Topic: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion - page 17. (Read 5530 times)

There was a lot of goal drama in extra time, this also happened when Bahrain won over Malaysia. Bahrain scored in the 95th minute. After Bahrain won from Malaysia, Bahrain has the potential to qualify for the knockout phase as the best 3rd place. There are 4 countries that can enter by being ranked 3rd best. In addition, there are many calculations until the end of the preliminaries to ascertain who qualifies for the knockout phase. Even Palestine could be in the best 4 because it will be against Hong Kong. While Indonesia the safest way to enter the knockout phase is to hold Japan Draw. Indonesia had a tough match at the end. 


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The results of the match in Group D surprised me. Especially the results of the Iraq vs Japan match where Japan, which is the top team in this group, lost to Iraq, whose team quality is far from Japan. Apart from that, Indonesia's victory was also beyond my predictions, where previously I predicted that the Vietnam vs Indonesia match would end in a draw but the result was that Indonesia won. However, one thing that should be appreciated for Indonesia, they performed very well, especially in the first half where the tight pressing used by the Indonesian players made it very difficult for Vietnam to develop their game.

With this result, Indonesia's chances of qualifying from the group phase are still wide open even though the opponent they face in the final match of Group D is Japan. But I am sure, if the Indonesian players are able to maintain a game like against Vietnam by pressing hard, then it is not impossible that Indonesia will be able to beat Japan. Moreover, the third match will be a life and death match for the two teams to compete for tickets to qualify for the round of 16 alongside Iraq, which has automatically qualified for the group thanks to the two wins it achieved.

True, a draw can be enough for Indonesia to qualify to the next round but both a draw and a win are something that maybe hard to do for Indonesia as they are playing against one of the best teams in Asia. It is not impossible but the chance is just too small for Indonesia to get a draw or a win against Japan. A lose may still make Indonesia advanced to the next round but of course it will also depend on other results in other groups. As long as Indonesia remains on the top 4 of the best 3rd position team, they will go to the next round. Lets just pray for the best to our National team.

Even in sports everything is possible with recently Iraq Beats Japan with things are getting good change and few teams are improving their quality which is helping them for having better results but sadly in Indonesia case we have no improvement they beat Vietnam which is good but still they are not able to stand against team like Japan so for me most chances they will lose badly and Japan will also try to recover from this lost which happen against Iraq.

Indonesia needs to improve quality if they want to progress with their current performance things are not easy for them to have spot into round of the 16 as many teams are doing good job and have fair chance for staying at the above ranks and in future we can expect from them as well but this time it's not easy.

Thailand is enough to hold a draw with Oman. already guarantee Thailand qualify for the next round. if you lose the last opponent against Saudi Arabia is quite heavy. so if you want to safely qualify for the next round at least Thailand must play a draw.
in quality even not only draw the quality of the game thailand beat oman I think can win this match.

Thailand team will surely perform well today as they are comparatively stronger than Oman. As till now Thailand team is occupying the first place in the points table. Thailand team has good and experienced players, compared to Oman team lacks strong players. So far Thailand participated in one match and won one match so I think Thailand team will win today's match too.

Yep, Thailand only need 1 more win to guarantee their place in the elimination round, their match will take place today against Oman at Abdullah bin Khalifa Stadium.


Look at the 1X2 betting odds that I attached above, Oman has a bigger chance there of winning. What do you think? Does Thailand still have a big chance of winning at least 60% in today's match?


Indonesia doesn't have to beat Japan to have a chance of advancing to the next round, according to my analysis, they only need a draw, so that will most likely make them one of the best third-place teams. We have to be honest that Indonesia will not possibly beat Japan, so a draw is a more reasonable result.

You are right, and at this time we are still monitoring other teams like Thailand who still have a great chance to qualify for the next stage, Thailand only needs one more victory to ensure the place there meanwhile Indonesia needs other luck to be able to qualify somehow Indonesia should beat Japan on the other hand Japan is also eyeing victory of course they do not want to miss the opportunity when fighting a weaker team based on ranking. I don't say that Indonesia has no chance at all but the opportunity is very low or really need a miracle.

Well, with Malaysia losing to Bahrain, they've no chance of advancing to the next round at all, because it's impossible for them to beat South Korea or advance to the next round with just the 3 points they would have gotten if they beat South Korea.

So far we already have 2 teams from SEA who no longer have any role in the Asian Cup, the first is Vietnam and the second and now is Malaysia, I hope the team from SEA is able to do a lot in the Asian Cup this time, hopefully Indonesia or Thailand could at least enter the next round.

Of course realistically winning is quite difficult almost impossible, but it can happen. Everything can happen in football. In terms of the game, Indonesia is still developing, Indonesia is not as good as Japan. But I really enjoy the development of Indonesia, they are improving. As an Indonesian, I hope the miracle happens. At least Indonesia can make a new history to qualify for the knockout stages with the status of 2nd group winner or 3rd best. I think Indonesians are hoping the same as me.

Only three teams will compete for positions 1 and 2. Malaysia's position to qualify for the next round no longer exists after the match against Bahrain, Malaysia also lost with a score of 1-0. Now Malaysia is in last place with 0 points.

South Korea will play the deciding match in Group E against Malaysia. Jordan will face Bahrain. Looking for a quality win against South Korea, it will be difficult for Malaysia to get it.
It could be said that there is no longer any chance for Malaysia to aspire to qualify from the group stage in this tournament.

So in essence, Indonesia did not qualify for the next round because in the Indonesia vs Japan match, Indonesia would lose. Indonesia won over Vietnam thanks to a penalty goal. However, in terms of ball control and style of play, of course Vietnam is more dominant. I think Japan and Iraq will qualify for the next round.

If we look at the rankings and in terms of strength and experience, I think Japan is more superior than Indonesia, but because this is football we can't underestimate the strength of any country, for example, I'm sure everyone never thought that Morocco could reach the semi-finals of the world cup. 2022, that's why in football we can't underestimate a team that looks weak even though they are very strong and make things difficult, they always have surprises that we never know.

Japan may have experience in this Asian Cup compared to Indonesia, that's why they have to win, and Indonesia also wants to win this match. In fact, this meeting will be very tight so both of them will definitely play optimally to be able to show their best performance in order to qualify from the group to round of 16, I can't predict it but basically I support Indonesia to qualify but it seems it will be very difficult for them to beat a strong team like Japan where they are full of the best and classiest players while Indonesia still relies on several naturalized players who have not fully adapted to perfect. I will not miss this match.  

Can't acceptable for Indonesian team defeat Japan on the last match round but has possibility with getting draw or losses under 1 or 2 goals will make Indonesian team get best 3rd places. Indonesian team has on 2nd best 3rd place teams of four team will qualify to 16 round. Last group match will know any possibility for Indonesia get finish on best 3rd standings place or any miracle with Indonesia team defeat Japan last match group round.

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Optimistic with Japan performance not quit well in this AFC Asian Cup edition, conceded two goals against Vietnam of first match and losses 2-1 over Iraq seems Indonesia can hold draw Japan and both team get chance qualify to next round as Japan runner up finish standings and Indonesia as best 3rd place position.

These Asian Cup games are very unpredictable, yesterday I spent a few hours analyzing all the games to see if I could place my bets, as there were many games with very low odds so I thought it would be a good choice to make a multibet bet with those games that they had very low odds. so I chose the Japan game against Iraq, although Iraq has been a team that is doing well in this competition, I don't know anything about the Iraqi players and the Japan national team has been a team that played in the world cup very well and they also have a very decent local league in terms of quality and as the odds were 1.20 I even thought it wasn't a bad move to put Japan to win.

After analyzing and putting Japan in my parlay, I went to analyze Jordan's game against South Korea, the odds were also acceptable and although I saw that Jordan has done well in this competition, I sided with South Korea who In the World Cup they also did well and have good players. So I added the southern belt to my parlay too. I believed that South Korea and Japan would not have much difficulty winning in their games. So then I went to analyze Iran's game against Hong Kong, which seemed to me to be a game in which Iran would clearly win, so I added Iran to my parlay. Even though I had Japan, North Korea and Iran in my multibet bet, the total odds were still not good.

So I decided to wait and see if the odds would increase considerably for me to place my bets. I confess that I spent hours watching and nothing increased, until I forgot about these games and when I remembered them, the Japan game against Iraq had already ended, I kept thinking: Japan lost, the odds in case someone bet on Japan's victory Iraq was very high while anyone who bet on Japan's victory would only have 1.20, something insignificant for the risk involved in this game. but I was relieved that I didn't bet on those games. This has become very unpredictable. Teams considered strong on paper are not strong, on the contrary, they are weak.

This match was beyond our expectations regarding South Korea who should have had the opportunity to overthrow Jordan in this match, taking the lead in the 9th minute from the penalty spot which Son executed very well. however, disaster came after Yong Woo Park made a blunder on his own goal. In the end, the position became equal. like a re-motivated team, Jordan managed to capitalize on his chance in the final minutes of the first half to make it 2-1. unexpectedly, the score turned into Jordan's advantage. entering the second half, the match was going very hard. South Korea played more aggressively to try to gain ground. there were 15 attempted shots by South Korea in the second half, 5 shots on target, 1 big chance. Luckily, in the 90+1 minute, the Korean player's shot hit defender Jordan who was unable to block properly. Then, an equalizing goal was scored and South Korea managed to escape defeat in this match.

This match, in the end, was a draw. However, Jordan is the team in first place with a lead of 6 goals and 2 conceded. while South Korea 5 goals, 3 conceded. Well, as for the team predictions, it doesn't match my expectations. However, the Over 2.75 goals @1.82 option is exactly according to my estimates and predictions
In the other match, Bahrain vs Malaysia, the score is still 0-0. This match is almost nearing the end of the match. It is very likely that there will be no goals for either team.

How tense was the match between Indonesia and Vietnam which took place last Friday, after going through a long struggle for 90 minutes, the Garuda Indonesia team managed to win with a score of 1-0 over Vietnam, even though the difference was not far, this made the Indonesian team qualify for the last 16 of the group. D Asian Cup 2023 currently. Thanks to a penalty kick executed by captain Asnawi Mangkualam in the 42nd minute, the Indonesian team won over Vietnam.

Even though the Indonesian Team had many opportunities to score goals again, I saw that the performance of the Indonesian players last night was very poor and there was a lack of chemistry between the players and others, so that the opportunities that existed before. Our eyes fail to execute beautiful goals because we are too hasty or even lack of focus on the ball that is being played so that the ball is difficult to enter the goal. If only the players played relaxed and didn't rush to score goals, then I don't think just 1 goal would have been contributed. Yes, but it doesn't matter what matters. The Indonesian team can still win and can continue to the next match. Hopefully the previous mistakes will not be repeated in the next competition.

Your explanation is too convoluted, what do you actually want to convey from your statement?

Regarding Indonesia's next match, I think that this match will be a match that's impossible for Indonesia to win. A draw is the solution for Indonesia here, because even though Indonesia will remain in third place in Group F, at least Indonesia will be one of the best 3rd places and can advance to the next round too.

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FYI, Jordan - South Korea match ended in a draw, with this result both teams have 4 points which makes it even more difficult for Malaysia to advance to the next round.

The performance of the Indonesian national team was really great and I think now Indonesia has new enthusiasm because they won the match against Vietnam with a score of 0-1. I think getting 3 points could be an encouragement for the Indonesian national team. Now Indonesia has a tough task because the next match the Indonesian national team will face Japan. Honestly, this is a difficult match for Indonesia because Japan's performance is very good, but I'm sure Shin tae-yong will train the Indonesian national team well and honestly I want to see the Indonesian national team. win in the next match. But I'm sure Indonesia will appear confident when facing Japan and now the points that Japan and Indonesia have got are the same, namely 3, it looks like this will be an interesting match.

Japan, which was beaten by Iraq with a score of 2-1 and Indonesia, which was beaten by Iraq with a score of 1-3, and both teams scored equally against Iraq and of course Indonesia will definitely use all its strength to make Japan lose as well as Japan of course as a team who always takes followin the world cup doesn't want to be beaten by the Indonesian national team.

Based on the odds that you have provided, there is no doubt that South Korea will win this match (regardless of whether they will exceed the handicap or not), that's because this match is a deciding match, whoever wins this match will certainly advance to the next round.

The game had been going on for a few minutes, and I hadn't seen any significant attacking from Jordan's side, there was only South Korea there. We'll see whether there will be a miracle for Jordan or not, one thing is certain, Jordan will not be able to win here.