Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 8. (Read 6617 times)

Yeah, sometimes people get addicted very fast.

It's all in the mind, so they might end up in a bad situation after simply winning their first ever bet.

They think they can do it again, and then they lose all their money trying to win more.

That would be nice but the problem is that no matter if that person new to gambling won and got away I think still he would be back at some time so most likely they will become addict as they will think that winning is easy and will keep losing becoming true gamblers.I don't know anyone that has done just that,won big and moved away from gambling and enjoyed life and never looked back.Difficult to do that so we have yet to see one such person.

An addicted gambler thinks differently than someone who uses gambling as entertainment. They tend to want to be in the casino for a long time and don't want to do other things and gamble with their money or borrow money from other people. Those who have become addicted to gambling will not think about anything other than gambling, making them unable to think clearly about what they are doing. They gamble because they feel that only gambling can give them pleasure, so they don't want to do other things even though those other things can also give them pleasure. However, successful gamblers are also different from those who are addicted to gambling because successful gamblers have boundaries in gambling so that they do not experience gambling addiction. Successful gamblers may have a goal of making money, but they do not allow themselves to get too deep into gambling and always limit themselves in trying to make money.

These successful gamblers can use their abilities to make money and know when they should stop and make good use of their winnings. They will not want to chase their winnings if the situation and conditions are no longer possible because they have a lot of experience in playing gambling, so they can prevent losing a lot of money. Successful gamblers always try not to let themselves get into trouble, and with their experience, they can find ways to overcome problems. They also won't want to borrow money to gamble because it won't work for them. His experience says that it is better for them to gamble with their own money rather than borrow money from other people. But each gambler has their own goals and has a way of how they can gamble, although some gamble excessively. However, some gamblers can still control themselves while gambling, so they are the ones who avoid gambling addiction problems.

No matter what everyone says, Addiction has an impact to a person in a negative ways and it requires a strict self discipline in order for a person not to become addicted. As you've said, It affects the financial and psychological health of the player because they will reach a point where they can no longer control their mind, where the spending habits will continue even in the wrong way.

I think a person's understanding of a successful gambler is very much dependent on their own point of view, everyone has different opinions and that means that it doesn't necessarily mean that what you think is right that other people will say the same thing.

I respect your idea of a successful gambler being one who manages to win a large amount of money and then walk away for a long time, but on the other hand I think it's quite difficult to do that, or I mean it's not easy to allow yourself to ignore the tantalizing situation by assuming that it was really luck that came unexpectedly, We can see that most gambling addicts come from the first win, which means they want that kind of win again which eventually cannot ignore gambling activities and even more aggressive in their gambling activities because they want to repeat that kind of win again, that's the reason why it's not easy to ignore the tantalizing situation when you get a big win, if it was easy to do then there would be very few gamblers who are addicted.

From my own point of view, honestly, successful gamblers are those who are able to control all their gambling activities well, such as having a very firm financial planning and management that keeps them fine in the long run, it's not easy to do so and that's why I conclude that successful gamblers are those who are able to control all their gambling activities.

That is a way of seeing things well, for me a person who is addicted is the one who Always loses a lot of money and becomes decapitated and begins to do whatever it takes so that he can be addicted. Addicts are very particula r, they have a way of seeing things in different ways. different, in this case we are people who have always seen that when you do any type of things for money, but there are the players who are addicts, that is a fact, now when a person, as I have said on many occasions, is in a he falls and goes and stays there all day, because he does nothing but play, but every day he leaves with a positive balance, for me he is not an addict, because every day he leaves with a positive balance and does well, Well, it's a lie about looking for money, although it's very strange that it happens, but I don't know in the world there are many people who are special and can do that type of things, I don't know if there is someone like that, maybe with a special talent, But if so, I don't consider him a successful player.

Successful players for me are those who always succeed, players who spend all their money and get into trouble to get money and finance their games. For me , they are players who are addicts, in fact addicted players have many problems, for example debts. In the bank , Debts with your friends , debts with everything, your friends do not want you because they lend money and cannot pay later, this is something that manifests itself and must be lent so that no more is given, in this order of ideas I see it In that way, I understand that those things are the ones that will always be seen as different ways by some people, I respect that, I only give my point of view that may or may not be right, but a person who earns money and does not take a life of debts and problems Because she is not addicted, maybe she really likes coffee and likes to explain the thing about who they are , that's how they want to see it.

You're right mate, I've also witnessed people who are new into gambling that doesn't play all the time but yet they always record winnings. Though there are still gamblers that can testify that ever since they started playing gambling that they've recorded more winnings than losses but that doesn't mean they were addicted before they achieved such level of success as it was basically luck because there are people that has less knowledge about gambling but whenever they walk into gambling hall and select some events they want to gamble on, before you know it they will just record winning whereas you that have a complete knowledge about gambling will be finding it difficult to win despite the fact that you took time to analyze the events before you staked on it.

I would like to rephrase your words a little and change "addiction" to "infatuation".
Nevertheless, in the context of gambling, addiction takes the form of an almost painful condition that becomes dangerous for the financial and psychological health of the player. But if a player is very passionate, then this is great and always pushes him forward through interest and motivation.

I must say that a truly successful player must have at least a slight addiction to the game. Why? Because if he does not have an addiction, then he will not have the motivation to do this business. And motivation is very necessary if the business he is engaged in is, for example, a source of his income. A slight addiction allows you to devote more time to your work. Light dependence allows you to get less tired. And also a slight dependence makes it easier to endure failures and resist tilt.
In the end, you can simply enjoy the game even without money. And it often happens that the game does not bring you any money.

They should be able to realize that if they are confused or don't know much about gambling, they don't need to continue gambling and try to reduce their gambling activities. This is done so that they do not suffer and do not get too deep into gambling. After all, being a successful gambler means not only being able to win at gambling but also being able to control yourself so you don't lose a lot of money from gambling. If they can understand this, they will also not suffer and can still enjoy gambling as it should be. A successful gambler who is able to control himself will not always think about winning but will also be careful in gambling and always try to prevent big losses. They will try to anticipate losing a lot of money and will not be too eager to win, especially if the situation does not allow it.

I see your point and it's true not just a quick knowledge that being pick-up during the first attempt of gambling, but instead, there's a lots of time that being consume to learn the pattern and to make sure that all the emotions will be taken away while playing, newbies needs to understand both the potential and the risk behind.

You can play yes you can whenever you wanted, but learning the right path to avoid addiction and losing lots of money, you needed to follow some hints coming from those experienced gambler who already been on your shoe before they acquire the knowledge that they possess now.

I agree with this.

It's not just a social construct. Addiction is a serious thing that should be tackled whether it may be gambling or other thing. It has a negative effect to someone. It doesn't only take the normalcy routine of a person or even behavior, rather impacts the overall well-being of the person addicted. Often times, it causes negative effects such as not being able to do something without actually gambling in a day. Loss of appetite due to prolong gambling hours, conflict within the household, damaged relationship between friends or even spouse, and even taking a huge toll on the mental and physical health. Hence, when someone is exhibiting the signs of being addicted in gambling, criticisms are being said. This is not to shame, rather to avoid the future problems that may arise. Because being addicted mostly brings more damage to a person than good.

The consumed time before a gambler learns all the experiences he utilizes while gambling plays a vital role. And newbies need to follow same routine before they'll be tagged responsible gamblers like the professionals. However, not all professional gambler is seen as addict in the eyes of many people, due the type of experience they've got in gambling. Staying experience and learning new methods of gambling can keep a gambler above the reasonings of people around him. Such that even if they know of his gambling habit wouldn't call him an addict because of his extensive self-control and social skill which doesn't leave any differentiation between him and non-gamblers. Not all professionals are seen like this, but the queen of comps, Jean Scott, got such skills that made her kids and relations love her for gambling.

sort of agree. This method is like a skilled artist painting one masterpiece and never touching the brush again - capturing the exact moment.

What if gambling became entertainment like going to the movies or eating out? Success changes in this context. No longer is it about money but about the experience. The thrill, suspense, and strategy - its an emotional rollercoaster, right? This view may entail enjoying a hobby rather than addiction.

However, your point regarding losing winnings is important. Enjoying the game and pursuing losses are a delicate balance. This requires self-awareness and control. Responsible gambling may be thrilling. Knowing when to play, when to stop, and enjoying the ride is key.

I guess it all depends on what you call a successful gambler.

In my mind a successful gambler is someone that somehow makes a big win over time or at once, and then they simply quit gambling for good with the win.

So, they are not a gambler anymore, therefore not addicted to it.

Now, if they keep playing then they are addicted, because the most likely scenario is that they will lose their winnings over time.

All experience knowledges not come in one day. For that a gambler suffer a lot. After that a gambler learn without learning without getting knowledge a gambler can't do anything specially in gambling sector. For that reason after learning all of things a gambler called addected. Because it takes a lot of time and it being habit for gamblers without doing gambling they feel boring that's the reason thay gambling for spend their time. After all a gambler confused and they don't want to left that's the reason they don't want to left it.

I'd be really interested on having some data breakdown on earnings/income from gambling addicts
I bet that if you don't consider lotteries as gambling then most addicts will have middle to high income, not low income.
but I could be hallucinating here

what do you all think?

That's right, if they are addicted to gambling, of course there will be many problems that will happen to themselves, especially financial problems, because if they become addicted to gambling of course they will spend a lot of money, consciously or unconsciously that's what they are doing and this is clearly a problem for themselves. when they gamble they will feel it especially when they win, of course they really want this because I also gamble of course I want to win.

Yes, that's right, if you can control yourself, it's no problem, and also with good self-control you might be able to minimize the losses that will occur, because by having good self-control, of course they will not take rash actions or actions that have big risks, such as increasing the amount betting by continuing the game after getting a sizable win and of course profitable but have you ever thought about this? It's rare for people to gamble with good self-control,  I myself have recently been able to gamble with good self-control because I already know that gambling excessively can make me lose a lot of money even in a short period of time. It is unethical if they want the losses that have occurred to be recovered because it seems almost impossible.

It's usually up to the person asking if great gamblers are also addicts. Sure, great gamblers put time, effort, and money into their games, but what makes them different is how these activities change their lives.

Addiction is usually described as harmful behavior that a person can't stop doing and that gets in the way of their daily life and health. Professional gamblers who follow rules, plan ahead, and gamble responsibly may not show the same behaviors as people who are addicted to gambling.

There are many things to think about when looking at the reasons, actions, and general effects of gambling on a person's life. Individuals who gamble responsibly are likely to establish boundaries, show self-control, and see gambling as a fun activity rather than an overwhelming need.

But it's important for people to know themselves and keep an eye on their gaming habits to make sure that winning doesn't ruin their lives. There is a thin line between success and addiction, which shows how important it is to gamble responsibly and get help if you think your gambling is messing up your life.

We never know about that because we also don't know who the successful gamblers are. Maybe there are successful gamblers who are addicts, but there are also successful gamblers who are not addicts because they can take good care of themselves. At the same time, gambling and don't lose control if they see attractive promotions from casinos. Those who are new to the world of gambling and can win at gambling are not yet gambling addicts because they may not have gambled too often. But when they gamble more often and don't pay attention to controlling themselves, that's when they start to become addicted to gambling and maybe they won't realize it. Those who win are lucky compared to other gamblers, so they must be able to control themselves better than others.