when their life journey there must be a point of condition below making them introspect. gradually it will create wise betting. and all gamblers have their own appeal from the hope of the strategy they make themselves bring their belief that they can get victory, and yes one day there will be victory for themselves

The ambitions will makes them blind of the comparison losing and winning and will not see that they don't have a big chance to win in gambling. They will still chase the win by keeping playing gambling and will not stop gambling even if they can win.

But if we talk about free games in online slot is suck or not, that will depends on your luck. If you don't have luck and lose, you will say that slot games is suck especially if you lose too much money. But if you win from slot games, you will not say slot games is suck even if that is for free spins. That will makes you return to play the other slot games to win but that will still need luck to win.

I do believe that luck can come at any time, but we don't know when it will come. Playing slots all day will definitely give us a big win at some point because of the slot game algorithm. But winning once can still be said to be a minus, considering the length of time playing and the comparison of wins and losses that we don't understand.

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Quote from: Raflesia on October 29, 2024, 04:23:40 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 25, 2024, 12:02:31 PM

yes, that's true, most of the people will bet expecting a good outcome and usually ignoring the risks
few are the ones who don't care about money at all and will simply play for the sake of playing, not even tracking, almost drugged and totally careless
you know what I mean?

Indeed, it is a common occurrence, now if compared to people who gamble without expecting it tends to be smaller than those who put their hopes on gambling, it is not strange that many continue to gamble even though they have experienced consecutive defeats, some even win until they lose a lot of money until they have no money left to survive. The real risk is a definite thing but many people ignore it, this is the problem caused by only thinking about winning.

A person who has or puts great hopes on gambling usually will not consider the actions they take even though they are aware that what they are going to do is risky but because of this hope, it is what drives players to continue gambling.

Not really that precise because if we do really tend to look at also is that even newer gamblers who do have those intents that they are really just that doing for fun but still they are really that bad when it comes to bankroll management. They could also spend out like there's no tomorrow on this kind of potential situation when you are really just that starting up on dealing up with gambling.

Do they really that being manipulated for the sake of winning up the game? Its not proven out but most of the time house do always win at the end on which having these kind of wagering requirements of
these casinos will really be having that huge advantage towards gamblers and thats why they do really end up on getting busted in the very end. This is why its really that important that you should really
be that not making yourself be greedy on the moment that you do able to make yourself greedy on the process.

Free games does mean that it is really that free of charge or even those bonuses but of course they wont really be giving out money that easily. There's those
requirements on which you would really be needing up to complete on before you could make a withdrawal.

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I use to not believe in this one, but I have many experience where I'm really unlucky when I gamble using free bets or other promotional reward. I rarely lucky, most of the time I lose. It's different when I gamble using real money, sometime I lose and sometime I win.

My speculation is, the providers are using different algorithm when the gambler gamble with real money and bonus money.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 28, 2024, 10:30:59 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on October 23, 2024, 12:00:38 PM

On the moment that you do play gambling then you should really be wary about on the risks involved and be careful on trying out to control your emotions because this is where
people do usually mess up their lives because of having that wrong assumption on which it would really be leading up into that desperation on which this is really that something
which is really that dangerous.

There is no doubt about it, for me the main thing before playing each game in a casino is to allocate the money that I am willing to lose, if I lose everything, I do not bet more, that has worked for me for a long time, even the emotions are controlled in an impressive way, however, what I do in slot games is use it for therapeutic purposes, I only assign 5usd and from there what I do is play and play with the minimum, if I win it seems excellent to me, but if I lose I have not lost anything, on the contrary, this game makes me feel good and I see it as a service, like going to the movies, or going to eat a pizza, because it ends but I am left with the taste, and that helps me de-stress.

how much is that for you? like 1-2% of your total wealth or even total salary?
or more?

I think that one who's betting more than 2% is probably not thinking clearly and not fully grasping math

nice that you enjoy slots, I know people who get stressed out with it...

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 25, 2024, 12:02:31 PM

yes, that's true, most of the people will bet expecting a good outcome and usually ignoring the risks
few are the ones who don't care about money at all and will simply play for the sake of playing, not even tracking, almost drugged and totally careless
you know what I mean?

Indeed, it is a common occurrence, now if compared to people who gamble without expecting it tends to be smaller than those who put their hopes on gambling, it is not strange that many continue to gamble even though they have experienced consecutive defeats, some even win until they lose a lot of money until they have no money left to survive. The real risk is a definite thing but many people ignore it, this is the problem caused by only thinking about winning.

A person who has or puts great hopes on gambling usually will not consider the actions they take even though they are aware that what they are going to do is risky but because of this hope, it is what drives players to continue gambling.

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Quote from: irsykes on October 26, 2024, 02:43:38 PM

they will not be aware of the comparison of losing and winning that they make themselves if they are still ambitious, only when their life journey there must be a point of condition below making them introspect. gradually it will create wise betting. and all gamblers have their own appeal from the hope of the strategy they make themselves bring their belief that they can get victory, and yes one day there will be victory for themselves

The ambitions will makes them blind of the comparison losing and winning and will not see that they don't have a big chance to win in gambling. They will still chase the win by keeping playing gambling and will not stop gambling even if they can win.

But if we talk about free games in online slot is suck or not, that will depends on your luck. If you don't have luck and lose, you will say that slot games is suck especially if you lose too much money. But if you win from slot games, you will not say slot games is suck even if that is for free spins. That will makes you return to play the other slot games to win but that will still need luck to win.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 25, 2024, 12:02:31 PM

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Quote from: bubilas on October 23, 2024, 03:01:22 AM

I think this is somehow connected with the chemistry in our head - endormins and the like. Gambling and Betting are very bright activities that cause intense emotions. And of course - these are not just hobbies, these are games for money that can improve your financial situation. And this is important for everyone. And because of this, other hobbies motivated only by interest fade. And the gambler gets less pleasure from them. Unfortunately, this is exactly how it works.

If you say it can luckily improved, much understandable but being certain about the financial help it can render is not something to be so sure of. If it was, then many people would have become millionaires already but instead, it has turned some people to being addicted and lose some huge amount that they are not supposed to lose. It's not that easy.

I understand that it is difficult, and I did not describe my point of view above, but the point of view of gambling addicts. Their thinking is very positive about gambling, and full of optimism. In fact, controlled types of gambling, such as poker, are incredibly difficult. It is not enough to be a good analyst and psychologist, you also need to play at several tables to increase your chances of earning.

yes, that's true, most of the people will bet expecting a good outcome and usually ignoring the risks
few are the ones who don't care about money at all and will simply play for the sake of playing, not even tracking, almost drugged and totally careless
you know what I mean?

Yes, I have heard about those who, in addition to alcohol or something even worse, also like to start gambling at this moment. Of course, this is a very careless activity. This is a sure way to destroy your deposit in a very short time, to lose money that was earned for a long time. Of course, I am strongly against such gambling or betting because this is chaos and not a conscious game.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 25, 2024, 11:42:41 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 25, 2024, 07:53:58 AM

Basically it is very important for a gambler to have the right knowledge and understanding regarding what and how gambling really is, because once you take a wrong step then over time you will continue to be approached by various setbacks.

It will cost a gambler nothing to acquire such good gambling knowledge but they are usually ignorant and neglect all signs of warning when they are losing or when the casino wants to employ some strategy that can make them feel so eager to play more.

There are many ways such as seeing how professional and also understanding all the advice from more experienced people, but if we rely on that alone we will not be able to really have better knowledge because knowledge can be understood when we have all the individual experiences and those experiences are obtained when we make every bet, this is clearly the payment for what we get such as knowledge and experience that may be very useful for us in the long run.
For example, if someone has had lot of experience in slot games and has had many defeats, then they will be able to think and assume how the real slot game works and that way they will be able to make good decisions and considerations every time they play in gambling.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on October 23, 2024, 12:00:38 PM

On the moment that you do play gambling then you should really be wary about on the risks involved and be careful on trying out to control your emotions because this is where
people do usually mess up their lives because of having that wrong assumption on which it would really be leading up into that desperation on which this is really that something
which is really that dangerous.

There is no doubt about it, for me the main thing before playing each game in a casino is to allocate the money that I am willing to lose, if I lose everything, I do not bet more, that has worked for me for a long time, even the emotions are controlled in an impressive way, however, what I do in slot games is use it for therapeutic purposes, I only assign 5usd and from there what I do is play and play with the minimum, if I win it seems excellent to me, but if I lose I have not lost anything, on the contrary, this game makes me feel good and I see it as a service, like going to the movies, or going to eat a pizza, because it ends but I am left with the taste, and that helps me de-stress.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 24, 2024, 07:18:12 AM

Quote from: irsykes on October 23, 2024, 01:36:50 PM

Quote from: the rise on October 23, 2024, 01:10:18 PM

It seems like yes, although it is not entirely true, but most of the free spins that are obtained for free only cause irritation, and that is what often encourages us to buy free spins, without us realizing we are betting to accelerate defeat.

Ambitious people do not use their finish line management, most of them lose quickly. If are not in a hurry in the game, it might be a different story. Before playing, start betting by allocating the amount of money that think can recover. I often see people gambling with little money but their desire is big in the form of winning. But they forget about management by calculating carelessly, they only bet with different bets when hope starts to disappear.

Those people will not think more about buying free spins because they becomes too ambitious to winning the games. They should already know that gambling games will not gives them the winning too often but they can lose their money at once. They don't have to buy free spins to increase their chance to win because that will depends on their luck.

They must realize that playing gambling is no need to use too big money especially increase the bet amount because they don't know when they will win. So we should accept the reality that gambling is design to have fun and not for helping us to make money.

they will not be aware of the comparison of losing and winning that they make themselves if they are still ambitious, only when their life journey there must be a point of condition below making them introspect. gradually it will create wise betting. and all gamblers have their own appeal from the hope of the strategy they make themselves bring their belief that they can get victory, and yes one day there will be victory for themselves

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 25, 2024, 11:42:41 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 25, 2024, 07:53:58 AM

Basically it is very important for a gambler to have the right knowledge and understanding regarding what and how gambling really is, because once you take a wrong step then over time you will continue to be approached by various setbacks.

It will cost a gambler nothing to acquire such good gambling knowledge but they are usually ignorant and neglect all signs of warning when they are losing or when the casino wants to employ some strategy that can make them feel so eager to play more.

Yes, it means that there are still many ways to get at least basic knowledge about what and how gambling really is without having to spend money through losing scenarios or paid educational channels, they can get it through internet services that we often use in general.
But in reality, very few of them pay attention to this, and I am very sure that one of the reasons why they ignore it is because from the beginning they are too focused on the winning opportunities provided by the casino, and can also be influenced by other things such as big wins that have been achieved by other people which indirectly creates motivation that makes them even more excited.

The point is to always use your rational mindset when you find something new, especially if you see that something tempting seems too easy to get, and you must also always maintain the thought that there are no significant results with just a little effort, this action can minimize misunderstandings.

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Quote from: bubilas on October 25, 2024, 06:05:52 AM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 24, 2024, 09:30:43 AM

Quote from: bubilas on October 23, 2024, 03:01:22 AM

I think this is somehow connected with the chemistry in our head - endormins and the like. Gambling and Betting are very bright activities that cause intense emotions. And of course - these are not just hobbies, these are games for money that can improve your financial situation. And this is important for everyone. And because of this, other hobbies motivated only by interest fade. And the gambler gets less pleasure from them. Unfortunately, this is exactly how it works.

If you say it can luckily improved, much understandable but being certain about the financial help it can render is not something to be so sure of. If it was, then many people would have become millionaires already but instead, it has turned some people to being addicted and lose some huge amount that they are not supposed to lose. It's not that easy.

I understand that it is difficult, and I did not describe my point of view above, but the point of view of gambling addicts. Their thinking is very positive about gambling, and full of optimism. In fact, controlled types of gambling, such as poker, are incredibly difficult. It is not enough to be a good analyst and psychologist, you also need to play at several tables to increase your chances of earning.

yes, that's true, most of the people will bet expecting a good outcome and usually ignoring the risks
few are the ones who don't care about money at all and will simply play for the sake of playing, not even tracking, almost drugged and totally careless
you know what I mean?

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 25, 2024, 07:53:58 AM

Basically it is very important for a gambler to have the right knowledge and understanding regarding what and how gambling really is, because once you take a wrong step then over time you will continue to be approached by various setbacks.

It will cost a gambler nothing to acquire such good gambling knowledge but they are usually ignorant and neglect all signs of warning when they are losing or when the casino wants to employ some strategy that can make them feel so eager to play more.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 24, 2024, 09:30:43 AM

Quote from: bubilas on October 23, 2024, 03:01:22 AM

I think this is somehow connected with the chemistry in our head - endormins and the like. Gambling and Betting are very bright activities that cause intense emotions. And of course - these are not just hobbies, these are games for money that can improve your financial situation. And this is important for everyone. And because of this, other hobbies motivated only by interest fade. And the gambler gets less pleasure from them. Unfortunately, this is exactly how it works.

If you say it can luckily improved, much understandable but being certain about the financial help it can render is not something to be so sure of. If it was, then many people would have become millionaires already but instead, it has turned some people to being addicted and lose some huge amount that they are not supposed to lose. It's not that easy.

Yes and I think having the belief that gambling can always give you victory however it will always be the wrong perspective and thinking, because it is contrary to the fact that gambling is an activity that can never be predicted at any time.
And also as you said that it makes sense to say that if gambling could really always give gamblers victory then surely many gamblers would have become millionaires, but in fact what happened was the opposite, most of them actually experienced various setbacks.
Basically it is very important for a gambler to have the right knowledge and understanding regarding what and how gambling really is, because once you take a wrong step then over time you will continue to be approached by various setbacks.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 24, 2024, 09:30:43 AM

Quote from: bubilas on October 23, 2024, 03:01:22 AM

I think this is somehow connected with the chemistry in our head - endormins and the like. Gambling and Betting are very bright activities that cause intense emotions. And of course - these are not just hobbies, these are games for money that can improve your financial situation. And this is important for everyone. And because of this, other hobbies motivated only by interest fade. And the gambler gets less pleasure from them. Unfortunately, this is exactly how it works.

If you say it can luckily improved, much understandable but being certain about the financial help it can render is not something to be so sure of. If it was, then many people would have become millionaires already but instead, it has turned some people to being addicted and lose some huge amount that they are not supposed to lose. It's not that easy.

I understand that it is difficult, and I did not describe my point of view above, but the point of view of gambling addicts. Their thinking is very positive about gambling, and full of optimism. In fact, controlled types of gambling, such as poker, are incredibly difficult. It is not enough to be a good analyst and psychologist, you also need to play at several tables to increase your chances of earning.

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Quote from: bubilas on October 24, 2024, 02:03:44 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 23, 2024, 11:36:47 AM

oh, this is for sure, have you read "the molecule of more"? It's about dopamine, that's on my reading list
sythetizing it is our main driver of motivation and the reason why we do many of the things we do
when you raise your dopamine baseline too much other activities become way less interesting, as you mentioned

Sorry, but I haven't read it. But it sounds interesting.
And this correlates with the fact that many problem gamblers in their interviews and articles admit that in the end they don't enjoy money from gambling.
Money for them becomes only an intermediate stage before new future games. For such gamblers, the greatest moment of pleasure is when they find money for a new gambling pastime. Anticipation of new games. And as I understand it, the substance that is produced in this case is the ultimate goal of the problem gambler.

no worries
I haven't read it yet either but it's on my reading list and I've heard some people talking about it on podcasts

it's a crazy situation, isn't it?
it reminds me a little bit about this teenager that built a drug empire on the dark web and didn't even used the money, he just enjoyed seeing the number go up

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Quote from: bubilas on October 23, 2024, 03:01:22 AM

I think this is somehow connected with the chemistry in our head - endormins and the like. Gambling and Betting are very bright activities that cause intense emotions. And of course - these are not just hobbies, these are games for money that can improve your financial situation. And this is important for everyone. And because of this, other hobbies motivated only by interest fade. And the gambler gets less pleasure from them. Unfortunately, this is exactly how it works.

If you say it can luckily improved, much understandable but being certain about the financial help it can render is not something to be so sure of. If it was, then many people would have become millionaires already but instead, it has turned some people to being addicted and lose some huge amount that they are not supposed to lose. It's not that easy.

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Quote from: irsykes on October 23, 2024, 01:36:50 PM

Quote from: the rise on October 23, 2024, 01:10:18 PM

It seems like yes, although it is not entirely true, but most of the free spins that are obtained for free only cause irritation, and that is what often encourages us to buy free spins, without us realizing we are betting to accelerate defeat.

Ambitious people do not use their finish line management, most of them lose quickly. If are not in a hurry in the game, it might be a different story. Before playing, start betting by allocating the amount of money that think can recover. I often see people gambling with little money but their desire is big in the form of winning. But they forget about management by calculating carelessly, they only bet with different bets when hope starts to disappear.

Those people will not think more about buying free spins because they becomes too ambitious to winning the games. They should already know that gambling games will not gives them the winning too often but they can lose their money at once. They don't have to buy free spins to increase their chance to win because that will depends on their luck.

They must realize that playing gambling is no need to use too big money especially increase the bet amount because they don't know when they will win. So we should accept the reality that gambling is design to have fun and not for helping us to make money.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 23, 2024, 11:36:47 AM

oh, this is for sure, have you read "the molecule of more"? It's about dopamine, that's on my reading list
sythetizing it is our main driver of motivation and the reason why we do many of the things we do
when you raise your dopamine baseline too much other activities become way less interesting, as you mentioned

Sorry, but I haven't read it. But it sounds interesting.
And this correlates with the fact that many problem gamblers in their interviews and articles admit that in the end they don't enjoy money from gambling.
Money for them becomes only an intermediate stage before new future games. For such gamblers, the greatest moment of pleasure is when they find money for a new gambling pastime. Anticipation of new games. And as I understand it, the substance that is produced in this case is the ultimate goal of the problem gambler.

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 25, 2024, 08:48:40 AM

Hi fellow degens. This has always been in my mind for the past couple of months and I can't get a definitive answer to satisfy my curiosity.

I have been playing online slot games for a few years now, mostly from Pragmatic Games and Evolution. One thing I noticed is that they rarely give out free games (if you're not going to use the buy bonus feature), and sometimes it may take you up to 200 spins before you get a free game which will only give shit rewards after all the spins are exhausted. This got me thinking, are those free games/spins really designed to be shit compared to the normal spin feature which, surprisingly, gives me decent profit during my sessions? If it is, then I think using the buy bonus feature is a trap to lure people into losing their money faster to the casino.

For a while, I thought the free games feature is better considering that multipliers are added to the factoring of wins at the end of each spin, but on my observation, I am getting wins in a high RTP game with normal spins rather than the bonus games feature.

Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

In my experience there are generally two different types of freebie games that casinos offer. The first are specifically designed with free games only in mind - whether that's predict several outcomes to unlock a free bet, or get a few chances every day that might add up to a bigger chance to win at the end of the month (like uncovering a certain amount of squares on a grid that relates to prizes). Then there are the regular casino games, which might specifically have a higher or lower RTP depending on how generous the casinos are feeling towards their players. These are basically regular play slots where you have a chance to win at the standard rate and get say 5 free spins.

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