Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 6. (Read 6644 times)

Addiction and success have quite big differences in meaning and because gambling relies more on luck, it should not be called success. But when active gambling has influenced him not to do other work then addiction is a suitable name for them. Gamblers who have invested time, energy and even money to produce reasonable winnings, then they should not be addicted because they are consciously able to handle gambling quite well.

It is irrelevant to attribute success in gambling to a class of people who are addicted. Addicted people are unable to control their emotions, money and so on, but if they are successful in gambling then they should be quite aware that they are gambling responsibly.

Well, in some ways we might be able to say that these people are professionals gamblers rather than addicts. They might be addicted in a way that before they had gotten to that level where they are now called expert in gambling, they must have been a stage in their life where they did anything to make sure they could gamble. The word addiction can been seen in so many aspects but it would be more appropriate to use it when someone can no longer control his gambling habit and gamble without season. A responsible gambler who turned out to be a professional might be because he understood the consequences of going rouge and made sure he stay on the right path.

yes they are gambling addicts, how can he be successful at gambling if he doesn't gamble with the methods and skills he has, anything he will do to win at gambling, in my opinion he is an addict

this ends up in a question the topic raised before, so a successful gambler wouldn't be seen as an addict even if he or she is addicted?
I mean, addiction has more layers in life than only the outcome of our actions, it has to do on how something affects our life in many aspects

financially but also relationships, health, so forth and so on

I agree with that, because many of those who gamble frequently only experience a lot of losses and if they live side by side with gambling then it is a stupid choice. because I don't believe that gambling can bring much profit, it is almost impossible to happen, in my opinion those whose lives depend on gambling, their lives will not be peaceful because all they think about is gambling, and thinking about how they can continue gambling. So it's likely that they will do anything that can bring in money and that money will be used for gambling.

In my opinion, if they gamble regularly it will only complicate their own lives in the future, especially financially, even though there are successful gamblers, but in my opinion that is not a motivation, and in my opinion, successful gamblers depend on their own process of gambling, because it is possible of them gamble only once but with luck they can be successful, but this seems to happen very rarely.

Yeah, you're right as there are people that are lucky at their very start of playing gambling even me I developed interest in gambling because I got winning just at my first trial and it was at a time when I needed money to sort something out so it really helped me a lot though after the winning, I incurred losses in subsequent trials. I've also witnessed someone who was new into gambling and afterwards was winning conspicuously so it's just pure definition of luck and nothing more.


Getting frequent winnings doesn't really mean you need to be addicted as some persons doesn't even play all the time due to some other works they're involved in and sometimes those works doesn't even create chance for them to play gamble, even they can stay for days without playing gambling but as soon as the enter the gambling hall to place their bets, they win. So gamblers do record subsequent winnings without getting addicted.

Some people who manage to win really get lucky so they can win a lot with just a small bet. And many other people can't get it because it depends on each person's luck. But that has made many people follow what the winner did so they are willing to use their money to gamble. And when they get deeper into gambling, they become addicted to gambling without being able to win the gambling game. But it is different from successful gamblers because they can control themselves while gambling and win the gambling game. But we also don't know whether they started gambling with a lot of money or whether they didn't have much money and managed to win a lot of money.

Common practice of those people who pretends that they are really good and they always making money but the truth behind is they are
just sharing the numbers of their wins but never to share the numbers of losses.

I agree that there are some gamblers who make money out from their experienced, they managed to take care of their strategy and they'll able to follow the right patterns.

More on how they can take care of their finances and a good control in balancing time and bankroll.

This is one of the major reasons why more people enter into gambling with the conception that, they'll experience more wins than losses.and sometimes the reason we hear more of the wins is because, some persons who successfully wins a gamble might not necessarily have encountered much loses compared to his wins. Some persons play gamble with as low as $0.1 to make a win of $20,000. I have seen this happen countless times, and it still happens to the extent that, most wins are being published in our news paper, due to the high odd of not winning the bet.

It might be the case that they started with more money than what they got out though...

It could be that they would have been able to buy two cars lets say...

People often omit the parts where they lose gambling, and only conveniently share their wins..

The truth remains the truth. Despite your wining or Lossing if you play too much than normal average, you are addicted to gambling. Note it's addiction and not irresponsible, you can be addicted and still plays very responsible. And not all gambling addict are losers or experience loss than winning. I know of several addict that have bought cars and built houses off money from gambling. Addiction is I just a feeling that gets you attracted and would make you want to play all the time. So yes no matter outcome of his betting, let's call a spade, a spade.

Gambling brings a lot of profit for a small amount of money and sometimes a lot of money is completely lost so those who want to lead their life on gambling are very big fools because gambling will never win anyone regularly and in gambling most of the time there is an average loss so how can a person  Loan gambler can run his regular life with money.  A person may be lucky enough to be able to manage his life with gambling money for a period of time or a few months but not for the rest of his life.  And professional gamblers are patient so their losses are less.  So if someone gambles regularly he will become addicted to gambling no matter how professional he is

Successful gamblers spend more time gambling that people would think they're addicted. That's a personal observation and the successful gambler is not meant to bother himself over what people say about him and his habit. Hence, his priority would be gambling at controllable pace, so he'd be able to maintain being a professional than the addict he's called. However, the fault is not on the people, they have their personal reasons for doing all that which consists of not being well informed of the differences between an addict and a successful gambler. The conclusion for non-gamblers is determined on the duration the player spends gambling. It's mainly a difficult thing for non-gamblers to differentiate between successful gamblers and addicts.

But, whoever, has been in the same home with an addict, would figure out that much uniqueness exists between these two gamblers when he finds a successful gambler. The successful players give people reason to see the sweetness of gambling. Their actions uplift gamblers in the eyes of close relatives who are non-gamblers. Some of them make out time to discuss importance of gambling with their loved ones. While an addict would be a pain in the ass of his family, a successful gambler changes the perspective of the people around him. By ensuring that they get whatever they need from him, and he still makes out time to gamble. Running his family proficiently and efficiently with no back logs on the long run. In a nutshell, they should be a personal experience for the non-gamblers to see the differences.

Once you do lose this control then it would be over and this is something that you should really be that mindful on the time that you would really be engaging with gambling on which playing in moderation and in control on which this is the key for you not to make yourself that ended up on disaster or being that addicted. Just like on that topic in regarding about being successful with gambling,
then we do know that the odds or chances for it to happen would really be that low and this is why some gamblers do really like to reach out this particular state on which they could really be able
to make constant winnings in gambling on which we know that it is hard and mostly that nearly too impossible. This is why it would be always best that you should
really be that realistic on whatever things that you do see about on gambling.

Of course, there is nothing more important in gambling than having good self-control because only this can keep you safe and a little avoid the name of significant defeat. The fact is that in gambling you can't do anything to make you win because it's a matter of luck and what you can do is nothing more than applying self-control along with some other precautions to minimize the level of risk.

But unfortunately most gamblers cannot do this because their main focus is only on winning in the sense that they always have to overdo it to chase victory, when in fact victory does not have to be chased because simply put if you are lucky you will also be able to win and the idea of doing a lot of experiments to chase victory is a bad idea that will make you even experience a lot of losses, the point is that you must understand how gambling works along with how victory comes because with that I think you will not dare to overdo it.

If you can make money from your job, you should be happy because you don't spend money to get a salary from your job. You can make money and fulfil your living needs. And if you compare it to gambling, where you have to use money to make money, you won't always be able to win because you will lose. And if your luck is not good, you will experience losses more often, so it will be painful to see all your money run out. That is why only a few people can become successful. Those who cannot be successful will experience failure and lose a lot of money. Perhaps they can win, but it's only temporary because if, from that win, they become greedy, they will experience another loss, which might be even bigger. And that's why, if you want to be successful, you should look for a job and work well so that you can get a promotion from that job to get a promotion which means your salary will also increase.

It depends on each person because some people go to casinos to have fun and don't think about many things. These are the people who will not experience any problems because they can gamble comfortably and can also enjoy their free time. But if they come to the casino to win from the gambling games they play, they may experience disappointment because the results could be different from what they imagined. We also cannot gamble without restrictions because we can lose much money. And even if you also deposit more money, it still won't guarantee you can get the win you want.

Exactly, but the thing can be reduced to that, if you are successful in the game it means that you are making money, that is, if I am at my normal job, which is not a casino job, I don't keep my money because that is what I do well, and I know that in a job the income is fixed and if it is fixed then I only worry about doing things well, in this order of things I will always assume to do things well, on the other hand if I am in a casino where ' I know that my money can be lost with a bad move because things are more delicate, I can't be thinking that since I won once or twice in the casino, I'm going to take it as if it were a fixed income, because I may have many luck, but basically I fear things because of money, for me money is imperative because otherwise how can I measure my success? There is no way, I could say that things can be like this, those who say that success is that they can control themselves, that they play very well, that they know the game, well all they want, but if they lose? that's not what you're looking for.

I see that anything in the casino is good to Always look for a way to win, going to a Casino with a winning mentality is the correct attitude, now those who think like aneriomene I said that they only measure things by what they can do, As far as they know, not that, because that is learned with experience, and that is something that has to be demonstrated all the time, but in my opinion success is with money, if I see that a player all the time Enters a casino and you leave with more money than you enter, that in my opinion is success, it doesn't matter if you are there for 5 minutes, 1 hour, 10 hours, 12 hours, but if you leave with money that is what is required to stay there, for that reason many Gamblers can't stand the casino system because they are not successful, and unfortunately, if you don't have money in the casino , you are nobody , that is what will forever be the premise.

And this is where people do really fail on doing so because to those people who do end up on getting addicted with gambling are to those people who cant really be able to have that kind of control towards themselves
on which it would really be that causing for them to make those actions on which they didnt bothered on rethinking on what are the possible effects that it could give into a certain individual.
When it comes into the talks about successful gamblers are seen as addicts? Somewhat partially true on which we do know that people do have those kind of realizations on the time
that they would really be able to commit out such mistake on which they will really be learning up something basing into those conditions that they are really that into.
Addiction is something can be avoided if you do really just find yourself that responsible towards your gambling actions.

Those are actually pretty good points. You know, I had considered to be impossible for a successful gambler to be also an addicted person, because someone who is addicted to gambling lacks traits which are important for anyone who engaged in gambling, or even other activies which have something to do with risk management, like trading or betting.
However, I had only considered games which are completely dependent on luck and did not have a component of individual skill in them, like poker does. It would be up to us to discuss how compulsiveness and addiction would affect the decision making and analysis skills of a person who likes to partake in poker against other people  in real life.
If we assumed addiction to poker would not directly decrease the proefficiency in it, then there could be a chance a successful gambler to exist and still being addicted to what they do. That is if we assume Poker is gambling, which I personally do.

Technically speaking, whether or not someone is addicted to gambling is independent of whether they are profitable or are making losses.
But in practice, if someone is actually making a living out of gambling (which is almost unheard of unless we consider poker as gambling) that would indicate they are very analytical and can take emotions out of the equation, which, in turn, means they would only bet when/if they think it'll be profitable and have enough discipline to withhold from betting on an impulse. So pretty much opposite traits to what we would see in gambling addicts.