Topic: ASICMiner BE300S Samples Arrived, <0.2W/G Achieved at Board Level (Read 66471 times)

I can verify I heard this too from an inside source...the project is on hold until FC reappears

There was this posted it lee's group buy. Someone also said that friedcat goes quiet to try and solve issues before he comes out with the whole story.

 We're more concerned with where you got your information.

PS Happy birthday wifey!

Sorry I mistyped it . I  corrected typo .


I am  still a bit hungover from my wife's birthday party.

Source?

He seems to be paying for  his cloud mining adventure. I don't think we are going to see much if anything from his group in quite a while.

 

Recent events make you wonder if there was ever any independent verification of the success of BE300S.

Mystery in Bitcoinland…. the disappearance of FriedCat

http://www.btcreporter.com/2015/03/04/mystery-in-bitcoinland-the-disappearance-of-friedcat/

Can anyone confirm/deny?

So we know there are issues going on with ASICMiner at present. What's the word on the existence of these chips?

That's how they usually do it.

Most probably will came online in some time with the miner ready to be sold.

Juan

I've been unable to raise them for quite some time now. They're ether super busy or hunkering down.

This has been asked by others and me before, any info yet ?

No updates no estimated time?

HT

Depends on a lot of variables - miner topology (string vs VRM vs hybrid), volt/clock setpoint and PSU efficiency to name the most significant. I'd say anywhere between 0.2 and 0.4 are possibilities.

Did anyone have an estimate of the efficiency at the wall? Will be about 0.3W/G?

Tks

its not binary.  there are plenty of other options.   for instance designing the best possible chip that could be less than half the operating cost of the present sample.  other asic designers may have demonstrated power numbers well under the 0.2 J/GH of FC's current sample, but not in the same timeframe... so FC might be thinking one of the many options is to go with what he's got as its good enough and matches some of the announced competition's spec, but equally he could be thinking its worth taking time-out while the price of btc is low and there's no hurry on the next generation to come out, and he could take that time to design a more efficient chip that might take a few more months, and that would be better suited to our present market conditions, etc.

its also incorrect to say that either the price goes up or it dies.  there's plenty of business opportunities that don't care about the price of bitcoin to succeed, and most people on these forums always say not to worry about the price of bitcoin.. for instance, one of the near-term potential businesses is the remittance market.  a specific example use case: lets say there's a nanny from the Philippines who works abroad and wants to send money home to her family.  right now its western union or some other expensive money sending options.  a specialised remittance company could utilise bitcoin transparently as the payment rails, and offer her the facility to send person to person money across country boundaries, by matching the transaction via an exchange at both ends, and allowing the nanny to send dollars in one end, and have Philippine local currency come out at the other end for their family... and yet, the nanny hasn't had to know anything about bitcoin, nor even be aware it was being used by the remittance service company... and said company has done all of that for her, and taken no currency risk nor had to hold the bitcoins for longer than milliseconds...  just long enough to do the exchange conversion at each end.  the result, much lower cost remittances without any knowledge of what bitcoin is for either sender nor receiver.

sounds good ! hope i get my  moolah in time to invest in some !

it's just a case of the usual schizophrenia...  between fc's announcements... his announcements are meds against certain forum member's schizophrenic panics and FUD.
the longer fc spends time working and not posting here (on every demand), the more numerous are the outburst of schizophrenia here... it never fails.
now, i'm not diagnosing or labeling anyone with schizophrenia, just using the word to describe crowd behavior here... so don't take it personal... just making a point...

this isn't a case of friedcat not knowing what he's doing.  Of course he knows what he's doing, which is WHY he might not have placed a huge multi million dollar order at a time when bitcoin is very low priced.  He may be waiting to see what happens to the price of bitcoin, and he may also be tweaking the design, after seeing the sample chips, to make it as good as it can be before he hits the button on producing millions of them.

im not in any way accusing FC of not knowing what he's doing.  quite the contrary, he KNOWS what he's doing, so he may not have taped out yet.  The economics for spending millions making a new bitcoin mining chip are a much tougher decision today than ever in the last 18 months.

If the man in the street can buy bitcoins, at retail, for less than it costs to mine them... then you've seriously got to question whether its worth producing mining chips and other equipment.

and its a different decision for cloud mining as the economics are different if the product isn't intended to be sold at retail and can be operated in a low cost geo location (iceland etc) and host them them at scale to bring the cost down.  but then, everyone is not keen on cloud mining right now as there are too many scams and not enough evidence of actual mining going on.