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Topic: ASICMINER Auction: 50 Block Erupter Blades CHECK OP FOR PAYMENT - page 21. (Read 138630 times)

legendary
Activity: 1288
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Away on an extended break
I made it very clear I wanted to pay immediately, and was not provided that option.
That is why I both had my bid rescinded and will not be blacklisted.
That part needs to be clear. 
Secondly, I made one(1) bid, and it was the last bid.
I drove nothing up.
Thirdly, as I have demonstrated in this thread, I had the money ready to pay. 

You did not honor a binding bid - full stop.
I was not provided the means to do so, and still have not been.  Bottom line.
Are you joking? Payment instruction are and were in the OP. The address to which you have to pay is the following: 1GfYjwX4uGQYDbqRtHYWMxCrMaVVWqK9DZ

You can check it by yourself here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFhLaW9Lb05GT252UERSbkhJdm8yeHc#gid=0
I see that now, but the point is that information needs to be provided immediately. 
If you cannot even bother to read the rules of the auction before you place a bid, then why would anyone trust you to follow the rules of the gambling games you run?

I read the rules, specifically 24h (payment and info collection).
My understanding of that is stated clearly. 
I expected to be able to pay within any point of the 24 hours.
    I do not understand. Why not pay right now? Twenty-four hour has not yet expired.

It is 48 hours for the info and payment collection, for the record.

I find it pointless arguing when he has shown that he does not want to pay - I guess friedcat had that in mind too especially that a public argument with him will only incur a bad image for his company. I'm sorry that other bidders was affected though - I'll try to ask friedcat to prevent this kind of problems in the future auctions.

Next time I'll try bidding at Sotheby's for fun and ask for my bid to be cancelled when the payment isn't requested after a few seconds.  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
why not run next auction in little bit more professional way. let say use some auction script, when everybody will see bids in real time as well as counts. In present situation people staring posting their bids in last minutes because nobody can scroll trough 5 pages in one minute and get a picture of what is going on.

I'm lost and sad about it, same as many others. I really hope something can be done for next rounds.
       I absolutely agree. I lost since the list was not updated regularly. I had no idea how much to offer.
Having an auction script working will require everyone to bid in strict methods - the poor auction bot was hosed for example when someone bidded ' 10@30, please cancel the bid at 4@20' and actually wanting to bid 10@30 PLUS an old bid at 6@25 . Also, when the bids started coming in around 5 second per bid, I don't think that the bot can scrape the site fast enough to update the list.
hero member
Activity: 711
Merit: 500
I made it very clear I wanted to pay immediately, and was not provided that option.
That is why I both had my bid rescinded and will not be blacklisted.
That part needs to be clear. 
Secondly, I made one(1) bid, and it was the last bid.
I drove nothing up.
Thirdly, as I have demonstrated in this thread, I had the money ready to pay. 

You did not honor a binding bid - full stop.
I was not provided the means to do so, and still have not been.  Bottom line.
Are you joking? Payment instruction are and were in the OP. The address to which you have to pay is the following: 1GfYjwX4uGQYDbqRtHYWMxCrMaVVWqK9DZ

You can check it by yourself here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFhLaW9Lb05GT252UERSbkhJdm8yeHc#gid=0
I see that now, but the point is that information needs to be provided immediately. 
If you cannot even bother to read the rules of the auction before you place a bid, then why would anyone trust you to follow the rules of the gambling games you run?

I read the rules, specifically 24h (payment and info collection).
My understanding of that is stated clearly. 
I expected to be able to pay within any point of the 24 hours.
    I do not understand. Why not pay right now? Twenty-four hour has not yet expired.
hero member
Activity: 711
Merit: 500
if someone can't pay within 24 hours just have a look who is next beyond the cutoff and sell it them if they are still interested.

Here's the problem with that.   I see the lowest set of bids going for 50.  I bid for X number of units at say, 60.  This pushes some of the low bidders out, forcing them to either quit or place a new higher bid.  Now the auction is over, I win with my 60 but quit without paying.  Those X number of units are now awarded to the bidder that was at the bottom of the winners list at the low bid price. 

All kinds of shenanigans when you play that game.

This is why bids are binding - you don't honor your bid (or you don't honor the winner of an auction) - you get immediately a scammer tag and you are blacklisted for future auctions. That's the only way to keep this serious. And this is why you cannot edit posts in these subforums.
    I absolutely agree. Thank you!
hero member
Activity: 560
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Don't worry about him. Friedcat did his part for the auction, wait for John and the other admins to take action. His future bids won't be taken as seriously.
hero member
Activity: 557
Merit: 500
why not run next auction in little bit more professional way. let say use some auction script, when everybody will see bids in real time as well as counts. In present situation people staring posting their bids in last minutes because nobody can scroll trough 5 pages in one minute and get a picture of what is going on.

I'm lost and sad about it, same as many others. I really hope something can be done for next rounds.
       I absolutely agree. I lost since the list was not updated regularly. I had no idea how much to offer.

Just offer whatever price you want next time, then back out because you didn't get the payment address within five minutes. 

hero member
Activity: 711
Merit: 500
why not run next auction in little bit more professional way. let say use some auction script, when everybody will see bids in real time as well as counts. In present situation people staring posting their bids in last minutes because nobody can scroll trough 5 pages in one minute and get a picture of what is going on.

I'm lost and sad about it, same as many others. I really hope something can be done for next rounds.
       I absolutely agree. I lost since the list was not updated regularly. I had no idea how much to offer.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1018
I think it would be benefical if we don't pursue this matter further. It's just pointless noise.

Can anyone please confirm the dimensions of the block erupters?

It's not pointless to try to stop the abuse in these subforums. It's happening a lot lately.
hero member
Activity: 886
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I think it would be benefical if we don't pursue this matter further. It's just pointless noise.

Can anyone please confirm the dimensions of the block erupters?
full member
Activity: 235
Merit: 100

You just may get your wish Caesium.

Referring to Caesium getting your two units by backing out - less than seven hours after the AM auction ended. 

So your argument that "couldn't pay immediately" doesn't hold water.  You started looking for an out one hour and twenty five minutes after the AM auction ended. 

It's scum bag behavior.  You run a gambling website.  If I was outbid by your hijinks, I'd not only pursue the scammer tag, but also make sure everyone knows that WinVery.com is run by a scum bag and not to be trusted. 


It's actually my entire argument, and it was presented to the auctioneer and accepted
with an admission of mismanagement and an apology for the inconvenience
of not having the payment information at hand. That's it.
hero member
Activity: 557
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You just may get your wish Caesium.

Referring to Caesium getting your two units by backing out - less than seven hours after the AM auction ended. 

So your argument that "couldn't pay immediately" doesn't hold water.  You started looking for an out one hour and twenty five minutes after the AM auction ended. 

It's scum bag behavior.  You run a gambling website.  If I was outbid by your hijinks, I'd not only pursue the scammer tag, but also make sure everyone knows that WinVery.com is run by a scum bag and not to be trusted. 
full member
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Congratulation WinVery.com - you are the first person I ever used the 'ignore' button on - well done

Marvelous
hero member
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Congratulation WinVery.com - you are the first person I ever used the 'ignore' button on - well done
full member
Activity: 235
Merit: 100
I made it very clear I wanted to pay immediately, and was not provided that option.
That is why I both had my bid rescinded and will not be blacklisted.
That part needs to be clear. 
Secondly, I made one(1) bid, and it was the last bid.
I drove nothing up.
Thirdly, as I have demonstrated in this thread, I had the money ready to pay. 

You did not honor a binding bid - full stop.
I was not provided the means to do so, and still have not been.  Bottom line.
Are you joking? Payment instruction are and were in the OP. The address to which you have to pay is the following: 1GfYjwX4uGQYDbqRtHYWMxCrMaVVWqK9DZ

You can check it by yourself here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFhLaW9Lb05GT252UERSbkhJdm8yeHc#gid=0
I see that now, but the point is that information needs to be provided immediately. 
If you cannot even bother to read the rules of the auction before you place a bid, then why would anyone trust you to follow the rules of the gambling games you run?

I read the rules, specifically 24h (payment and info collection).
My understanding of that is stated clearly. 
I expected to be able to pay within any point of the 24 hours.

Friedcat posted the payment addresses a couple hours after John had tallied up the bids. I can't be bothered to go find Friedcat's exact post to give you a timestamp, I'll leave that as an exercise for you in how to use a forum.

Also, the rules..

This round also have a 96h period in total. But it's divided to 48h (auction) and 48h (payment and info collection), instead of last time's 72h (auction) and 24h (payment and info collection).

You read the wrong thing and inferred that payment acceptance would be immediate like eBay. I don't even get why this matters but for the sake of arguing, nowhere does it state that payment would be accepted immediately after the auction ended. Stop trying to weasel out of this.

I assure you I am out of it unscathed. I have also positively contributed to the strengthening of the auction protocols.  For that I am glad.  Happy to help.
hero member
Activity: 697
Merit: 500
I made it very clear I wanted to pay immediately, and was not provided that option.
That is why I both had my bid rescinded and will not be blacklisted.
That part needs to be clear. 
Secondly, I made one(1) bid, and it was the last bid.
I drove nothing up.
Thirdly, as I have demonstrated in this thread, I had the money ready to pay. 

You did not honor a binding bid - full stop.
I was not provided the means to do so, and still have not been.  Bottom line.
Are you joking? Payment instruction are and were in the OP. The address to which you have to pay is the following: 1GfYjwX4uGQYDbqRtHYWMxCrMaVVWqK9DZ

You can check it by yourself here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFhLaW9Lb05GT252UERSbkhJdm8yeHc#gid=0
I see that now, but the point is that information needs to be provided immediately. 
If you cannot even bother to read the rules of the auction before you place a bid, then why would anyone trust you to follow the rules of the gambling games you run?

I read the rules, specifically 24h (payment and info collection).
My understanding of that is stated clearly. 
I expected to be able to pay within any point of the 24 hours.

Friedcat posted the payment addresses a couple hours after John had tallied up the bids. I can't be bothered to go find Friedcat's exact post to give you a timestamp, I'll leave that as an exercise for you in how to use a forum.

Also, the rules..

This round also have a 96h period in total. But it's divided to 48h (auction) and 48h (payment and info collection), instead of last time's 72h (auction) and 24h (payment and info collection).

You read the wrong thing and inferred that payment acceptance would be immediate like eBay. I don't even get why this matters but for the sake of arguing, nowhere does it state that payment would be accepted immediately after the auction ended. Stop trying to weasel out of this.
full member
Activity: 235
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I made it very clear I wanted to pay immediately, and was not provided that option.

That is why I both had my bid rescinded and will not be blacklisted.

That part needs to be clear. 

Secondly, I made one(1) bid, and it was the last bid.

I drove nothing up.

Thirdly, as I have demonstrated in this thread, I had the money ready to pay. 


You did not honor a binding bid - full stop.

I was not provided the means to do so, and still have not been.  Bottom line.

Are you joking? Payment instruction are and were in the OP. The address to which you have to pay is the following: 1GfYjwX4uGQYDbqRtHYWMxCrMaVVWqK9DZ

You can check it by yourself here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFhLaW9Lb05GT252UERSbkhJdm8yeHc#gid=0

I see that now, but the point is that information needs to be provided immediately. 

The info was provided shortly after the end of the auction - it just took the time to compile the list of winners on a spreadsheet and to generate an individual address for each one of the winners. It's not possible to provide that info "immediately", nor friedcat nor John are working for you. Your bid was binding, and you deserve a scammer tag and to be blacklisted for not honoring it. I'm fed up of people abusing the auction subforum.

Plus, you tried to pull a stunt re-selling for a huge premium some goods you did not even pay for, and for which you had no intention to pay if you did not find a buyer. I know that not honoring your bid breaks this forums rules - I don't know about the re-selling an item you don't own, but anyhow is shameful on your part.

Be as fed up as you wish, Friedcat is in agreement with the faultiness of the payment time frame, apologized, accepted my withdrawal, and noted no blacklisting will occur.  Anything else?

It didn't cause any problems for the legitimate bidders.


Exactly.
hero member
Activity: 697
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It didn't cause any problems for the legitimate bidders.


True, but the fact stands that s/he placed a bid and then chose not to pay. Because he was unable to line up an immediate sale and make a profit this venture was not worth his time. In the BTC speculation forum this would likely earn a round of congratulations. In an auction this is being inconsiderate and warrants a scammer tag in my book. If not a scammer tag then at least a ban from the Auctions subforum.
full member
Activity: 235
Merit: 100
I made it very clear I wanted to pay immediately, and was not provided that option.
That is why I both had my bid rescinded and will not be blacklisted.
That part needs to be clear. 
Secondly, I made one(1) bid, and it was the last bid.
I drove nothing up.
Thirdly, as I have demonstrated in this thread, I had the money ready to pay. 

You did not honor a binding bid - full stop.
I was not provided the means to do so, and still have not been.  Bottom line.
Are you joking? Payment instruction are and were in the OP. The address to which you have to pay is the following: 1GfYjwX4uGQYDbqRtHYWMxCrMaVVWqK9DZ

You can check it by yourself here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFhLaW9Lb05GT252UERSbkhJdm8yeHc#gid=0
I see that now, but the point is that information needs to be provided immediately. 
If you cannot even bother to read the rules of the auction before you place a bid, then why would anyone trust you to follow the rules of the gambling games you run?

I read the rules, specifically 24h (payment and info collection).
My understanding of that is stated clearly. 
I expected to be able to pay within any point of the 24 hours.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1018
I made it very clear I wanted to pay immediately, and was not provided that option.

That is why I both had my bid rescinded and will not be blacklisted.

That part needs to be clear. 

Secondly, I made one(1) bid, and it was the last bid.

I drove nothing up.

Thirdly, as I have demonstrated in this thread, I had the money ready to pay. 


You did not honor a binding bid - full stop.

I was not provided the means to do so, and still have not been.  Bottom line.

Are you joking? Payment instruction are and were in the OP. The address to which you have to pay is the following: 1GfYjwX4uGQYDbqRtHYWMxCrMaVVWqK9DZ

You can check it by yourself here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdFhLaW9Lb05GT252UERSbkhJdm8yeHc#gid=0

I see that now, but the point is that information needs to be provided immediately. 

The info was provided shortly after the end of the auction - it just took the time to compile the list of winners on a spreadsheet and to generate an individual address for each one of the winners. It's not possible to provide that info "immediately", nor friedcat nor John are working for you. Your bid was binding, and you deserve a scammer tag and to be blacklisted for not honoring it. I'm fed up of people abusing the auction subforum.

Plus, you tried to pull a stunt re-selling for a huge premium some goods you did not even pay for, and for which you had no intention to pay if you did not find a buyer. I know that not honoring your bid breaks this forums rules - I don't know about the re-selling an item you don't own, but anyhow is shameful on your part.
hero member
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It didn't cause any problems for the legitimate bidders.
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