Topic: Avalon 8 official specs released - page 15. (Read 30297 times)
Now we wait 8 months for them to finish mining with them before they package them up and sell them to us
You will want to run them on a separate controller anyway. If they are all on the same controller you can never update the MM firmware because it is miner specific and the update process happens to all miners on the RPi at once, there is no way to selectively update.
The only difference so far is that you will need a PSU that has 8 - 6 pin connectors, and delivers more than 1200W. I think they are selling 1600W PSU's . Other than that it's the same setup as a 741
No reviews or how to guides yet. Best bet is to run your 821's on a new controller just for them.
No reviews or how to guides yet. Best bet is to run your 821's on a new controller just for them.
Is there a review everywhere explaining how to setup a Avalon 8?
The user does not interact with firmware. Setup should be exactly the same as the A7's. Quote
The response was that they use different firmware.
Is there a review everywhere explaining how to setup a Avalon 8?
Will the Controller for Avalon Miner 741 work with the 821 and Will you be able to hook up an A8 to an existing A7?
A while back Canaan said yes you can.But...
Caveat: As I found by mixing A721's and A741's, yes they work just fine together on 1 controller. BUT be very aware that if/when you apply firmware updates the update is specific to a particular model of Avalon and identified as being for 721,741, etc. Thing is, an update is applied to ALL miners on the controller. In my case the 721's did not like being told they were now 741's... Fortunately, easy to back out again.
So, best to not mix models on 1 controller... Since RasPi's are cheap, painless to do.
I sent them an email to see if you can mix and match 741's and 821's on 1 controller.
The response was that they use different firmware.
I take that to mean you won't be able to set the machines up on the same controller.
Like Notfuzzy said you should just have a 2nd controller ready to go to avoid downtime.
im interested with these new avalon miner but I have a question
does the 7 (i guess the 8 will have the same logic) push or pull the air from the fan
I use currently duct shroud for my s7 and would like to keep using this for my next avalon miner
thanks
does the 7 (i guess the 8 will have the same logic) push or pull the air from the fan
I use currently duct shroud for my s7 and would like to keep using this for my next avalon miner
thanks
It pulls air from the single fan.
To clarify: it pulls air from the opposite side (across the boards). The air is exiting on the side with the fan.
So this is what I should use for the 821? Assuming I can even get my hands on one...
https://www.parallelminer.com/product/platinum-94-1500-watt-power-supply-kit-for-2-a4-dominator-litecoin-miners-ltc-litecoin-100-240v/
https://www.parallelminer.com/product/platinum-94-1500-watt-power-supply-kit-for-2-a4-dominator-litecoin-miners-ltc-litecoin-100-240v/
Yea those would work fine. Just make sure if you go with a 2 psu setup for the avalon you only use one PSU per hashing board. If you mix the plugs you will fry the equipment.
Ok, so since the 821 has 2 boards with 4 6 pin plugs each, each PSU will have only 4 PCI cables running out it into one board for a total of 8 PCI cables going into the miner, 4 from each PSU? And of the 4 6 pin connectors on each PSU, which do the PCIs go in?
Thanks
So this is what I should use for the 821? Assuming I can even get my hands on one...
https://www.parallelminer.com/product/platinum-94-1500-watt-power-supply-kit-for-2-a4-dominator-litecoin-miners-ltc-litecoin-100-240v/
https://www.parallelminer.com/product/platinum-94-1500-watt-power-supply-kit-for-2-a4-dominator-litecoin-miners-ltc-litecoin-100-240v/
Yea those would work fine. Just make sure if you go with a 2 psu setup for the avalon you only use one PSU per hashing board. If you mix the plugs you will fry the equipment.
To all those talking about the PSUs, I never said go with a mining company cheapo PSU. I have personally experienced near 30% out of the box failure rates on Bitmain PSUs.
When you mine as a business or as your sole source of income, ancillary costs are very important to keep low.
EVGA 1600w 80+ Platinum PSU is $450
HP Server 80+ Platinum 2250-2450watt PSU can be had for around $60 and requires about $15 in cables and solder.
You are talking $50k in ATX to run 120 units versus under $10k
In the mining game you dont ever sell off your PSUs, you reinvest in newer hardware that can run off the same PSU as the old stuff. And since you have a PSU with 850w more power you have the flexibility to do things like run two Avalons off of one PSU thus cutting costs even more. Ill take my 60-65% loaded PSU right in its efficiency curve over an ATX PSU running at 90% load working much harder any day.
When you mine as a business or as your sole source of income, ancillary costs are very important to keep low.
EVGA 1600w 80+ Platinum PSU is $450
HP Server 80+ Platinum 2250-2450watt PSU can be had for around $60 and requires about $15 in cables and solder.
You are talking $50k in ATX to run 120 units versus under $10k
In the mining game you dont ever sell off your PSUs, you reinvest in newer hardware that can run off the same PSU as the old stuff. And since you have a PSU with 850w more power you have the flexibility to do things like run two Avalons off of one PSU thus cutting costs even more. Ill take my 60-65% loaded PSU right in its efficiency curve over an ATX PSU running at 90% load working much harder any day.
It would be a little more fair to compare to a pair of 850 watt PS at more like $300 on the ATX side - but the server power supplies still win the battle of economics *IF YOU ARE SURE YOU WILL BE MINING FOR SEVERAL YEARS*.
Or even reasonably sure.
On the other hand, when you already HAVE spare ATX power supplies, they win the economics battle as the have zero cost. 9-)
So this is what I should use for the 821? Assuming I can even get my hands on one...
https://www.parallelminer.com/product/platinum-94-1500-watt-power-supply-kit-for-2-a4-dominator-litecoin-miners-ltc-litecoin-100-240v/
To all those talking about the PSUs, I never said go with a mining company cheapo PSU. I have personally experienced near 30% out of the box failure rates on Bitmain PSUs.
When you mine as a business or as your sole source of income, ancillary costs are very important to keep low.
EVGA 1600w 80+ Platinum PSU is $450
HP Server 80+ Platinum 2250-2450watt PSU can be had for around $60 and requires about $15 in cables and solder.
You are talking $50k in ATX to run 120 units versus under $10k
In the mining game you dont ever sell off your PSUs, you reinvest in newer hardware that can run off the same PSU as the old stuff. And since you have a PSU with 850w more power you have the flexibility to do things like run two Avalons off of one PSU thus cutting costs even more. Ill take my 60-65% loaded PSU right in its efficiency curve over an ATX PSU running at 90% load working much harder any day.
When you mine as a business or as your sole source of income, ancillary costs are very important to keep low.
EVGA 1600w 80+ Platinum PSU is $450
HP Server 80+ Platinum 2250-2450watt PSU can be had for around $60 and requires about $15 in cables and solder.
You are talking $50k in ATX to run 120 units versus under $10k
In the mining game you dont ever sell off your PSUs, you reinvest in newer hardware that can run off the same PSU as the old stuff. And since you have a PSU with 850w more power you have the flexibility to do things like run two Avalons off of one PSU thus cutting costs even more. Ill take my 60-65% loaded PSU right in its efficiency curve over an ATX PSU running at 90% load working much harder any day.
It would be a little more fair to compare to a pair of 850 watt PS at more like $300 on the ATX side - but the server power supplies still win the battle of economics *IF YOU ARE SURE YOU WILL BE MINING FOR SEVERAL YEARS*.
Or even reasonably sure.
On the other hand, when you already HAVE spare ATX power supplies, they win the economics battle as the have zero cost. 9-)
The manufacturers work together more than against each other. It is in their best interests to not fight since there is more money than production capacity and it will be that way for the foreseeable future.
As for Bitmain -vs- Caanan pricing, I think the most recent sale of 741's on Blokforge to be instructive. They literally sold out in minutes. They had 100 units, and well over 1000 folks interested. They set a limit of 2 per order, and still disappointed a lot of folks.
With the current FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) attitude surrounding Bitcoin, there is plenty of money to go around, and neither Bitmain nor Caanan has any reason to engage in a price war. Both will sell all they can produce while BTC price holds up, and they are production constrained (probably by ASIC fab).
With the current FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) attitude surrounding Bitcoin, there is plenty of money to go around, and neither Bitmain nor Caanan has any reason to engage in a price war. Both will sell all they can produce while BTC price holds up, and they are production constrained (probably by ASIC fab).
To all those talking about the PSUs, I never said go with a mining company cheapo PSU. I have personally experienced near 30% out of the box failure rates on Bitmain PSUs.
When you mine as a business or as your sole source of income, ancillary costs are very important to keep low.
EVGA 1600w 80+ Platinum PSU is $450
HP Server 80+ Platinum 2250-2450watt PSU can be had for around $60 and requires about $15 in cables and solder.
You are talking $50k in ATX to run 120 units versus under $10k
In the mining game you dont ever sell off your PSUs, you reinvest in newer hardware that can run off the same PSU as the old stuff. And since you have a PSU with 850w more power you have the flexibility to do things like run two Avalons off of one PSU thus cutting costs even more. Ill take my 60-65% loaded PSU right in its efficiency curve over an ATX PSU running at 90% load working much harder any day.
When you mine as a business or as your sole source of income, ancillary costs are very important to keep low.
EVGA 1600w 80+ Platinum PSU is $450
HP Server 80+ Platinum 2250-2450watt PSU can be had for around $60 and requires about $15 in cables and solder.
You are talking $50k in ATX to run 120 units versus under $10k
In the mining game you dont ever sell off your PSUs, you reinvest in newer hardware that can run off the same PSU as the old stuff. And since you have a PSU with 850w more power you have the flexibility to do things like run two Avalons off of one PSU thus cutting costs even more. Ill take my 60-65% loaded PSU right in its efficiency curve over an ATX PSU running at 90% load working much harder any day.
Are Avalon's PSUs any better than Bitmain's? Also where can I find a tutorial on how to set up the HP PSU for an ASIC?
To all those talking about the PSUs, I never said go with a mining company cheapo PSU. I have personally experienced near 30% out of the box failure rates on Bitmain PSUs.
When you mine as a business or as your sole source of income, ancillary costs are very important to keep low.
EVGA 1600w 80+ Platinum PSU is $450
HP Server 80+ Platinum 2250-2450watt PSU can be had for around $60 and requires about $15 in cables and solder.
You are talking $50k in ATX to run 120 units versus under $10k
In the mining game you dont ever sell off your PSUs, you reinvest in newer hardware that can run off the same PSU as the old stuff. And since you have a PSU with 850w more power you have the flexibility to do things like run two Avalons off of one PSU thus cutting costs even more. Ill take my 60-65% loaded PSU right in its efficiency curve over an ATX PSU running at 90% load working much harder any day.
When you mine as a business or as your sole source of income, ancillary costs are very important to keep low.
EVGA 1600w 80+ Platinum PSU is $450
HP Server 80+ Platinum 2250-2450watt PSU can be had for around $60 and requires about $15 in cables and solder.
You are talking $50k in ATX to run 120 units versus under $10k
In the mining game you dont ever sell off your PSUs, you reinvest in newer hardware that can run off the same PSU as the old stuff. And since you have a PSU with 850w more power you have the flexibility to do things like run two Avalons off of one PSU thus cutting costs even more. Ill take my 60-65% loaded PSU right in its efficiency curve over an ATX PSU running at 90% load working much harder any day.
im interested with these new avalon miner but I have a question
does the 7 (i guess the 8 will have the same logic) push or pull the air from the fan
I use currently duct shroud for my s7 and would like to keep using this for my next avalon miner
thanks
does the 7 (i guess the 8 will have the same logic) push or pull the air from the fan
I use currently duct shroud for my s7 and would like to keep using this for my next avalon miner
thanks
It pulls air from the single fan.
To clarify: it pulls air from the opposite side (across the boards). The air is exiting on the side with the fan.
If you are using ATX power supplies you are so doing it wrong. People should know better by now.
We have over 120 EVGA 1600 Titaniums in our farm. They run our S7's, S9s, and Avalon 741's. They run our big GPU rigs. We can run our gear at 120v, 208v, 220v, or 240v. We push them pretty hard. They have a 10 year warranty, though we have never had a unit fail. We have units that have been in operation 24/7/365 for over 3 years without a lick of problems. We have run multiple generations of gear on them. If the next gen gear have different power requirements, we should be able to resell them used for close to or even what we paid for them, so they act as a store of value vs. a real operational expense. Granted our farm is very small, but I always thought standardizing our power gear with high end ATX PSU's as an investment and it has worked out very well so far. We can use any PSU in our farm to run any gear, and they do it well. Easy. And they are rock solid. We tried a batch of Bitmain's APW3 a few months ago, 12 units, and 2 were DOA right out of the box. I thought they were junk. I don't know, take all this with a grain, your mileage may vary, but I feel really good with those ATX's powering our gear. It's been worry free so far.
Not to mention I can't find Antminer or Avalon PSUs, but I can find the ATXs or at least know when I can get them from reputable websites. If it takes another month to get a non ATX psu versus having an ATX within a week then the cost difference will pay itself off.
im interested with these new avalon miner but I have a question
does the 7 (i guess the 8 will have the same logic) push or pull the air from the fan
I use currently duct shroud for my s7 and would like to keep using this for my next avalon miner
thanks
does the 7 (i guess the 8 will have the same logic) push or pull the air from the fan
I use currently duct shroud for my s7 and would like to keep using this for my next avalon miner
thanks
It pulls air from the single fan.
I was just thinking of another option which would be a dirty move.
If Bitmain really wanted to mess with Canaan they could under cut them and instead of releasing 1000-2000 units as a batch they could drip feed releases of around 100 S9 daily while they wait for more chips and then repeat the process over and over again so everyone is constantly waiting and trying to score a cheap s9's instead of 821's. ha ha
If Bitmain really wanted to mess with Canaan they could under cut them and instead of releasing 1000-2000 units as a batch they could drip feed releases of around 100 S9 daily while they wait for more chips and then repeat the process over and over again so everyone is constantly waiting and trying to score a cheap s9's instead of 821's. ha ha
This does not make sense for Bitmain from the operations point of view. Too much hassle, little gain.
Totally agree.
I was just working out a hypothetical way that Bitmain could hurt Canaan's release of the 821 in response to an earlier post.
Would be a totally silly to do this in reality.
I was just thinking of another option which would be a dirty move.
If Bitmain really wanted to mess with Canaan they could under cut them and instead of releasing 1000-2000 units as a batch they could drip feed releases of around 100 S9 daily while they wait for more chips and then repeat the process over and over again so everyone is constantly waiting and trying to score a cheap s9's instead of 821's. ha ha
If Bitmain really wanted to mess with Canaan they could under cut them and instead of releasing 1000-2000 units as a batch they could drip feed releases of around 100 S9 daily while they wait for more chips and then repeat the process over and over again so everyone is constantly waiting and trying to score a cheap s9's instead of 821's. ha ha
This does not make sense for Bitmain from the operations point of view. Too much hassle, little gain.
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