Consider:
Many people are still feeling the burn from Neo & Bee, Labcoin, (And now ActiveMining unfortunately) Along with Mt. Gox, many are probably completely done with Securities and others are probably itching to make their money back. AsicMiner being the known security to actually make money for its shareholders (along with Just-Dice).
Also Consider:
People in BTC securities are not investors. That said APR, etc.. (I personally don't think) are the most accurate ways to determine what the share price will reach. Yes it will be a way to accurately deduce the appropriate value of a share, but it won't be accurate of the real selling/buying value due to the weird array of characters in this sphere.
If AsicMiner starts paying divs, and companies like HashRatio, Rock, etc.. start selling profitable chips then the share price will increase substantially, not only that but it will be very very very fast/quick to increase as the entire market price right now seems to be based on Havelock. (Which is just a mere 25K of 400k shares). So going from .3BTC a share to say 1 or 2BTC a share will be a very fast climb compared to what it was last summer/fall when there was Bitfunder/BTCT, etc..
That said, I have no idea what the share price will end up reaching but I do know that if someone where to buy shares today, they will be able to sell them for more later. From the information from both Jutarul, FC, and seeing information from Rockie, etc.. I can't see how the share price won't shoot far higher than .24BTC off of news alone. Once that first Div hits I think the price will skyrocket.
Topic: ASICMINER Speculation Thread - page 32. (Read 808847 times)
Ppl over there in main thread calculated that the profit from selling 60ph of chips, retaining 1/3 for gen4, is about 0.0676 btc/share. If paid weekly from 30th March (12x), that would be 0.0056/share per week.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it-99497
If using the 33% yield we were used to base the share price on havelock, that would put shares at 0.87.
I think 33% yield is a little steep. If AM starts cranking out manufacturing and mining dividends as expected, sooner or later some confidence in the company should return, perhaps lowering the yield to the 20-25% range, with a corresponding increase in price. To repeat something I heard last year, AM could be one of the only blue chip stocks.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it-99497
If using the 33% yield we were used to base the share price on havelock, that would put shares at 0.87.
Since we have several weeks before anything is planned to happen...........Speculation time!
In a base case scenario of AM returning 0.15BTC /share from all Gen3 (chips sales / franchise+self mining + anything else), a 10% APR would give us 1.5BTC/share. Last year the market was setting a much higher APR, however I wonder if the success of a Gen3 launch in addition to a competitive and funded Gen4 roadmap would change that. Investors seeing two planned generations (4 & 5) from the company as well as other endeavours may build long term confidence. Settling for a lower ROI and crowning AM as a blue chip investment in bitcoin securities.
Last year shareholders were enacting large sell walls on the Auction forum in an attempt to keep the share price from rising too fast. With a full year of new investors in the market and an increase in the number of AM shares on Havelock, trading could look much different as well. If the market has an over-valuation period this summer to the 'good times' like it has seen in the under-valuation department to some perceived 'bad news', 1.5BTC+/share could be seen. A range of 1-1.5BTC /share seems likely. Keep in mind we were perched at 0.5 BTC/share weeks ago in anticipation of the dividend, which now appears to be bigger than most expected albeit somewhat delayed.
Would love to hear others constructive thoughts and speculations on the above. AM truly does appear to be one of the very few securities with a medium to long-term vision this early into cryptocurrency.
There are a lot more shares now on Havelock than back in the summer of 2013.
More buyers too, if there is anything to this growth model business...
There are a lot more shares now on Havelock than back in the summer of 2013. That may keep the price lower, as well. Also, people now know that even FC may hit patches were there's no 4-digits% increase per month.
Ppl over there in main thread calculated that the profit from selling 60ph of chips, retaining 1/3 for gen4, is about 0.0676 btc/share. If paid weekly from 30th March (12x), that would be 0.0056/share per week.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it-99497
If using the 33% yield we were used to base the share price on havelock, that would put shares at 0.87.
I think 33% yield is a little steep. If AM starts cranking out manufacturing and mining dividends as expected, sooner or later some confidence in the company should return, perhaps lowering the yield to the 20-25% range, with a corresponding increase in price. To repeat something I heard last year, AM could be one of the only blue chip stocks. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it-99497
If using the 33% yield we were used to base the share price on havelock, that would put shares at 0.87.
Ppl over there in main thread calculated that the profit from selling 60ph of chips, retaining 1/3 for gen4, is about 0.0676 btc/share. If paid weekly from 30th March (12x), that would be 0.0056/share per week.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it-99497
If using the 33% yield we were used to base the share price on havelock, that would put shares at 0.87.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it-99497
If using the 33% yield we were used to base the share price on havelock, that would put shares at 0.87.
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Where are the whales?
Think the site was down so long they took a break and decided to come back later
Anyways the sales orders will probally start getting pulled in a few more hours its rare for Friedcat to post consecutively twice in 2 weeks
Today's update was the most we've heard from FC in ages and was a breath of fresh air. Adequate assurances all around, which is what I needed.
I agree, slamming 20 questions into the questions for this round definitely satisfied my confidence it also crashed havelock again
Lol.
Maybe too many bulls or is it panic selling (Kid)
These dump-attempts are cute.
Who in his right mind would sell to bids in an uptrending market?!
Keep on trying and get burned! ^^
Who in his right mind would sell to bids in an uptrending market?!
Keep on trying and get burned! ^^
Where are the whales?
eheh now nobody is selling to those ridiculous bids anymore ^^
I wonder when the people will realize what is going on and eventually pull their old sales orders...
Today's update was the most we've heard from FC in ages and was a breath of fresh air. Adequate assurances all around, which is what I needed.
As far as price perhaps we won't see a big spike until there's some shareholder-level economic activity. But in the meanwhile a slow climb to 0.65 wouldn't shock me (although it'd be a pleasant surprise!).
As far as price perhaps we won't see a big spike until there's some shareholder-level economic activity. But in the meanwhile a slow climb to 0.65 wouldn't shock me (although it'd be a pleasant surprise!).
True or false: AM1 will breech 0.5 today on Havelock.
I say true, although it might be fleeting.
Anyone else?
I say true, although it might be fleeting.
Anyone else?
I think it's possible to hit near there, it's still a fairly valuable proposition at those prices considering the recent news. Plus people may want to buy back in quickly after the reassurance today
True or false: AM1 will breech 0.5 today on Havelock.
I say true, although it might be fleeting.
Anyone else?
I say false. I say true, although it might be fleeting.
Anyone else?
True or false: AM1 will breech 0.5 today on Havelock.
I say true, although it might be fleeting.
Anyone else?
I say true, although it might be fleeting.
Anyone else?
wont pass 0,5. i'd say somewhere near 0,4. same levels as before the dump until new update or first divs.
True or false: AM1 will breech 0.5 today on Havelock.
I say true, although it might be fleeting.
Anyone else?
I say true, although it might be fleeting.
Anyone else?
Simply put AM is a wait and see company in my opinion
From the strong result last year to a fundamentals company but with no cash to distribute one can look at it like a traditional non paying stock and try and value it based on just assets, which seems like what the market is doing at present.
From the strong result last year to a fundamentals company but with no cash to distribute one can look at it like a traditional non paying stock and try and value it based on just assets, which seems like what the market is doing at present.
It's definitely turned into that type of company.
I am confident in Friedcat.
Had to say this message was approved by Jesus
Surprisingly no one registered that name yet lol
Simply put AM is a wait and see company in my opinion
From the strong result last year to a fundamentals company but with no cash to distribute one can look at it like a traditional non paying stock and try and value it based on just assets, which seems like what the market is doing at present.
From the strong result last year to a fundamentals company but with no cash to distribute one can look at it like a traditional non paying stock and try and value it based on just assets, which seems like what the market is doing at present.
It's definitely turned into that type of company.
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Simply put AM is a wait and see company in my opinion
From the strong result last year to a fundamentals company but with no cash to distribute one can look at it like a traditional non paying stock and try and value it based on just assets, which seems like what the market is doing at present.
From the strong result last year to a fundamentals company but with no cash to distribute one can look at it like a traditional non paying stock and try and value it based on just assets, which seems like what the market is doing at present.
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