We still need more manufacturers.
Actually no... more manufacturers means more difficulty level
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Actually no... more manufacturers means more difficulty level
Will the Controller for Avalon Miner 741 work with the 821 and Will you be able to hook up an A8 to an existing A7?
A while back Canaan said yes you can.But...
Caveat: As I found by mixing A721's and A741's, yes they work just fine together on 1 controller. BUT be very aware that if/when you apply firmware updates the update is specific to a particular model of Avalon and identified as being for 721,741, etc. Thing is, an update is applied to ALL miners on the controller. In my case the 721's did not like being told they were now 741's... Fortunately, easy to back out again.
So, best to not mix models on 1 controller... Since RasPi's are cheap, painless to do.
Bitmain have just shown how that price point is acceptable to consumers by selling out so quickly.
I am pretty sure this was exactly the impression they wanted to give by selling out fast for whatever reason
I don't know, I haven't been in the mining game as long as some of you, but they didn't seem to sell out fast to me.
A few months ago, when they released a new batch of any miner, their website ground to a halt, and you could sit there refreshing for 1-2 hours, not actually add anything to your cart, and it would be sold out by the time the website was actually responding. The past few batches sit around for hours and hours (and sometimes days/weeks).
And while that price point might be acceptable, the 821 isn't the S9. The S9 has it beat on Watt/TH (by a little) and Price/TH (by a LOT) if they price it the same as the S9... for a machine with 20% less output. Honestly, if the 821 is over $2200, I would be shocked.
Bitmain have just shown how that price point is acceptable to consumers by selling out so quickly.
I am pretty sure this was exactly the impression they wanted to give by selling out fast for whatever reason
I don't know, I haven't been in the mining game as long as some of you, but they didn't seem to sell out fast to me.
A few months ago, when they released a new batch of any miner, their website ground to a halt, and you could sit there refreshing for 1-2 hours, not actually add anything to your cart, and it would be sold out by the time the website was actually responding. The past few batches sit around for hours and hours (and sometimes days/weeks).
And while that price point might be acceptable, the 821 isn't the S9. The S9 has it beat on Watt/TH (by a little) and Price/TH (by a LOT) if they price it the same as the S9... for a machine with 20% less output. Honestly, if the 821 is over $2200, I would be shocked.
Will the Controller for Avalon Miner 741 work with the 821 and Will you be able to hook up an A8 to an existing A7?
At this point no one knows for sure. The manufacturer has not stated anything about cross compatibility with their other platforms.
Bitmain have just shown how that price point is acceptable to consumers by selling out so quickly.
I am pretty sure this was exactly the impression they wanted to give by selling out fast for whatever reason
I think your right.
I expect the 821 to end up being ballpark $3000, possibly as LOW as $2500, based on current S9 pricing.
Caanan/Avalon has always had a price premium compared to whatever Bitmain product they're closest too, unless they were a TON lower on hashrate, and I don't see them pricing the 821 much if ANY lower than S9 since they're fairly close on hashrate and efficiency.
They might MATCH the price of the S9 due to the hashrate difference, but they won't go lower - Bitmain will tolerate "same price" most likely because they can point at the higher hashrate AND slightly better efficiency, but a lower price would probably prompt a price war.
I mean they told us how they were formulating the price in the press release. When I plug "my opinion of the numbers" into their "formula" (which by the way their formula makes perfect business sense) I come up with a ballpark of $3500 USD at the retail/disty level. I see maybe 3k/3.25k for bulk 60 unit pallets.
If coin price doesn't shrink to much farther, from what I am reading in their release that number makes sense. And honestly it will sell out FAST even at $3500, just look at the comments in some of the threads and how the newbs will pay "anything for them". If we believe they have a 10x supply/demand problem, coin price stabilizes high, they consider spot pricing of gear then $3500 would be my starting point!
We're talking about millions of dollars in sales if these companies are not employing professional sales people they are making a huge mistake. If they are the price is well thought out and internal numbers are analyzed and extrapolated to project a multitude of scenarios. This information will give them the best possible chance to maximize profits. When a professional sales exec has a 10x supply/demand ratio skew he is having a wet dream, trust me! He/She will make the most of it if he/she is any fucking good!
If coin price stays high expect 3k to be the best possible scenario. If coin prices go up whoa watch out, 4k will sound cheap. IMO
Bitmain have just shown how that price point is acceptable to consumers by selling out so quickly.
I am pretty sure this was exactly the impression they wanted to give by selling out fast for whatever reason
We still need more manufacturers.
I look forward to that day!
Will the Controller for Avalon Miner 741 work with the 821 and Will you be able to hook up an A8 to an existing A7?
We still need more manufacturers.
The 821 runs optimally on +12VDC.
The power supply that FEEDS it might require 220 VAC, or might be happy with 110 OR 220 but will run a little more efficiently at 220.
I expect the 821 to end up being ballpark $3000, possibly as LOW as $2500, based on current S9 pricing.
Caanan/Avalon has always had a price premium compared to whatever Bitmain product they're closest too, unless they were a TON lower on hashrate, and I don't see them pricing the 821 much if ANY lower than S9 since they're fairly close on hashrate and efficiency.
They might MATCH the price of the S9 due to the hashrate difference, but they won't go lower - Bitmain will tolerate "same price" most likely because they can point at the higher hashrate AND slightly better efficiency, but a lower price would probably prompt a price war.
The power supply that FEEDS it might require 220 VAC, or might be happy with 110 OR 220 but will run a little more efficiently at 220.
I expect the 821 to end up being ballpark $3000, possibly as LOW as $2500, based on current S9 pricing.
Caanan/Avalon has always had a price premium compared to whatever Bitmain product they're closest too, unless they were a TON lower on hashrate, and I don't see them pricing the 821 much if ANY lower than S9 since they're fairly close on hashrate and efficiency.
They might MATCH the price of the S9 due to the hashrate difference, but they won't go lower - Bitmain will tolerate "same price" most likely because they can point at the higher hashrate AND slightly better efficiency, but a lower price would probably prompt a price war.
Agreed.
I think the 821 will be between $2500 and $3,000.
Very close to the S9 price.
Bitmain have just shown how that price point is acceptable to consumers by selling out so quickly.
I don't think a price war will happen yet though because the demand is way too high for ASIC miners and they don't need to fight for sales....They can't make enough inventory to get even close to demand.
I just read on another post that Ebang's next miner will be 14TH/s priced at $3680 with minimum order of 100 units.
I don't know if that price is correct but if it is and they sell out very quickly that will send a message to Bitmain and Canaan that we still havent reached the roof on the price people are willing to pay.
Just my two cents.
The 821 runs optimally on +12VDC.
The power supply that FEEDS it might require 220 VAC, or might be happy with 110 OR 220 but will run a little more efficiently at 220.
I expect the 821 to end up being ballpark $3000, possibly as LOW as $2500, based on current S9 pricing.
Caanan/Avalon has always had a price premium compared to whatever Bitmain product they're closest too, unless they were a TON lower on hashrate, and I don't see them pricing the 821 much if ANY lower than S9 since they're fairly close on hashrate and efficiency.
They might MATCH the price of the S9 due to the hashrate difference, but they won't go lower - Bitmain will tolerate "same price" most likely because they can point at the higher hashrate AND slightly better efficiency, but a lower price would probably prompt a price war.
The power supply that FEEDS it might require 220 VAC, or might be happy with 110 OR 220 but will run a little more efficiently at 220.
I expect the 821 to end up being ballpark $3000, possibly as LOW as $2500, based on current S9 pricing.
Caanan/Avalon has always had a price premium compared to whatever Bitmain product they're closest too, unless they were a TON lower on hashrate, and I don't see them pricing the 821 much if ANY lower than S9 since they're fairly close on hashrate and efficiency.
They might MATCH the price of the S9 due to the hashrate difference, but they won't go lower - Bitmain will tolerate "same price" most likely because they can point at the higher hashrate AND slightly better efficiency, but a lower price would probably prompt a price war.
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The 821 runs optimally on +12VDC.
The power supply that FEEDS it might require 220 VAC, or might be happy with 110 OR 220 but will run a little more efficiently at 220.
I expect the 821 to end up being ballpark $3000, possibly as LOW as $2500, based on current S9 pricing.
Caanan/Avalon has always had a price premium compared to whatever Bitmain product they're closest too, unless they were a TON lower on hashrate, and I don't see them pricing the 821 much if ANY lower than S9 since they're fairly close on hashrate and efficiency.
They might MATCH the price of the S9 due to the hashrate difference, but they won't go lower - Bitmain will tolerate "same price" most likely because they can point at the higher hashrate AND slightly better efficiency, but a lower price would probably prompt a price war.
The power supply that FEEDS it might require 220 VAC, or might be happy with 110 OR 220 but will run a little more efficiently at 220.
I expect the 821 to end up being ballpark $3000, possibly as LOW as $2500, based on current S9 pricing.
Caanan/Avalon has always had a price premium compared to whatever Bitmain product they're closest too, unless they were a TON lower on hashrate, and I don't see them pricing the 821 much if ANY lower than S9 since they're fairly close on hashrate and efficiency.
They might MATCH the price of the S9 due to the hashrate difference, but they won't go lower - Bitmain will tolerate "same price" most likely because they can point at the higher hashrate AND slightly better efficiency, but a lower price would probably prompt a price war.
yeah understand that, so is the sorcerer the best psu to use with it? sorry im a newb to avalon only know a lot about bitmain stuff so far
The sorcerer PSU, is just the one that they offer and is spec'd to run 1 of the 821's.
You can look for other server PSU providers to find something that will also suit your needs, especially if you want to run 2 units off 1 PSU. If you search the hardware threads you will probably find some good advice on what would suit you best.
I've picked mine up from Amitylabs ebay store, I've heard others say good things about parallelminer.
yeah saw parallel miner looks pretty good, does the 821 run optimally on 220v or 110v? thank you man
yeah understand that, so is the sorcerer the best psu to use with it? sorry im a newb to avalon only know a lot about bitmain stuff so far
The sorcerer PSU, is just the one that they offer and is spec'd to run 1 of the 821's.
You can look for other server PSU providers to find something that will also suit your needs, especially if you want to run 2 units off 1 PSU. If you search the hardware threads you will probably find some good advice on what would suit you best.
I've picked mine up from Amitylabs ebay store, I've heard others say good things about parallelminer.
so the avalon 8 will be using the socerer psu? and does that connect to 220v only or 110v?
The avalon 8 does not come with a PSU
yeah understand that, so is the sorcerer the best psu to use with it? sorry im a newb to avalon only know a lot about bitmain stuff so far
so the avalon 8 will be using the socerer psu? and does that connect to 220v only or 110v?
The avalon 8 does not come with a PSU
so the avalon 8 will be using the socerer psu? and does that connect to 220v only or 110v?
So we are going to be seeing these sell out within minutes I take it? I hope the servers for the distributors are ready to handle the influx of incoming traffic.
I will be blessed to get a hold of one when they hit the market. Of course you will have your resellers profiting from this as well, so it will be interesting how inflated prices will be on the secondary market.
It would be great if BTC would take a pretty hard down swing just prior to the release
I will be blessed to get a hold of one when they hit the market. Of course you will have your resellers profiting from this as well, so it will be interesting how inflated prices will be on the secondary market.
It would be great if BTC would take a pretty hard down swing just prior to the release
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