Topic: ASICMINER Speculation Thread - page 235. (Read 808768 times)
They probably shipped over 500 orders since lots of orders are not on that list at all, but it's still going to take a LONG time to get through the 18 thousand orders in the queue.
That would be impressive if it wasn't for this wall of Undelivered Orders
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Hoooleee crap!
On this list we have 4000 orders totalling 400TH/s but this list is not exhaustive - if you look at the order numbers we can guesstimate that the actual list is around 18000 orders which would be about 1800 TH/s!
Of course in 12 months they haven't even delivered 200 orders so clearing this backlog will take us to 2019
If you bothered counting the number of orders delivered, you'd find that they have shipped over 200. Why lie about things which are so easily proven false?
I just counted them and the exact number of delivered orders on that list is.... (drum roll) 169
Oh snap! Nigga you got TOLD!
Since we know that they've shipped the Jalapeno orders up to and including the 2012/09/07, you can add another 36 orders to that number. There are 30 Singles orders for 2012/06/23, so once they reach the orders from the 24th you can add another 30 to the list of delivered. They've also shipped 5 Minirigs.
So, they've shipped at least 209 orders.
We're just teasing Mabsark 
170 order, 210 orders, what's the difference really? The point is that BFL isn't all that good at delivering... well anything.
170 order, 210 orders, what's the difference really? The point is that BFL isn't all that good at delivering... well anything. 
I just counted them and the exact number of delivered orders on that list is.... (drum roll) 169
Oh snap! Nigga you got TOLD!
Nice one! Hey, Mabsark, how does your pride taste?
hahahahaha
so, let's see, under 200 orders, OMG, they might become an AM competitor in what, 34 years?
Yes, I was wrong, I was remembering the number of Jalapenos shipped, not the orders. It doesn't bother me in the slightest that I was wrong. I admit I was wrong and stand corrected. What of it?
It just means you need to research before posting unresearched information and be ready to back your arguments
I just counted them and the exact number of delivered orders on that list is.... (drum roll) 169
Oh snap! Nigga you got TOLD!
Nice one! Hey, Mabsark, how does your pride taste?
hahahahaha
so, let's see, under 200 orders, OMG, they might become an AM competitor in what, 34 years?
Yes, I was wrong, I was remembering the number of Jalapenos shipped, not the orders. It doesn't bother me in the slightest that I was wrong. I admit I was wrong and stand corrected. What of it?
Perhaps try to have a higher standard of factual basis before you post.
I think some of you guys are thinking about it wrong.. saying current share price is overvalued.
ASICMINER will sell the USB miners at a much higher volume now that they are more attractively priced. I think dividends from USB sales are going to be through the roof the next couple months.
And, they can always expand the farm at cost of manufacturing (pennies to the dollar versus their competitors), so it is doubtful that ASICMINER falls below its current percentage of the network much.
ASICMINER will sell the USB miners at a much higher volume now that they are more attractively priced. I think dividends from USB sales are going to be through the roof the next couple months.
And, they can always expand the farm at cost of manufacturing (pennies to the dollar versus their competitors), so it is doubtful that ASICMINER falls below its current percentage of the network much.
I just counted them and the exact number of delivered orders on that list is.... (drum roll) 169
Oh snap! Nigga you got TOLD!
Nice one! Hey, Mabsark, how does your pride taste?
hahahahaha
so, let's see, under 200 orders, OMG, they might become an AM competitor in what, 34 years?
Yes, I was wrong, I was remembering the number of Jalapenos shipped, not the orders. It doesn't bother me in the slightest that I was wrong. I admit I was wrong and stand corrected. What of it?
You're counting orders, not devices.
Correct, I never claimed otherwise. Quote
... they haven't even delivered 200 orders ...
Quote
... exact number of delivered orders ...
I just counted them and the exact number of delivered orders on that list is.... (drum roll) 169
Oh snap! Nigga you got TOLD!
Nice one! Hey, Mabsark, how does your pride taste?
hahahahaha
so, let's see, under 200 orders, OMG, they might become an AM competitor in what, 34 years?
That would be impressive if it wasn't for this wall of Undelivered Orders
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Hoooleee crap!
On this list we have 4000 orders totalling 400TH/s but this list is not exhaustive - if you look at the order numbers we can guesstimate that the actual list is around 18000 orders which would be about 1800 TH/s!
Of course in 12 months they haven't even delivered 200 orders so clearing this backlog will take us to 2019
If you bothered counting the number of orders delivered, you'd find that they have shipped over 200. Why lie about things which are so easily proven false?
I just counted them and the exact number of delivered orders on that list is.... (drum roll) 169
Oh snap! Nigga you got TOLD!
Now I'm going to have to go and count them again.
You're counting orders, not devices. Even that one lab_rat order in your screenshot was for two devices...
http://i.imgur.com/qorOH5y.png
You sir, just got owned
Now go contribute to the list and find 32 more reference cases
You sir, just got owned
Now go contribute to the list and find 32 more reference cases
That would be impressive if it wasn't for this wall of Undelivered Orders
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Hoooleee crap!
On this list we have 4000 orders totalling 400TH/s but this list is not exhaustive - if you look at the order numbers we can guesstimate that the actual list is around 18000 orders which would be about 1800 TH/s!
Of course in 12 months they haven't even delivered 200 orders so clearing this backlog will take us to 2019
If you bothered counting the number of orders delivered, you'd find that they have shipped over 200. Why lie about things which are so easily proven false?
I just counted them and the exact number of delivered orders on that list is.... (drum roll) 169
Oh snap! Nigga you got TOLD!
Now I'm going to have to go and count them again.
That would be impressive if it wasn't for this wall of Undelivered Orders
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Hoooleee crap!
On this list we have 4000 orders totalling 400TH/s but this list is not exhaustive - if you look at the order numbers we can guesstimate that the actual list is around 18000 orders which would be about 1800 TH/s!
Of course in 12 months they haven't even delivered 200 orders so clearing this backlog will take us to 2019
If you bothered counting the number of orders delivered, you'd find that they have shipped over 200. Why lie about things which are so easily proven false?
I just counted them and the exact number of delivered orders on that list is.... (drum roll) 169
Oh snap! Nigga you got TOLD!
Now I'm going to have to go and count them again.
Edit: Yes, you were right. The number I was remembering was the number of Jalapenos shipped, as some of the orders are for multiple unit.
That would be impressive if it wasn't for this wall of Undelivered Orders
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Hoooleee crap!
On this list we have 4000 orders totalling 400TH/s but this list is not exhaustive - if you look at the order numbers we can guesstimate that the actual list is around 18000 orders which would be about 1800 TH/s!
Of course in 12 months they haven't even delivered 200 orders so clearing this backlog will take us to 2019
If you bothered counting the number of orders delivered, you'd find that they have shipped over 200. Why lie about things which are so easily proven false?
Well why say theirs competition now when you have a backlog that still's in 2012
Being made with hairdryers XD
I'm not saying there's competition now. I'm saying the competition is starting to arrive and it's going to arrive in huge numbers. I'm also saying that because there hasn't been any real competition so far and wont be any for another month or two due to back orders, AM dividends and share prices are inflated above their actual worth. They'll fall once there's competition on the shelves.
I wouldn't say huge numbers at all.
I keep track of the developments and their is nothing that indicate huge production potential except Klondikes project through Chinese dev teams.
A month or two on BFL is pretty much an impossibility since they have been stuck on 2 weeks forever
It's like measuring Valve time
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
If you bothered counting the number of orders delivered, you'd find that they have shipped over 200. Why lie about things which are so easily proven false?
I didn't count them, would have taken several minutes of my life that I'd never get back. I just guessed. Did you count them? What did you get?I counted them the other week and I think there was 209 orders delivered. It was definitely in the 200s though.
That would be impressive if it wasn't for this wall of Undelivered Orders
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Hoooleee crap!
On this list we have 4000 orders totalling 400TH/s but this list is not exhaustive - if you look at the order numbers we can guesstimate that the actual list is around 18000 orders which would be about 1800 TH/s!
Of course in 12 months they haven't even delivered 200 orders so clearing this backlog will take us to 2019
If you bothered counting the number of orders delivered, you'd find that they have shipped over 200. Why lie about things which are so easily proven false?
I just counted them and the exact number of delivered orders on that list is.... (drum roll) 169
Oh snap! Nigga you got TOLD!
That would be impressive if it wasn't for this wall of Undelivered Orders
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Did I mention thats over 4000
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
Hoooleee crap!
On this list we have 4000 orders totalling 400TH/s but this list is not exhaustive - if you look at the order numbers we can guesstimate that the actual list is around 18000 orders which would be about 1800 TH/s!
Of course in 12 months they haven't even delivered 200 orders so clearing this backlog will take us to 2019
If you bothered counting the number of orders delivered, you'd find that they have shipped over 200. Why lie about things which are so easily proven false?
Well why say theirs competition now when you have a backlog that still's in 2012
Being made with hairdryers XD
I'm not saying there's competition now. I'm saying the competition is starting to arrive and it's going to arrive in huge numbers. I'm also saying that because there hasn't been any real competition so far and wont be any for another month or two due to back orders, AM dividends and share prices are inflated above their actual worth. They'll fall once there's competition on the shelves.
Should also mention how much a bitcoin was worth 1 year ago and if you'll ever get that back
So, even if you did have to wait another year for your BFL miner to arrive, you'd still make far more profit from a BFL miner over an AM share. Face it, you need to go back to school and learn how to do basic maths.
I think you are the one that needs to learn math.
Profit from placing an order a year ago with BFL: BTC0
Profit from purchasing AM share at IPO: 3.4+.32 = BTC3.72 (ignores huge increase in BTC value)
0 < 3.72
Actually. Profit from placing an order for BFL 1 year ago is:
Cost: 149 USD
Hash rate: 4.5 Gh/s
Shipping: 2013/05/18
Delivery: 2013/05/25
Difficulties:
2013/05/25 - 2013/06/05 = 12,153,412
2013/06/05 - 2013/06/16 = 15,605,633
20313/06/16 - current = 19,507,041
Income:
2013/05/25 - 2013/06/05 = 0.1862 BTC per day * 11 days = 2.0482 BTC
2013/06/05 - 2013/06/16 = 0.1450 BTC per day * 11 days = 1.595 BTC
20313/06/16 - current = 0.1170 BTC per day * 8 days = 0.936 BTC
Total = 4.5792 BTC = 457.92 USD @ 100 USD/BTC
Electricity costs:
35W
0.2 USD per kWh
Daily cost = 0.35 * 24 * 0.2 = 0.168 USD
Total usage cost = 0.168 * 30 = 5.04 USD
Profit = 457.92 - 274 - 5.04 = 178.88 USD = 1.7888 BTC @ 100 USD/BTC
If you order from BFL now you risk that they will have their asses sued of them by everyone who ordered a Minirig. Which never shipped and the replacement product has 1/3 the hash power and is 3 times as expensive. I wouldn't pre-order from a company with such an uncertain future no matter how good their product is.
If you bothered counting the number of orders delivered, you'd find that they have shipped over 200. Why lie about things which are so easily proven false?
I didn't count them, would have taken several minutes of my life that I'd never get back. I just guessed. Did you count them? What did you get? Jump to: