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sr. member
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September 12, 2013, 07:06:34 AM
I see this stock is pretty huge in terms on market cap.

Is this a 1 man run operation? What if this Friedcat dude dies? Will stock tank or what?

Can anyone see who are the people behind this ASICMiner? How many people are involved in this operation?

Welcome to the party. Can you please read around before you waste our time checking the thread and fining this instead of good information and arguments..

I have checked the original ASICminer thread and there are no clear answers to any of my questions.

So here is some speculation for you: If friedcat dies there's a good chance this stock will go to zero.

Also this guy's associates are not listed anywhere. Guy just posted in his thread that his friends are involved and that's that.
Quote
"Q: What about your partners?
A: They are my friends also located in China. I know them in person, trust
them myself in person. They are enthusiastic to this project and already commited a lot of hard
work at their best to make it succeed."
Why not give some names, references and so on?

Friedcat mentioned some measures are in place in case somebody get hit by a bus.
For the names, AM is not trustful to shareholders now because of names, references and so on, but because it fulfills its promises. If you're not happy with that, don't buy shares. Period.


Bernard Madoff fulfilled his promises for quite some time. But thanks for the info. That pretty much answers my questions.

Guess I won't touch this stock. You have to basically hope this guy will still be alive or doing his thing tomorrow or day after that and that he does indeed have backups in place and that those backups he has are trustworthy. In my book hope is not an investment strategy but to each his own. "I am more concerned with the return of my money than the return on my money.".

Fact that he's located in China also doesn't inspire much confidence. Just ask Sino-Forest investors and they'll tell you why.

I also see dividends have been falling lately without clear explanation as to why and one friedcat provided was not too convincing.
It is the same for almost every bitcoin stock. Remember, the biggest securities fraud in bitcoin history, by piratesat40 was done by an American who never even hid his real name.  In bitcoin world all you have is your reputation and track record.  There are very few in the same trust league as Friedcat such as John K, Dooglus, theymos and Burnside. if you not going to trust these people, then you cannot invest in any bitcoin securities since there is nothing better from a trust perspective out there.

That pirate guy you've mentioned now risks some serious jail time. So fact that he revealed his named provided a level of accountability. He will now pay for scamming people. He will also have to carry that reputation for all his life. Same can't be said though about those who don't reveal their own or their associates' identity.

I have to say though, I am amazed by the level of trust I've seen in this community. The market cap of this stock is good  example.
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September 12, 2013, 07:00:15 AM
I see this stock is pretty huge in terms on market cap.

Is this a 1 man run operation? What if this Friedcat dude dies? Will stock tank or what?

Can anyone see who are the people behind this ASICMiner? How many people are involved in this operation?

Welcome to the party. Can you please read around before you waste our time checking the thread and fining this instead of good information and arguments..

I have checked the original ASICminer thread and there are no clear answers to any of my questions.

So here is some speculation for you: If friedcat dies there's a good chance this stock will go to zero.

Also this guy's associates are not listed anywhere. Guy just posted in his thread that his friends are involved and that's that.
Quote
"Q: What about your partners?
A: They are my friends also located in China. I know them in person, trust
them myself in person. They are enthusiastic to this project and already commited a lot of hard
work at their best to make it succeed."
Why not give some names, references and so on?

Friedcat mentioned some measures are in place in case somebody get hit by a bus.
For the names, AM is not trustful to shareholders now because of names, references and so on, but because it fulfills its promises. If you're not happy with that, don't buy shares. Period.


Bernard Madoff fulfilled his promises for quite some time. But thanks for the info. That pretty much answers my questions.

Guess I won't touch this stock. You have to basically hope this guy will still be alive or doing his thing tomorrow or day after that and that he does indeed have backups in place and that those backups he has are trustworthy. In my book hope is not an investment strategy but to each his own. "I am more concerned with the return of my money than the return on my money.".

Fact that he's located in China also doesn't inspire much confidence. Just ask Sino-Forest investors and they'll tell you why.

I also see dividends have been falling lately without clear explanation as to why and one friedcat provided was not too convincing.
It is the same for almost every bitcoin stock. Remember, the biggest securities fraud in bitcoin history, by piratesat40 was done by an American who never even hid his real name.  In bitcoin world all you have is your reputation and track record.  There are very few in the same trust league as Friedcat such as John K, Dooglus, theymos and Burnside. if you not going to trust these people, then you cannot invest in any bitcoin securities since there is nothing better from a trust perspective out there.
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September 12, 2013, 06:57:05 AM
So the hash rate is markedly down for the last few days to 2%.  This is out of proportion to the total increase in network hash rate (meaning not a simple result of being diluted by other hash power added to the total network but also blades going offline).

Only three possibilities:
1. A catastrophic hardware failure (very bad news - we going to 1.5 - 2)
2. Moving hardware to a new location with better cooling/power infrastructure (slightly bad news since some coins lost in the meantime but a transient issue, may see a short-term small dip)
3. Blades being taking down to be replaced with new gen 2 blades (extremely good news, would mean a solid 2-3 month lead time on competitors and stock will be in the 5-6 range shortly if confirmed)

Anyone on the board of directors have some more information?
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September 12, 2013, 06:53:44 AM
I see this stock is pretty huge in terms on market cap.

Is this a 1 man run operation? What if this Friedcat dude dies? Will stock tank or what?

Can anyone see who are the people behind this ASICMiner? How many people are involved in this operation?

Welcome to the party. Can you please read around before you waste our time checking the thread and fining this instead of good information and arguments..

I have checked the original ASICminer thread and there are no clear answers to any of my questions.

So here is some speculation for you: If friedcat dies there's a good chance this stock will go to zero.

Also this guy's associates are not listed anywhere. Guy just posted in his thread that his friends are involved and that's that.
Quote
"Q: What about your partners?
A: They are my friends also located in China. I know them in person, trust
them myself in person. They are enthusiastic to this project and already commited a lot of hard
work at their best to make it succeed."
Why not give some names, references and so on?

Friedcat mentioned some measures are in place in case somebody get hit by a bus.
For the names, AM is not trustful to shareholders now because of names, references and so on, but because it fulfills its promises. If you're not happy with that, don't buy shares. Period.


Bernard Madoff fulfilled his promises for quite some time. But thanks for the info. That pretty much answers my questions.

Guess I won't touch this stock. You have to basically hope this guy will still be alive or doing his thing tomorrow or day after that and that he does indeed have backups in place and that those backups he has are trustworthy. In my book hope is not an investment strategy but to each his own. "I am more concerned with the return of my money than the return on my money.".

Fact that he's located in China also doesn't inspire much confidence. Just ask Sino-Forest investors and they'll tell you why.

I also see dividends have been falling lately without clear explanation as to why and one friedcat provided was not too convincing.
legendary
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Still wild and free
September 12, 2013, 06:37:42 AM
I see this stock is pretty huge in terms on market cap.

Is this a 1 man run operation? What if this Friedcat dude dies? Will stock tank or what?

Can anyone see who are the people behind this ASICMiner? How many people are involved in this operation?

Welcome to the party. Can you please read around before you waste our time checking the thread and fining this instead of good information and arguments..

I have checked the original ASICminer thread and there are no clear answers to any of my questions.

So here is some speculation for you: If friedcat dies there's a good chance this stock will go to zero.

Also this guy's associates are not listed anywhere. Guy just posted in his thread that his friends are involved and that's that.
Quote
"Q: What about your partners?
A: They are my friends also located in China. I know them in person, trust
them myself in person. They are enthusiastic to this project and already commited a lot of hard
work at their best to make it succeed."
Why not give some names, references and so on?

Friedcat mentioned some measures are in place in case somebody get hit by a bus.
For the names, AM is not trustful to shareholders now because of names, references and so on, but because it fulfills its promises. If you're not happy with that, don't buy shares. Period.
sr. member
Activity: 294
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September 12, 2013, 06:32:13 AM
I see this stock is pretty huge in terms on market cap.

Is this a 1 man run operation? What if this Friedcat dude dies? Will stock tank or what?

Can anyone see who are the people behind this ASICMiner? How many people are involved in this operation?

Welcome to the party. Can you please read around before you waste our time checking the thread and fining this instead of good information and arguments..

I have checked the original ASICminer thread and there are no clear answers to any of my questions.

So here is some speculation for you: If friedcat dies there's a good chance this stock will go to zero.

Also this guy's associates are not listed anywhere. Guy just posted in his thread that his friends are involved and that's that.
Quote
"Q: What about your partners?
A: They are my friends also located in China. I know them in person, trust
them myself in person. They are enthusiastic to this project and already commited a lot of hard
work at their best to make it succeed."
Why not give some names, references and so on?
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Unlimited Free Crypto
September 12, 2013, 06:22:36 AM
I see this stock is pretty huge in terms on market cap.

Is this a 1 man run operation? What if this Friedcat dude dies? Will stock tank or what?

Can anyone see who are the people behind this ASICMiner? How many people are involved in this operation?

Welcome to the party. Can you please read around before you waste our time checking the thread and fining this instead of good information and arguments..
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 12, 2013, 06:20:53 AM
I see this stock is pretty huge in terms on market cap.

Is this a 1 man run operation? What if this Friedcat dude dies? Will stock tank or what?

Can anyone see who are the people behind this ASICMiner? How many people are involved in this operation?
sr. member
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September 12, 2013, 06:20:40 AM
This hashrate decrease is beginning to worry me...


AM just found a block. Fist one in 16 hours.

it looks like we are stuck on some 17TH/s (according to runeks.dk/bitcoin)

1.5% on the 36h... This is miserable...


Removing old blades to make room for new?

Maybe cooling data center little bit
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September 12, 2013, 06:17:48 AM
This hashrate decrease is beginning to worry me...


AM just found a block. Fist one in 16 hours.

it looks like we are stuck on some 17TH/s (according to runeks.dk/bitcoin)

1.5% on the 36h... This is miserable...


Removing old blades to make room for new?
legendary
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Still wild and free
September 12, 2013, 06:15:21 AM
This hashrate decrease is beginning to worry me...


AM just found a block. Fist one in 16 hours.

it looks like we are stuck on some 17TH/s (according to runeks.dk/bitcoin)

1.5% on the 36h... This is miserable...
sr. member
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September 12, 2013, 04:26:37 AM
This hashrate decrease is beginning to worry me...


AM just found a block. Fist one in 16 hours.

it looks like we are stuck on some 17TH/s (according to runeks.dk/bitcoin)
sr. member
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September 12, 2013, 04:06:28 AM
This hashrate decrease is beginning to worry me...


AM just found a block. Fist one in 16 hours.
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cryptoshark
September 12, 2013, 04:05:43 AM
This hashrate decrease is beginning to worry me...


that means friedcat is replacing hardware or changing farm location...

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bitcoin hodler
September 12, 2013, 04:01:51 AM
This hashrate decrease is beginning to worry me...
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September 12, 2013, 02:23:58 AM
I think your estimates on profit margins are a bit off. 75% leaves something in the order of US5mil outgoing first year. Sounds high to me.
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
September 12, 2013, 02:09:01 AM
Well if you were just talking about bitcoin mining, and 10 year projections, you're brave.

So brave.
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September 12, 2013, 02:04:46 AM
Well if you were just talking about bitcoin mining, and 10 year projections, you're brave.
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
September 12, 2013, 02:00:52 AM
Don't overestimate the similarities between a hole in the ground and crunching blocks.

I'm not sure what you mean... they are indeed very different. There's no (practical) limit on the amount of gold you can pull out of the ground, as long as the price is high enough to justify the money you're spending to do it.

Bitcoin mining has an absolute, immutable limit (plus tx fees, and I have explained why I believe are reasonable to ignore). Expanding the business is just trying to take market share from your competition, unlike opening a new mine. Attempting to expand has the side-effect of reducing profit margins for everyone.

Also, gold mining is unambiguously legal. We shall see what kind of regulation BTC mining gets.
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September 12, 2013, 01:56:41 AM
Don't overestimate the similarities between a hole in the ground and crunching blocks.
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