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Quote from: irsykes on November 04, 2024, 05:08:57 PM

big disappointment because a very heavy wait must accept the situation with a broken mentality. there is no more way just by letting our money disappear by returning to the beginning if. I always see people lose big from slot games, they get great pressure of anger making themselves born into criminals and that is not good

But disappointment and also mental problems are rare, they will not care about all the defeats and they will continue to pursue them, this is just matter of mindset because gambler has different thoughts from every condition they experience, defeat does not mean that someone will stop and give up.
Look there are problems with crime and also debts that accumulate due to gambling, especially people who are crazy about various casino games including slots, people in the country I live in have many problems like this, even on average they are young people, but they don't stop and are willing to do anything to continue their hobby.

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Quote from: irsykes on November 04, 2024, 09:59:13 AM

waiting is indeed very tiring which ends in disappointment if there is no certainty, and switching to other things trying new things maybe luck can be in another place like changing gambling from slots to sports betting. because we don't know we have to be fully aware of our adventures we have to test which one will make us happy. every difficulty there must be ease behind all that, it's just our attitude when betting wisely

It is true because it is not just nonsense because I feel that, whatever the game is even though switching to a game from slots to betting for sports then what happens is that the defeat will be obtained not victory, maybe only occasionally our rounds are given a victory to lure us to deposit money and when we have deposited money that's where we will continue to get defeats, because everything has been designed as well as possible by the bookies or their admins, so no matter how smart we are in playing and placing it on a gambling site that is truly fair, we rarely find slot gambling that really gives big wins, on the contrary we will continue to be drained by it.

There is no sure way to win in gambling, when players end up losing and they think they can win if they change games, it does not guarantee anything because in gambling there are two strong things that cannot be changed, the first is the player's chances of winning are smaller than the dealer or host. No matter how smart the player is in gambling, he cannot win because the dealer has full control that determines whether the player can go home with a win or a loss. The second is that no one knows when they will win, so only luck will determine it, but even so, it is not recommended for us to continue gambling, let alone hope for luck, putting high hopes on gambling is the same as a spice to become addicted to gambling and it is difficult to get out of it.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on November 04, 2024, 10:26:33 AM

Free spins mostly won't give you significant amount of winnings. Unless, you accumulated tons of free spins and from those chances, you will get higher probability of winning big. Otherwise, don't expect that you will hit big from free spins. And besides, slots is based on luck. So should not in any way give you a guarantee of big winnings.

that's right, I agree with you about not all free spins will end or give big results, because in this slot-based game, luck plays a big role in making players win big. Like what I experienced last night, at first I was hanging out and my friend came who not long after he sat doing slot-based gambling, he lost some of his bets and put his money back in to try his luck again but there were no different results still ended in defeat, and immediately he told me there was an update in his betting system that made me interested in trying it, as a result I allocated my money and gambled, not long after I made a bet in the manual round I managed to get a big multiplier, with the amount I had earned of $ 1 and assisted by the big multiplier I got it surprised me, also after that I got a free spin but the result was lower than the previous manual spin, even though I hoped there would be another big multiplier in the free spin.

With the incident that I experienced, there is no clear benchmark at what time we can get a big win, in a free spin or in a manual spin it can happen if we are lucky.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on November 04, 2024, 10:11:04 AM

Quote from: irsykes on November 04, 2024, 09:59:13 AM

waiting is indeed very tiring which ends in disappointment if there is no certainty, and switching to other things trying new things maybe luck can be in another place like changing gambling from slots to sports betting. because we don't know we have to be fully aware of our adventures we have to test which one will make us happy. every difficulty there must be ease behind all that, it's just our attitude when betting wisely

It is true because it is not just nonsense because I feel that, whatever the game is even though switching to a game from slots to betting for sports then what happens is that the defeat will be obtained not victory, maybe only occasionally our rounds are given a victory to lure us to deposit money and when we have deposited money that's where we will continue to get defeats, because everything has been designed as well as possible by the bookies or their admins, so no matter how smart we are in playing and placing it on a gambling site that is truly fair, we rarely find slot gambling that really gives big wins, on the contrary we will continue to be drained by it.

big disappointment because a very heavy wait must accept the situation with a broken mentality. there is no more way just by letting our money disappear by returning to the beginning if. I always see people lose big from slot games, they get great pressure of anger making themselves born into criminals and that is not good

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For example, if someone has had lot of experience in slot games and has had many defeats, then they will be able to think and assume how the real slot game works and that way they will be able to make good decisions and considerations every time they play in gambling.

Yea that true for some person but not the same for everyone. Despite being experienced in the game, some people still lose control of themselves when they go to the casino, they will still not be able to manage their bank roll.

Some people just have some sort of problem when it comes to learning; it's just a personal issue they need to tackle, and not just on gambling. If not, one thing that experience does is teach you how to survive when ever you come across something like that. Although circumstances that will affect a decision do happen, it shouldn't be up to the point that someone who is an experienced slot game player will not be able to manage their bankroll.

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Quote from: benalexis12 on November 04, 2024, 11:47:49 AM

The only thing I've noticed about the gimmicks of other casino platforms that give free games or free spins is don't expect too much from the free spins that will be given to us, we will get big winnings there, just remember that's just one of their marketing strategies to attract more players to gamble in their casino, that's the main purpose of that.

To understand how the bonus works we'll see it as the generalized "giving back to the society" customers like to earn bonuses through what takes their money. It adds value to what has been spent in gambling. Thereby, helping the gamblers not to feel that there are losing completely. Immerging as a winner is what matters to gamblers. Just like the so many that bet to feel happy on a lucky day.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on November 04, 2024, 10:26:33 AM

Quote from: bitcampaign on November 04, 2024, 10:11:04 AM

It is true because it is not just nonsense because I feel that, whatever the game is even though switching to a game from slots to betting for sports then what happens is that the defeat will be obtained not victory, maybe only occasionally our rounds are given a victory to lure us to deposit money and when we have deposited money that's where we will continue to get defeats, because everything has been designed as well as possible by the bookies or their admins, so no matter how smart we are in playing and placing it on a gambling site that is truly fair, we rarely find slot gambling that really gives big wins, on the contrary we will continue to be drained by it.

We are talking about luck-based game here so there's no strategy that will truly give us the winning chance every time we bet. It depends on your luck and not because of how well you know this game. The certainty of winning on every bet is still low even if we say, we got some free games. Still, luck is in play if we will gonna win or not.

One of the reasons why casino games are called a type of game that really depends on luck to win is because there is no data or track record that you can see from the game, such as after you lose or win you can only see a summary of the number of wins but will not see anything that makes you win or lose.

And that's also why there is no strategy that can be applied to the game, although for example there are some gamblers who say that they have a strategy but in fact it is nothing more than nonsense, they make strategies based on their own imagination and feelings and not based on data or track record of the game.

Casino games are my favorite type of gambling, I know and understand how it works and how to play almost most of the types of games provided by the casino and I would say that it does not affect the results of the game at all, understanding how the game works cannot be used as a benchmark that you will win..

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The only thing I've noticed about the gimmicks of other casino platforms that give free games or free spins is don't expect too much from the free spins that will be given to us, we will get big winnings there, just remember that's just one of their marketing strategies to attract more players to gamble in their casino, that's the main purpose of that.

It's no different from newbies who deposit at the casino for the first time, what other casinos do is that they will give you 200% of what you deposit with a minimum requirement of at least $100, which when it comes to your balance, it will be $300 in your account that will be created in that casino, where you don't expect to win a large amount or if you try to withdraw it you won't be able to either, instead you have to use it first to play gambling using their platform.

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Quote from: BitcoinTurk on November 01, 2024, 05:39:27 PM

As a big fun of Sugar Rush, Gates of Olympus and Sweet Bonanza, I can make comment for Pragmatic games in general. Especially, for last two weeks of my gambling, these three games are giving free spins very common and when I compare last 5 free spins in these three games;

For once, I hit almost x200 winnings with 0.40 Euros (almost 80 euros of winning),
For twice, I hit less than x100 winnings with 0.40 Euros,
For three times, I hit less than x40 winnings with 0.40 Euros as well,

In this scenario, most of the time these free spins are not covering a good winnings to players because hitting a free spin is also not easy in Pragmatic's games. Also, I cannot comment as these free spins are suck because they are programmed for spending more time on the games (kind of extension of game with no extra deposit). I think these free spins are programmed for earning more during play and spend these earnings as well in the same game because if I deposit 40 Euros and hit free spins while 15 Euros left, I hit a win of more or less 25 Euros in general. So, in that case I cannot move up or down as my starting balance and continue to spend these earnings on the game.

as I supposed, they use it to keep you playing too
like a hook

do you think winnings would vary a lot if you used bigger bets instead of 0.4 euros per bet only?

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Quote from: bitcampaign on November 04, 2024, 10:11:04 AM

It is true because it is not just nonsense because I feel that, whatever the game is even though switching to a game from slots to betting for sports then what happens is that the defeat will be obtained not victory, maybe only occasionally our rounds are given a victory to lure us to deposit money and when we have deposited money that's where we will continue to get defeats, because everything has been designed as well as possible by the bookies or their admins, so no matter how smart we are in playing and placing it on a gambling site that is truly fair, we rarely find slot gambling that really gives big wins, on the contrary we will continue to be drained by it.

We are talking about luck-based game here so there's no strategy that will truly give us the winning chance every time we bet. It depends on your luck and not because of how well you know this game. The certainty of winning on every bet is still low even if we say, we got some free games. Still, luck is in play if we will gonna win or not.

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Quote from: irsykes on October 30, 2024, 04:38:10 AM

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.

Free spins mostly won't give you significant amount of winnings. Unless, you accumulated tons of free spins and from those chances, you will get higher probability of winning big. Otherwise, don't expect that you will hit big from free spins. And besides, slots is based on luck. So should not in any way give you a guarantee of big winnings.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on November 04, 2024, 10:11:04 AM

Quote from: irsykes on November 04, 2024, 09:59:13 AM

waiting is indeed very tiring which ends in disappointment if there is no certainty, and switching to other things trying new things maybe luck can be in another place like changing gambling from slots to sports betting. because we don't know we have to be fully aware of our adventures we have to test which one will make us happy. every difficulty there must be ease behind all that, it's just our attitude when betting wisely

It is true because it is not just nonsense because I feel that, whatever the game is even though switching to a game from slots to betting for sports then what happens is that the defeat will be obtained not victory, maybe only occasionally our rounds are given a victory to lure us to deposit money and when we have deposited money that's where we will continue to get defeats, because everything has been designed as well as possible by the bookies or their admins, so no matter how smart we are in playing and placing it on a gambling site that is truly fair, we rarely find slot gambling that really gives big wins, on the contrary we will continue to be drained by it.

Most lose, that alright and very true, but it's completely a lie or untrue to conclude that we can't find a slot game that payed hugely, as a matter of fact, someone on this forum had at a time won around $140,000 from a slot game while he was playing with a $5000 bonus that was awarded to him, the casino involved was Bitcasino, but unfortunately, I can no longer remember the username of the user who won this amount.

It is very possible to win a huge amount of money from slot games, but the issue is that its totally dependent on how lucky the gambler is, but I do agree that playing slot games for an very long and extended years will end to loses over all.
So the best way to avoid this is, quit playing Slot games immediately you hit a huge winning and only play sports betting from time to time.

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Quote from: irsykes on November 04, 2024, 09:59:13 AM

waiting is indeed very tiring which ends in disappointment if there is no certainty, and switching to other things trying new things maybe luck can be in another place like changing gambling from slots to sports betting. because we don't know we have to be fully aware of our adventures we have to test which one will make us happy. every difficulty there must be ease behind all that, it's just our attitude when betting wisely

It is true because it is not just nonsense because I feel that, whatever the game is even though switching to a game from slots to betting for sports then what happens is that the defeat will be obtained not victory, maybe only occasionally our rounds are given a victory to lure us to deposit money and when we have deposited money that's where we will continue to get defeats, because everything has been designed as well as possible by the bookies or their admins, so no matter how smart we are in playing and placing it on a gambling site that is truly fair, we rarely find slot gambling that really gives big wins, on the contrary we will continue to be drained by it.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on November 03, 2024, 02:44:38 PM

Quote from: irsykes on November 03, 2024, 11:35:51 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 30, 2024, 11:27:54 PM

Quote from: irsykes on October 30, 2024, 04:38:10 AM

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.

sometimes we will feel tired and think because of the hopes that have not been achieved, but all that seems our struggle is in vain because we have not found a bright spot. and no longer expect a big win but just entertainment, with as we know making experience. the lowest position of gamblers who have not won the results, but only lose money logically will flow that all this is my own behavior that makes it destroyed.

What makes it that feel tiring or something that gives out that not good feeling it is really just that because we are really that expecting something positive into it on which on the moment that you've been currently experiencing the opposite thing then this is where we have those kind of emotions on getting tired nor even getting pissed because we arent that expecting that it will really be on this way.

Talking about free games on which it will be understandable that they will really be setting out those wagering requirements because they cant really just give out some free money without having those plans or intents behind those free things. Put up into your mind that there's no such thing about free mean into this world and there's always a come up reason on why they are really that offering it on which we know that this is really that something that could hook up someone to make out some deposit after they've been dealing out with some free spins or games.

Wagering requirement on which it makes do really that sucks on this aspect because there's no way that you could easily go out with those terms.

waiting is indeed very tiring which ends in disappointment if there is no certainty, and switching to other things trying new things maybe luck can be in another place like changing gambling from slots to sports betting. because we don't know we have to be fully aware of our adventures we have to test which one will make us happy. every difficulty there must be ease behind all that, it's just our attitude when betting wisely

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Quote from: Wakate on October 30, 2024, 03:00:40 PM

What do we actually expects from free money? It's not meant to have value and that is why we need to try harder for us to get lucky to win using free bets or bonus.

"try harder to get lucky on winning through free bets and bonuses"? I mean, who the hell depends on such stakes to win wager in the first place? I don't even remember the last time I'd try to follow a casinos terms and policies on getting a bonus. IMHO, such first time bonuses or spin-to-win prizes don't even reveal tangible wins.

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Everything boils down to the psychological approach when we hear about free stuffs. It is true that gamblers are easily attracted to free money and bets and this is why we kept seeing this approach used by different casinos.

ofcourse anyone would wanna avail themselves through a free bonus... It's a strategy to attract a good level of traffic - especially if one or two people have attested to how well the casinos treat first timers. Also, for some set of people, it's always an opportunity to loot....well, that doesn't end well with them.
I don't really wanna get too deep with enrolling in casino games.. it's not fair enough IMO, and I can't place my money on it.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on November 01, 2024, 02:09:16 PM

totally depends on the game
but regarding slots, yes, experience and skill won't even count, I mean, what is the skill you need to push a button like that and roll?
maybe one can argue that you need skill to select bet sizing?
still, luck will play a much major role than anything else.

That's right.

You only have to press that roll and it will go on its own. I think when people tells about experience, it's about how you take the risk and the amount of bankroll that you are ready to gamble with.

So, with that it tells us about the experience of how they're able to lose a lot and then probably recover some.

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Quote from: irsykes on October 30, 2024, 04:38:10 AM

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.

sometimes we will feel tired and think because of the hopes that have not been achieved, but all that seems our struggle is in vain because we have not found a bright spot. and no longer expect a big win but just entertainment, with as we know making experience. the lowest position of gamblers who have not won the results, but only lose money logically will flow that all this is my own behavior that makes it destroyed.

What makes it that feel tiring or something that gives out that not good feeling it is really just that because we are really that expecting something positive into it on which on the moment that you've been currently experiencing the opposite thing then this is where we have those kind of emotions on getting tired nor even getting pissed because we arent that expecting that it will really be on this way.

Talking about free games on which it will be understandable that they will really be setting out those wagering requirements because they cant really just give out some free money without having those plans or intents behind those free things. Put up into your mind that there's no such thing about free mean into this world and there's always a come up reason on why they are really that offering it on which we know that this is really that something that could hook up someone to make out some deposit after they've been dealing out with some free spins or games.

Wagering requirement on which it makes do really that sucks on this aspect because there's no way that you could easily go out with those terms.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 30, 2024, 11:27:54 PM

Quote from: irsykes on October 30, 2024, 04:38:10 AM

just previous experience. now i rarely play slots. prefer to bet on sports that i think are flexible.
slot game fans
average because of great curiosity and high expectations make people play without uncontrolled money management. that's playing slots that can be obtained without the person realizing it. destroyed without knowing the time

I still playing slot game occasionally. I know that playing slot too often can makes me too deeper in slot and hard to get out because I have been there before. But I don't have a high expectation from free spins because that can not guarantee me to win big money. I can only win big money from free spins in slot game when I have my luck comes in the right time. Without that, I only waste my money buy bonus and hopes that I can win big multiplier. It is very difficult for me so it is better I play for some time and quit gambling after feelings enough to play.

sometimes we will feel tired and think because of the hopes that have not been achieved, but all that seems our struggle is in vain because we have not found a bright spot. and no longer expect a big win but just entertainment, with as we know making experience. the lowest position of gamblers who have not won the results, but only lose money logically will flow that all this is my own behavior that makes it destroyed.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on November 01, 2024, 02:09:16 PM

totally depends on the game
but regarding slots, yes, experience and skill won't even count, I mean, what is the skill you need to push a button like that and roll?
maybe one can argue that you need skill to select bet sizing?
still, luck will play a much major role than anything else.

It's only in some of the game that you can apply strategy but yet if it's not your lucky day, you will not win. I don't think it's difficult to believe that gambling it's just an activity of luck, that's why it's gambling.

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Quote from: Zadicar on November 01, 2024, 04:55:00 PM

Actually applying any strategies on playing slots is somewhat useless or doesnt have any sense. There's no way that you could be able to have that kind of advantage specially
on a game where it is really that considered to be pure luck based and there's no way that you could be able to affect out your winning rate on just applying those strategies.

Bare in mind that those are coded on which it is really that goes in line with casinos advantage. You could really be able to expect that the results or outcome will really be going in line on what we have choose.
If you are that extremely lucky then you might pull out some significant win but most of the time on which people will really be that on the losers side and this isnt something shocking anymore.
If gambling business isnt profitable into its owners then we wont really be seeing tons of sites around.

People who win by previously implementing a strategy at the beginning of their gambling will think that their win was obtained because of the strategy they used, because when gamblers think or believe in a strategy that can make them win, then the player can be said to be addicted. In fact, if they continue to gamble by betting again when they have won and using the strategy again at the beginning, it is impossible for them to win again, people like this tend to forget the luck factor which actually plays a bigger role than the strategy they believe in.
You are right, if the casino business is not profitable, then there is no way there are many casino sites circulating, while the reality is that there are so many sites circulating and that is because this business is profitable, because even if someone manages to get a big win, it is a strategy used by the casino to attract more players.

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As a big fun of Sugar Rush, Gates of Olympus and Sweet Bonanza, I can make comment for Pragmatic games in general. Especially, for last two weeks of my gambling, these three games are giving free spins very common and when I compare last 5 free spins in these three games;

For once, I hit almost x200 winnings with 0.40 Euros (almost 80 euros of winning),
For twice, I hit less than x100 winnings with 0.40 Euros,
For three times, I hit less than x40 winnings with 0.40 Euros as well,

In this scenario, most of the time these free spins are not covering a good winnings to players because hitting a free spin is also not easy in Pragmatic's games. Also, I cannot comment as these free spins are suck because they are programmed for spending more time on the games (kind of extension of game with no extra deposit). I think these free spins are programmed for earning more during play and spend these earnings as well in the same game because if I deposit 40 Euros and hit free spins while 15 Euros left, I hit a win of more or less 25 Euros in general. So, in that case I cannot move up or down as my starting balance and continue to spend these earnings on the game.

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