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Topic: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher - page 5. (Read 34677 times)
At the risk of sounding like Anonymint's flunkey to Martin Amstrongs Messiah, I guesstimate that most readers here think that they have read more sense in one paragraph of tvbcof's posts on this subject than all the ad nauseam, ceaseless, charlatan, bullshit, vacuity posing as metaphor, spam of a thousand of Anonymints "keep your hands off my stash" pish postings .
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I guessetimate that most readers here think you are a jackass.
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I guessetimate that most readers here think you are a jackass.
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I'm certain of it. This is the 'Politics & Society' board of 'bitcointalk.org' after all. That bothers me not in the least.
Untrue. If it is physically impossible to rubber-hose info out of someone, that will not occur. That's why Snowden didn't bring anything along with him when he went to Russia.
Then they can kill you since you are useless to them, as they did to those who refused to work in the concentration camps under Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc..
Tangentially, the technology for directly tapping the brain is advancing.
I've arranged my defenses to be more against the current criminal class than against state sponsored attacks since the former is much more possible in the short-to-mid term, but these defenses apply to state sponsored attacks as well.
You seem to be confused about who the big time criminals are.
Well, if you have wealth that you scammed or stole, or are you are a criminal due to tax avoidance, then I can see how you would be especially concerned in the here and now. I'm not in that category.
Of course you are. Everyone with wealth is when the State is destitute. You fail to study the repeating pattern of history.
I'm not actually all that worried about extreme abuse and theft by the governments for people in my category because if that were systematic then it wold imply that a large percentage of the population were being abused in a similar manner. That is unsustainable from a political point of view under any likely political system.
Unsustainability doesn't impede the megadeaths that occur before the chaos ends.
But much more likely in the nearer term, I simply expect them to raise taxes and confiscations of wealth above your breaking point.
OTOH, under some sort of a local war-lord quasi-anarchy system like you SC/PC folks dream of, such abuse would be the norm. I just don't believe that there is much chance that we'll ever see that. And if so, I'll be long gone for the short time that it persists.
Warlordism returns during Dark Ages.
I propose actually a Knowledge Age of individual ownership of knowledge (i.e. sovereign in the knowledge economy and virtually untaxable and untraceable to each person's physical identity), where there are no corporations and no warlords. The details were in the following thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-adoption-slowing-coinbase-bitpay-is-enough-to-make-bitcoin-a-fiat-557732
Boo-hoo if Bundy, for instance, loses everything he's got as far as I'm concerned. That's what happens to jackasses.
Jackasses like you. The same ill will can apply to you too. You see how that works. Chaos is what you propose. You think by siding with the status quo of an elite criminal cabal that is enslaving us, that you are more reasonable.
I think you fail to appreciate that the end game that repeats throughout history when we reach the point of government is 75% of GDP is never reasonable.
I guessetimate that most readers here think you are a jackass.
Try reading Matthew 7.
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- ...
Ya, ya, that old chestnut. I've heard it 1000 times (and once or twice on this very thread as I recall.) Yawn.
They 'came for me' twice recently. Last year 'they' told me I could not run my excavator without fire fighting equipment and a spark arrested. This year they told me I had to leave tens of thousands of dollars worth of trees on my own property to help protect a river.
You know what I said? I said "That's cool."
Somehow I just don't get off on working myself up into some raging sense of victimization. I guess I don't watch enough Fox News perhaps.
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- ...
Ya, ya, that old chestnut. I've heard it 1000 times (and once or twice on this very thread as I recall.) Yawn.
They 'came for me' twice recently. Last year 'they' told me I could not run my excavator without fire fighting equipment and a spark arrested. This year they told me I had to leave tens of thousands of dollars worth of trees on my own property to help protect a river.
You know what I said? I said "That's cool."
Somehow I just don't get off on working myself up into some raging sense of victimization. I guess I don't watch enough Fox News perhaps.
Next on the agenda:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/11/the-feds-next-land-fight-new-mexico-ranchers-anger/
This has the potential to turn into a rather amusing pattern:
- Take some fairly reasonable action (e.g., charge grazing fees, protect archaeological sites, preserve diminishing water resources (which have nothing to do with climate change of course...))
- Wait for some idiot, or cluster of said, to do something stupid and illegal.
- Allow observers to ridicule idiots for being stupid and unreasonable.
- Strip idiots of their possessions due to the illegal nature of their actions.
Boo-hoo if Bundy, for instance, loses everything he's got as far as I'm concerned. That's what happens to jackasses. Same with the knuckle-dragers and their power-ranger ATV toys and bang-bang sticks.
I'll look forward to picking up another ATV at the government auction to add to my collection, and am very pleased that the wannabe-warrior militia loons will be dis-armed. And maybe if they need to be incarcerated some of the non-violent drug offenders from the phony 'war on drugs' will be released to make room.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
-Martin Niemöller
Next on the agenda:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/11/the-feds-next-land-fight-new-mexico-ranchers-anger/
This has the potential to turn into a rather amusing pattern:
- Take some fairly reasonable action (e.g., charge grazing fees, protect archaeological sites, preserve diminishing water resources (which have nothing to do with climate change of course...))
- Wait for some idiot, or cluster of said, to do something stupid and illegal.
- Allow observers to ridicule idiots for being stupid and unreasonable.
- Strip idiots of their possessions due to the illegal nature of their actions.
Boo-hoo if Bundy, for instance, loses everything he's got as far as I'm concerned. That's what happens to jackasses. Same with the knuckle-dragers and their power-ranger ATV toys and bang-bang sticks.
I'll look forward to picking up another ATV at the government auction to add to my collection, and am very pleased that the wannabe-warrior militia loons will be dis-armed. And maybe if they need to be incarcerated some of the non-violent drug offenders from the phony 'war on drugs' will be released to make room.
They have record of your wealth, and that is enough to hang you up by your balls until your private keys fall off your tongue.
You can indeed be forced by law to reveal your secrets.
Untrue. If it is physically impossible to rubber-hose info out of someone, that will not occur. That's why Snowden didn't bring anything along with him when he went to Russia.
Anyone rubber-hosing a person for wealth is almost certain to kill him when the wealth is extracted. If the wealth is not extracted because it is physically impossible, then they have an option to kill him or not. In a lot of cases, killing someone carries some risks so a logical course of action would be to walk away.
I've arranged my defenses to be more against the current criminal class than against state sponsored attacks since the former is much more possible in the short-to-mid term, but these defenses apply to state sponsored attacks as well.
The point is every one of us is breaking several Federal (or EU) laws every day.
If you have assets, they know it, and the bankrupted world is coming after you:
If you have assets, they know it, and the bankrupted world is coming after you:
The International Forecaster
World Markets Update
by James Corbett
corbettreport.com
May 3, 2014
Switzerland and Singapore are the latest signatories to an OECD deal on sharing data
and tax information between countries that now includes 47 nations. The deal, pushed
in recent years by the G20, forces signatory nations to share a wide range of
financial information including bank balances, interest income, sales proceeds and
dividends. Ostensibly a plan to crack down on tax evasion by multinationals and the
global elite, it is actually part of that very elite's plan for a global
governmental system based on complete transparency of every individuals' economic
(and other) activities. This is of course a key stepping stone on the path to the
implementation of a truly global tax, an idea that has already been kicked around
for some years at the UN and other globalist bodies.
World Markets Update
by James Corbett
corbettreport.com
May 3, 2014
Switzerland and Singapore are the latest signatories to an OECD deal on sharing data
and tax information between countries that now includes 47 nations. The deal, pushed
in recent years by the G20, forces signatory nations to share a wide range of
financial information including bank balances, interest income, sales proceeds and
dividends. Ostensibly a plan to crack down on tax evasion by multinationals and the
global elite, it is actually part of that very elite's plan for a global
governmental system based on complete transparency of every individuals' economic
(and other) activities. This is of course a key stepping stone on the path to the
implementation of a truly global tax, an idea that has already been kicked around
for some years at the UN and other globalist bodies.
Well, if you have wealth that you scammed or stole, or are you are a criminal due to tax avoidance, then I can see how you would be especially concerned in the here and now. I'm not in that category.
I'm not actually all that worried about extreme abuse and theft by the governments for people in my category because if that were systematic then it wold imply that a large percentage of the population were being abused in a similar manner. That is unsustainable from a political point of view under any likely political system.
OTOH, under some sort of a local war-lord quasi-anarchy system like you SC/PC folks dream of, such abuse would be the norm. I just don't believe that there is much chance that we'll ever see that. And if so, I'll be long gone for the short time that it persists.
NSA doesn't wipe its computers in Utah. Google doesn't wipe its server farms of data they are required to retain. Etc.
None of these systems ever had my private keys. Or at least not in an intelligible form.
They have record of your wealth, and that is enough to hang you up by your balls until your private keys fall off your tongue.
You can indeed be forced by law to reveal your secrets.
The point is every one of us is breaking several Federal (or EU) laws every day.
If you have assets, they know it, and the bankrupted world is coming after you:
The International Forecaster
World Markets Update
by James Corbett
corbettreport.com
May 3, 2014
Switzerland and Singapore are the latest signatories to an OECD deal on sharing data
and tax information between countries that now includes 47 nations. The deal, pushed
in recent years by the G20, forces signatory nations to share a wide range of
financial information including bank balances, interest income, sales proceeds and
dividends. Ostensibly a plan to crack down on tax evasion by multinationals and the
global elite, it is actually part of that very elite's plan for a global
governmental system based on complete transparency of every individuals' economic
(and other) activities. This is of course a key stepping stone on the path to the
implementation of a truly global tax, an idea that has already been kicked around
for some years at the UN and other globalist bodies.
World Markets Update
by James Corbett
corbettreport.com
May 3, 2014
Switzerland and Singapore are the latest signatories to an OECD deal on sharing data
and tax information between countries that now includes 47 nations. The deal, pushed
in recent years by the G20, forces signatory nations to share a wide range of
financial information including bank balances, interest income, sales proceeds and
dividends. Ostensibly a plan to crack down on tax evasion by multinationals and the
global elite, it is actually part of that very elite's plan for a global
governmental system based on complete transparency of every individuals' economic
(and other) activities. This is of course a key stepping stone on the path to the
implementation of a truly global tax, an idea that has already been kicked around
for some years at the UN and other globalist bodies.
Get your head out of your ass and read about the history Mindanao where I am now, and the tribes in the mountains of Luzon.
Mindanao? Patriarchy has been created 10'000 years ago. Anarchy died 10'000 years ago.
We were talking about tribal warfare. Don't change the topic.
I've never written such a thing. I said people are rising up because they don't feel represented. I never said I prefer to replace it with a representative government. Instead I've written that democracy is always a power vacuum and thus always ends up where we are now.
Anonymint, the collectivst wrote that there is nothing wrong with local governements and that the global one is the only problem.
I never wrote that. I said that given a choice between global and local government, I prefer return of control to local government. You can see from my last quote below that I understand any form of collectivist government is subject to the power vacuum of vested interests. However at least the tribal local government was within the human's Dunbar limit and thus it was nearly impossible to do corruption without everyone in the tribe knowing it on a personal basis.
Quote me exactly:
FWIW, I personally believe that it is generally better that states control most of the non privately owned land within their jurisdictions.
No it is better if local government controls it. And if you don't understand why, then you don't understand a god damn thing about fitness. Try clicking my blog on my signature and see if you can learn a little bit of math.
Unfortunately we have kooks on the other side of the equation who have had recent success in halting even reasonable use of the forests
You fucking insane environmentalists go fuck a tree. I haven't forgotten your asinine post upthread about respecting the need to obtain a timber cutting permit.
Local communities should compete on how to manage resources, then clearly the best management will win and then optimum fitness will spread like a wave.
Generally I agree with the principle of political localization and autonomy. There is a realistic limit to how much things can be localized since the resources available to a local government are limited. There are also situations where problems and issues are geographically broad so localized political structures are inefficient (at best) to deal with them. Certain ecological issues fit into this catagory for instance.
If for example, local communities can't form a pact on the shared use of a resource that binds them, e.g. a river, then they destroy each other and the more powerful one comes in and takes control over all.
Thus rational men will form pacts, while retaining autonomy on orthogonal issues, i.e. not marrying into one Federal fascist power corruption structure.
I'm fine with people doing more or less whatever they like on their own land. Nobody has convinced me yet that anyone in the U.S. should have some sort of dynastic entitlement to almost anything, and certainly not the likes of Cliven Bundy.
Who should work that land then? The whole point is we want that land returned back to the local governments and then the local people decide what to do with their land. They can auction it off or whatever. Many competing locales, means the best practices eventually get copied and adopted. The others fail and default.
Now here is the very key point. Pay close attention.
If the people can't win on a local level, then it means any proposed solution will be supporting loss of local sovereignty. You simply can't amass resources collectively and avoid the corruption of the power vacuum of democracy. Understanding Mancur Olson's (in his book The Logic Of Collective Action) thesis is fundamental to understanding where we are and are headed:
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984 (Some Iron Laws of Political Economics)
Thus you see the ultimate outcome of this country-by-country uprising is to turn over control to those who have the levers of control (over the power vacuum) in the wider-scale collective, e.g. the USA, EU, Russian bloc, subservient Asia bloc (China).
And you can thus see it will culminate with war and then ending war with socialist "international cooperation".
If the people can't win on a local level, then it means any proposed solution will be supporting loss of local sovereignty. You simply can't amass resources collectively and avoid the corruption of the power vacuum of democracy. Understanding Mancur Olson's (in his book The Logic Of Collective Action) thesis is fundamental to understanding where we are and are headed:
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984 (Some Iron Laws of Political Economics)
Thus you see the ultimate outcome of this country-by-country uprising is to turn over control to those who have the levers of control (over the power vacuum) in the wider-scale collective, e.g. the USA, EU, Russian bloc, subservient Asia bloc (China).
And you can thus see it will culminate with war and then ending war with socialist "international cooperation".
I'm aiming for a Knowledge Age, where each person is entirely free of governance and corporations.
That would be the first time in history, that such (labour dividing) perversion of the community would work. The communists also tried to pervert the community. The results of such hyper-collectivist experiments are well known.
Yeah because it would be first time we would own our knowledge and skills rather than being enslaved in stored capital and the manipulation of stored capital via the power vacuum of the collective.
And it will economically defeat your idea of burning all the books and returning to a subsistence existence (which btw was not resilient to Ice Ages, 7 year droughts, etc, which is one reason we were forced to increase our technology in order to survive).
My disagreement with you is you are conflating things. You think technology can only exist with governance and corporations. I think technology can exist and boost individual prosperity in an anarchistic manner.
You instead want everyone to remain a caveman without any technology. You better get rid of the hunting bow and discovery of fire too.
You instead want everyone to remain a caveman without any technology. You better get rid of the hunting bow and discovery of fire too.
Bullshit over and over again. Nomades never lived in caves. Neither in the past nor today.
Where they lived is irrelevant. 'Cavemen' is a metaphor for a very rudimentary standard-of-living.
NSA doesn't wipe its computers in Utah. Google doesn't wipe its server farms of data they are required to retain. Etc.
None of these systems ever had my private keys. Or at least not in an intelligible form.
NSA doesn't wipe its computers in Utah. Google doesn't wipe its server farms of data they are required to retain. Etc.
Militiamen move on from Bundy fight to next battle with BLM - Sheriffs in Utah standing with Militia against BLM
http://m.lvsun.com/news/2014/may/09/militiamen-move-bundy-fight-next-battle-blm/
http://m.lvsun.com/news/2014/may/09/militiamen-move-bundy-fight-next-battle-blm/
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Militiamen and woman camping on Cliven Bundy’s cattle ranch are packing up and heading to Utah where another protest against the Bureau of Land Management will happen Saturday.
Ryan Payne, a Montana resident who had been staying at the ranch for a month, said he drove eight hours to arrive in the eastern Utah town this morning. Three militia members from the ranch and a handful of people from a group called Citizens Action Network came to Utah, too, he said.
"This is where it’s happening Saturday,” he said.
They and others Saturday will be armed, he said, and ride ATVs into Recapture Canyon, an area the BLM declared off-limits to motorized vehicles in 2007. The ride is organized by San Juan County, Utah, Commissioner Phil Lyman.
Payne met Friday morning with the San Juan County, Utah, Sheriff Rick Eldridge. Afterward, he said he expects Saturday’s protest to be peaceful because Eldridge pledged to “protect us from the BLM.”
Payne characterized their discussion, saying Eldridge has contacted other sheriff’s departments who “stated that if he needed support to get the BLM out of there, they would help.”
Ryan Payne, a Montana resident who had been staying at the ranch for a month, said he drove eight hours to arrive in the eastern Utah town this morning. Three militia members from the ranch and a handful of people from a group called Citizens Action Network came to Utah, too, he said.
"This is where it’s happening Saturday,” he said.
They and others Saturday will be armed, he said, and ride ATVs into Recapture Canyon, an area the BLM declared off-limits to motorized vehicles in 2007. The ride is organized by San Juan County, Utah, Commissioner Phil Lyman.
Payne met Friday morning with the San Juan County, Utah, Sheriff Rick Eldridge. Afterward, he said he expects Saturday’s protest to be peaceful because Eldridge pledged to “protect us from the BLM.”
Payne characterized their discussion, saying Eldridge has contacted other sheriff’s departments who “stated that if he needed support to get the BLM out of there, they would help.”
Sorry to break the news to you, but that is over. You know what happend? Nothing. It was obviously and adolescent tantrum and everyone including the BLM just shrugged. Bummer, eh?
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OTOH...maybe we've got the feds quaking in their boots, on the ropes, and ready to collapse! If we all just head on down to DC this thing could be over and rapture will be upon us!
http://operationamericanspring.org/
10 MILLION true American Patriots and you could be among them. Our grandchildren will sing great songs about us. Let's roll! Go! Go! Go!
Militiamen move on from Bundy fight to next battle with BLM - Sheriffs in Utah standing with Militia against BLM
http://m.lvsun.com/news/2014/may/09/militiamen-move-bundy-fight-next-battle-blm/
http://m.lvsun.com/news/2014/may/09/militiamen-move-bundy-fight-next-battle-blm/
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Militiamen and woman camping on Cliven Bundy’s cattle ranch are packing up and heading to Utah where another protest against the Bureau of Land Management will happen Saturday.
Ryan Payne, a Montana resident who had been staying at the ranch for a month, said he drove eight hours to arrive in the eastern Utah town this morning. Three militia members from the ranch and a handful of people from a group called Citizens Action Network came to Utah, too, he said.
"This is where it’s happening Saturday,” he said.
They and others Saturday will be armed, he said, and ride ATVs into Recapture Canyon, an area the BLM declared off-limits to motorized vehicles in 2007. The ride is organized by San Juan County, Utah, Commissioner Phil Lyman.
Payne met Friday morning with the San Juan County, Utah, Sheriff Rick Eldridge. Afterward, he said he expects Saturday’s protest to be peaceful because Eldridge pledged to “protect us from the BLM.”
Payne characterized their discussion, saying Eldridge has contacted other sheriff’s departments who “stated that if he needed support to get the BLM out of there, they would help.”
Ryan Payne, a Montana resident who had been staying at the ranch for a month, said he drove eight hours to arrive in the eastern Utah town this morning. Three militia members from the ranch and a handful of people from a group called Citizens Action Network came to Utah, too, he said.
"This is where it’s happening Saturday,” he said.
They and others Saturday will be armed, he said, and ride ATVs into Recapture Canyon, an area the BLM declared off-limits to motorized vehicles in 2007. The ride is organized by San Juan County, Utah, Commissioner Phil Lyman.
Payne met Friday morning with the San Juan County, Utah, Sheriff Rick Eldridge. Afterward, he said he expects Saturday’s protest to be peaceful because Eldridge pledged to “protect us from the BLM.”
Payne characterized their discussion, saying Eldridge has contacted other sheriff’s departments who “stated that if he needed support to get the BLM out of there, they would help.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/bundy-ranch-militia-may-have-considered-attack-on-air-force-base
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The information, which comes from a person with contacts inside the militia movement, states that a small number of militia members who refer to themselves as “Three (III) Percenters” had plotted via Facebook chats to raid what one of the militia members identifies as an “ammo dump” on the grounds of the Nellis Air Force Range northwest of Las Vegas. The location that was pinpointed by the plotters has been confirmed by Examiner to be on the outskirts of the Nellis range.
The information, which comes from a person with contacts inside the militia movement, states that a small number of militia members who refer to themselves as “Three (III) Percenters” had plotted via Facebook chats to raid what one of the militia members identifies as an “ammo dump” on the grounds of the Nellis Air Force Range northwest of Las Vegas. The location that was pinpointed by the plotters has been confirmed by Examiner to be on the outskirts of the Nellis range.
ROTFL!
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I actually just became aware of the 'Operation American Spring' event which is scheduled for next week I guess. Normally I don't follow this stuff a lot, but it's caught my interest of late.
I do consider it a very strong possibility that the Bundy event and possibly the Canyon ride event are significantly managed as a psychological operation targeting the U.S. citizenry. How much pre-planning and how much management remains to be explored. The question in my mind is whether these two events are related to the OAS effort. If so...
Here are a number of hypothesis, some of which have some overlap, that come to mind; Bundy+ was an effort to:
- Foment public opinion against the people who are likely to participate in OAS and paint them as more of a threat then they probably are.
- Tie up some of the most likely supporters. 'Poke the hornets nest' and understand the networks that exist.
- Get a larger count of like-minded citizens interested and also feeling guilty about not participating and more likely to try to pull their weight and show up for OAS. (*)
- Tie up and burn out some of the most radical of the likely OAS group to keep them from participating.
- Tag some of the more radical of the OAS group to justify more extreme actions against them during the OAS operation if need be.
- Provide an excuse to break into the OAS group potentially with lethal force in order to extract those who are identified as perpetrators in the Bundy event via the ongoing FBI investigations.
(*) 'OAS' is hoping to get 10M people initially and 1M people dedicated for longer duration operations. This is somewhat laughable. I was just reading about a couple of past OAS-like operations. From:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/harry-riley-operation-american-spring-fox-news
- Operation 'Velvet Spring': Expected: 10,000. Actual: 2
- "Truckers Ride for the Constitution": Expected: thousands. Actual: 30
- "Million Vets March": Actual: several hundred to 1000.
Given the dry nets I would expect some efforts to try to throw a little chum into the waters. The basis for this hypothesis is that this is one of the goals of the Bundy event and it's progression to the Canyon run.
Get your head out of your ass and read about the history Mindanao where I am now, and the tribes in the mountains of Luzon.
Mindanao? Patriarchy has been created 10'000 years ago. Anarchy died 10'000 years ago.
As I told you already: Both your head and your ass do not know anything about the history of the homines sapientes.
I've never written such a thing. I said people are rising up because they don't feel represented. I never said I prefer to replace it with a representative government. Instead I've written that democracy is always a power vacuum and thus always ends up where we are now.
Anonymint, the collectivst wrote that there is nothing wrong with local governements and that the global one is the only problem.
I'm aiming for a Knowledge Age, where each person is entirely free of governance and corporations.
That would be the first time in history, that such (labour dividing) perversion of the community would work. The communists also tried to pervert the community. The results of such hyper-collectivist experiments are well known.
My disagreement with you is you are conflating things. You think technology can only exist with governance and corporations. I think technology can exist and boost individual prosperity in an anarchistic manner.
You instead want everyone to remain a caveman without any technology. You better get rid of the hunting bow and discovery of fire too.
You instead want everyone to remain a caveman without any technology. You better get rid of the hunting bow and discovery of fire too.
Bullshit over and over again. Nomades never lived in caves. Neither in the past nor today.
This 'maine prepper' guy has another very worthwhile vid out. It really homes in on what a 'sovereign citizen' is. It also provides some insight into what is likely going to be the fate of those who, for potentially very good reason, got sucked into the Bundy affair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axS3S0Ax6CE
It's a long vid, but I found it entertaining from start to finish.
Computers don't forget.
Of course they do. There's a little stanza sys-admins call 'wipe' (depending on one's OS/distro.) All bets are off, however, if one's running an SSD. Also, in some cases a greater system can leak data before it's forgotten if certain organizations have sufficient interest in obtaining said data.
Computers don't forget.
Remember bank robbers rob banks because that is where the money is. The government knows about all your Bitcoin.
Even I don't know all about all of my Bitcoins. It can be made arbitrarily cumbersome to get at those which I do, and there are good reasons to spread them across a spectrum in this respect. And, of course, there is a lot of technical talent working on stealing people's BTC and that occurs with regularity.
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