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newbie
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March 28, 2024, 05:56:29 PM
#48
Hi guys.
Just received mine today !!
I’ve made an unboxing in video :
https://youtu.be/bvmfrs4DF0k?feature=shared

And a quick review on X. (A video is planed for tomorrow)
https://x.com/agrizzly_incity/status/1773465785005994102?s=61&t=MCp55hIIIZQMC-hVyqhjfA

Have fun with yours !!
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
March 24, 2024, 10:05:01 AM
#47
still waiting for mine.  they did send an email telling me shipping soon.

email was dated march 14th
newbie
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March 24, 2024, 09:39:58 AM
#46
Expecting mine in the next day or two as has arrived in my country from China with FedEx. Everyone else who preordered in a similar position? Will share first impressions when it arrives.
legendary
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February 14, 2024, 07:06:01 PM
#45
That being said, you can trust a company like Canaan much more than a brand-new start-up to actually deliver and send you your 'reward'.

Totally agree.

I only mentioned that the crowdfunding site was viable, because they questioned whether the site was viable to use. And in this the website itself is viable. What may not be the case is that the projects that are placed there are the responsibility of those who place them there. I've seen companies like Philips use this site for projects.

In this case, it is up to the user to evaluate the project and who is involved in it, to make their investment or not.


hero member
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not your keys, not your coins!
February 14, 2024, 06:20:22 PM
#44
This site is completely trustworthy. On this site you have to trust the seller. This is one of the biggest crowdfunding sites out there.
It may be one of the biggest crowdfunding sites, but these are notorious for being used by scammer vaporware salesmen. I.e. such sellers promise extraordinary products at incredible prices, but never ship. And there's nothing you can do about it, because legally you're not a 'buyer', but just a 'backer' of a project who gets a 'reward' for your generous donation, in case the project succeeds.
This failed many times with 3D printer projects about half a decade ago; more often than not, backers never got their printers.

I don't personally agree with big companies selling products via crowdfunding websites, because they are essentially just offloading their risk (of not being able to deliver) to buyers instead of taking it on themselves, while they clearly could.

That being said, you can trust a company like Canaan much more than a brand-new start-up to actually deliver and send you your 'reward'.
newbie
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February 08, 2024, 04:21:15 PM
#43
I also ordered one of these little boys... let's see after arriving how they will perform Smiley
For me it's just a lottery and heating my flat a bit Cheesy
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
February 04, 2024, 11:52:03 PM
#42
I ordered 1 today gave them $10 tip total cost $145 usd ships to me in 1 month or so.


newbie
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February 02, 2024, 04:39:45 AM
#41
And do you feel it release a lot of heat, or not at all?
140W max  Grin, so not much. A little lower than a goldshell box.
legendary
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February 01, 2024, 03:29:11 PM
#40
It is confirmed, the nano 3 will be compatible "out of the box" with solo pools !! Cheesy

And do you feel it release a lot of heat, or not at all?



To buy this miner, shall I buy it directly through here

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/avalon-nano-3-blockchain-smart-home#/

Says 120EUR includes PSU?

Is this website reliable?

Thanks

This site is completely trustworthy. On this site you have to trust the seller. This is one of the biggest crowdfunding sites out there.
full member
Activity: 256
Merit: 118
February 01, 2024, 11:16:36 AM
#39
The problem is with my energy cost, which is around €0.17/kWh. Do I think it will be viable? Undecided
It depends; if you have a shed or a small guest bathroom that is heated with electricity anyway for instance, you don't burn any more money when switching from a resistive to a 'semiconductor-based' electric heater.



I just checked their Indiegogo updates page and there was an update only a few minutes ago. They make the housing in other colors now, which I find unnecessary, but what's more exciting is that they finished making some demo units and started production.

To buy this miner, shall I buy it directly through here

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/avalon-nano-3-blockchain-smart-home#/

Says 120EUR includes PSU?

Is this website reliable?

Thanks
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 2
February 01, 2024, 10:48:33 AM
#38
It is confirmed, the nano 3 will be compatible "out of the box" with solo pools !! Cheesy
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
January 25, 2024, 11:56:41 PM
#37
...But if you want to stack coins with no kyc and have a need for heat a modded m50 or s19 is viable....

Even with the mods, unless you know something I don't, you still have to get 220V to wherever you want the heat.
I am using a modded S9 for heat in the back room of the condo at the moment, would love to do something faster / more efficient but it's all 120V without doing a bunch of work.

-Dave

If you get them under 1000 watts and I can. you can use a buck boost transformer.

the key is stay under 1000 watts.
legendary
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January 25, 2024, 01:42:30 PM
#36
...But if you want to stack coins with no kyc and have a need for heat a modded m50 or s19 is viable....

Even with the mods, unless you know something I don't, you still have to get 220V to wherever you want the heat.
I am using a modded S9 for heat in the back room of the condo at the moment, would love to do something faster / more efficient but it's all 120V without doing a bunch of work.

-Dave
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
January 25, 2024, 12:24:50 PM
#35
Okay I have a m50 with a dead dashboard   2200 watts and 75 th is 2200/75 = 29.3 watts a th

[...]

So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .

They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts   

they would be a decent home miner.

I will start a thread on this in a week
The efficiency figures look good, but I'm sure for anyone just getting started, this would be a much bigger initial investment (since you brought up the Avalon Nano 3 price) and ~10x higher power bill, right? I don't fully get your point about the price.

We should keep in mind that if someone's 'losing' money compared to DCA with a 29J/TH 100W Avalon, they're going to lose proportionally as much with a 29J/TH M50.
I.e. if you pay $15 in electricity for $9 in BTC with the Nano 3, you're at a -40% loss, but it's just 6 bucks; with 8x the power and hashrate, you pay $120 a month for $72 in BTC ($48 loss) - same proportionally, but a lot more real money 'lost' each month.

Absolutely have a large miner scaled back will be essentially worthless to many.

If you want to mine in your home and are over 20 cents usd a kwatt the Nano pointed to solo ckpool makes sense.

But if you want to stack coins with no kyc and have a need for heat a modded m50 or s19 is viable.

I have a s19 braiins controller from Altairtech.io

https://altairtech.io/product/bcb/

I have a s19 offline in home for testing and repair.

I will get it online today and start a thread tomorrow
legendary
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**In BTC since 2013**
January 25, 2024, 10:02:20 AM
#34
I would play with it. It is set to high. does 2200 watts and its loud

but set freq to -15% and we will see what it will do.

I may show it off next week.

I may make 2 as I have a lot of m20S cases.

I think I have a spare psu.

So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .

They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts   

they would be a decent home miner.

I will start a thread on this in a week

That's what would be interesting, a solution with domestic miners in mind.
It is not to become rich or have a large source of profit, but to be able to collaborate with the network without a large investment or loss of money.

When you created this topic, let me know that I'll want to follow along!  Wink
hero member
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January 25, 2024, 06:29:09 AM
#33
Okay I have a m50 with a dead dashboard   2200 watts and 75 th is 2200/75 = 29.3 watts a th

[...]

So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .

They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts   

they would be a decent home miner.

I will start a thread on this in a week
The efficiency figures look good, but I'm sure for anyone just getting started, this would be a much bigger initial investment (since you brought up the Avalon Nano 3 price) and ~10x higher power bill, right? I don't fully get your point about the price.

We should keep in mind that if someone's 'losing' money compared to DCA with a 29J/TH 100W Avalon, they're going to lose proportionally as much with a 29J/TH M50.
I.e. if you pay $15 in electricity for $9 in BTC with the Nano 3, you're at a -40% loss, but it's just 6 bucks; with 8x the power and hashrate, you pay $120 a month for $72 in BTC ($48 loss) - same proportionally, but a lot more real money 'lost' each month.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
January 24, 2024, 07:32:13 PM
#32
I checked out buying one it appeared to be 100+37 shipping+25tip = 162 usd

I will likely run a 1 board s19 instead or a 2 board whatsminer m50
Can you just get these big industrial miners with not all boards populated? And what are the stats on these in terms of purchase price and power consumption per hashboard? Sounds like a good idea for home mining, if the reduced power draw / heat output means they can be run with lower fan speeds.

Or would you piece them together from existing gear you already own as someone more experienced and equipped in mining stuff?

They did already change it; I wrote about that on page 1. Lottery mining is definitely an option, or just mine 'at a loss' i.e. lose some $ compared to DCA, but help with decentralizing hashpower. See it as a cheap contribution to the stability of Bitcoin. Also consider you still 'get' the heat output, if you have a need for it.

If you live in a colder country, or in a colder region of the country, you will certainly enjoy it. But I live in an area of the country where, generally in winter, the lowest temperature is around 8-10º (during the day). And for example, a "heat wave" is expected next week, with temperatures expected to reach 24º in the middle of winter.

Therefore, it is rare to use a heater, which reduces the advantage this equipment would have.
I agree, especially when talking about this miner in particular, but think about water heating. Some people started replacing boilers and tankless water heaters with ASIC-based solutions, although to the best of my knowledge that's all still custom / DIY territory.

Okay I have a m50 with a dead dashboard   2200 watts and 75 th is 2200/75 = 29.3 watts a th




I would play with it. It is set to high. does 2200 watts and its loud

but set freq to -15% and we will see what it will do.

I may show it off next week.

I may make 2 as I have a lot of m20S cases.

I think I have a spare psu.

So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .

They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts   

they would be a decent home miner.

I will start a thread on this in a week
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 5818
not your keys, not your coins!
January 24, 2024, 06:37:16 PM
#31
I checked out buying one it appeared to be 100+37 shipping+25tip = 162 usd

I will likely run a 1 board s19 instead or a 2 board whatsminer m50
Can you just get these big industrial miners with not all boards populated? And what are the stats on these in terms of purchase price and power consumption per hashboard? Sounds like a good idea for home mining, if the reduced power draw / heat output means they can be run with lower fan speeds.

Or would you piece them together from existing gear you already own as someone more experienced and equipped in mining stuff?

They did already change it; I wrote about that on page 1. Lottery mining is definitely an option, or just mine 'at a loss' i.e. lose some $ compared to DCA, but help with decentralizing hashpower. See it as a cheap contribution to the stability of Bitcoin. Also consider you still 'get' the heat output, if you have a need for it.

If you live in a colder country, or in a colder region of the country, you will certainly enjoy it. But I live in an area of the country where, generally in winter, the lowest temperature is around 8-10º (during the day). And for example, a "heat wave" is expected next week, with temperatures expected to reach 24º in the middle of winter.

Therefore, it is rare to use a heater, which reduces the advantage this equipment would have.
I agree, especially when talking about this miner in particular, but think about water heating. Some people started replacing boilers and tankless water heaters with ASIC-based solutions, although to the best of my knowledge that's all still custom / DIY territory.
legendary
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7849
'The right to privacy matters'
January 24, 2024, 05:35:00 PM
#30
They did already change it; I wrote about that on page 1. Lottery mining is definitely an option, or just mine 'at a loss' i.e. lose some $ compared to DCA, but help with decentralizing hashpower. See it as a cheap contribution to the stability of Bitcoin. Also consider you still 'get' the heat output, if you have a need for it.

If you live in a colder country, or in a colder region of the country, you will certainly enjoy it. But I live in an area of the country where, generally in winter, the lowest temperature is around 8-10º (during the day). And for example, a "heat wave" is expected next week, with temperatures expected to reach 24º in the middle of winter.

Therefore, it is rare to use a heater, which reduces the advantage this equipment would have.

If I get one I likely would do so only if I can point it to viabtc.

I would likely mine XEC not BTC.

Stack a few million XEC coins and trade them for btc

it is likely stupid

it likely will lose money but maybe XEC has a big move up.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 4508
**In BTC since 2013**
January 24, 2024, 04:43:16 PM
#29
They did already change it; I wrote about that on page 1. Lottery mining is definitely an option, or just mine 'at a loss' i.e. lose some $ compared to DCA, but help with decentralizing hashpower. See it as a cheap contribution to the stability of Bitcoin. Also consider you still 'get' the heat output, if you have a need for it.

If you live in a colder country, or in a colder region of the country, you will certainly enjoy it. But I live in an area of the country where, generally in winter, the lowest temperature is around 8-10º (during the day). And for example, a "heat wave" is expected next week, with temperatures expected to reach 24º in the middle of winter.

Therefore, it is rare to use a heater, which reduces the advantage this equipment would have.
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