⚽ Ballon d'or 2021 - 30 Left - 29 November 2021⚽ - page 6.

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Quote from: Lucius on October 28, 2021, 09:29:52 AM

If a document circulating on the Internet is to be believed, Lewandowski will win the Ballon d'or this year - and this is not the first time such a document has leaked and proved to be accurate. Personally, I'm happy to see that other players are winning this award, and that it's not just reserved for two players in the world - it has become quite boring, regardless of their unquestionable qualities.

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I don't think that's real. We saw in previous leak Messi was on top, now they put Lewa. It seems like they try to lower the credibility of first leak, put another leak for confusion. I wouldn't be surprised if Messi or Lewandowski win it but it's better to wait award night than believing these so called "leaks" over the internet. I wish they give last year's award as well, that way we wouldn't see much controversy. Give one award to Lewandowski and other award to Messi, everybody would be okay with that.

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Quote from: buwaytress on October 31, 2021, 08:24:15 AM

Seems legit except why is Ronaldo not in that list? Not that I'm a fanboy but surely his age and exploits this season and last are enough to see him get a mention? Unless he's in 8th place below N'golo Kante heh.

It is, position number 9.

This is to the 1st time when the winner is leaked before the official announcement, so this leak can be genuine.

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Quote from: Lucius on October 28, 2021, 09:29:52 AM

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I doubt the credibility of this document, because some names like "Kevin debruyne" were not spelt correctly (was spelt as Kewin).

If however Lewandoski is to emerge winner, i will be genuinely happy for him because he should have been the winner in 2020 if not for COVID. Not just because of goals, but because of total contribution to the team from 2020 till date.

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Quote from: Ebede on October 25, 2021, 04:10:24 AM

Lionel Messi is favorite for this year Ballon d' or.
This award is given Base on individual performance of players, Messi won the best player in La liga, scored the highest goals in both la Liga and Copa America.
More of the vote counts from Captain's, coaches and journalist will do.

Leonel Messi is my favorite to win the Ballon d'or but he is not the right full candidate to win the Ballon d'or no matter how much I like him I think he may best come in second place, Robert lewandowski was robbed from a ballon d'or by no one but the coronavirus, and I think he is an electric striker and if any one should win Ballon d'or that's no Leonel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo I think he should be the one, but Messi is bigger than him and Messi may just use his status to edge him out.

Keep also in mind that Lewandowski constantly delivers, this weekend he again scored two goals while Messi needed to leave the pitch during half-time. He still has his amazing moments, but it seems to me as if his speed gets lower over time and the number of amazing moments also is shrinking. He is still a terrific free-kick striker and he had some solid performances in the CL, but I don't think that will be enough.

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Quote from: Ebede on October 25, 2021, 04:10:24 AM

Lionel Messi is favorite for this year Ballon d' or.
This award is given Base on individual performance of players, Messi won the best player in La liga, scored the highest goals in both la Liga and Copa America.
More of the vote counts from Captain's, coaches and journalist will do.

Leonel Messi is my favorite to win the Ballon d'or but he is not the right full candidate to win the Ballon d'or no matter how much I like him I think he may best come in second place, Robert lewandowski was robbed from a ballon d'or by no one but the coronavirus, and I think he is an electric striker and if any one should win Ballon d'or that's no Leonel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo I think he should be the one, but Messi is bigger than him and Messi may just use his status to edge him out.

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Quote from: Lucius on October 28, 2021, 09:29:52 AM

If a document circulating on the Internet is to be believed, Lewandowski will win the Ballon d'or this year - and this is not the first time such a document has leaked and proved to be accurate. Personally, I'm happy to see that other players are winning this award, and that it's not just reserved for two players in the world - it has become quite boring, regardless of their unquestionable qualities.

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Seems legit except why is Ronaldo not in that list? Not that I'm a fanboy but surely his age and exploits this season and last are enough to see him get a mention? Unless he's in 8th place below N'golo Kante heh.

@Alisha-k then you probably have not been following these awards. They're definitely about performance but in the end, it's still a voting contest and as such, there is some popularity contest going on there and a lot of sentiment behind those votes!

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 27, 2021, 03:05:47 AM

Quote from: cygan on October 27, 2021, 02:57:25 AM

i still see RL as the big favorite for this award... of course there are a few other world class players who deserve this award
i still keep my fingers crossed for Robert, when in one month it will be: and the winner is... Grin

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@cygan Robert is a beast and if Messi and Ronaldo were not there then I too would have said that he’s the deserving candidate for this award. However I believe that he’ll not be winning it next month, but if he wins it then I’ll be absolutely happy, because he’s a magnificent player and definitely deserves to win this award at some stage of career.

He is indeed under the two GOATS , lewy individual records isnt enough to put him on top of the list. in recent days colective records & achievements counted towards the ballon d'or qualification , domestically and nationally.
unfortunately lewy has not earned sufficient achievement in his national team , if only poland reached euro final or semifinal at least... he could get that ballon d'or award easily on top of messi and cristiano.

on this ballon d'or edition it seems jorginho favorited to grab the award as he won it all even though a lot of people would a bit disagree .. they have to accept it due the terms & qualification in it , i personally voted for kante for no reason.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on October 31, 2021, 07:12:57 AM

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Quote from: Alisha-k on October 23, 2021, 09:27:58 PM

It's very clear that leonel messi is the real G.O.A.T🐐 ❤ i mean this is on my own discretion in addition to the BRACE he has scored and the trophy he carried internationally, he scored a free kick again and again to prove his uniqueness Grin

So what y'all still saying? Who are you having in mind if not Messi?
Ronaldo on his debut, lewandoski who hasn't made any course of qualifications for the balloons d'or
Who else please Wink

This is a yearly award and not one that should consider the achievements during the whole career of the players, obviously Messi is one of the best players of all time but something like that should not count for this particular award, only what Messi did during this year should count, and since he switched teams, suffered and injury and his level has not been close to his best I think someone else should receive this award instead of him.

It's a yearly award,am not disputing that fact but,to your own discretion which player is worth the award ?
Do you think the award will be given to any player of your choice for your own opinion?
These is about a players performance and not about sentimentalities, get these OP

when talking about messi indeed everyone will know that he is a very extraordinary player.
but for this season's ballon d'or I think there are other players who deserve the award.
Time for new players to receive this award looks like it will only get better because this award was special for the previous few seasons as only 2 people fought for it. if not ronaldo yes messi but now it's different.

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Quote from: Silberman on October 24, 2021, 05:04:04 PM

Quote from: Alisha-k on October 23, 2021, 09:27:58 PM

It's very clear that leonel messi is the real G.O.A.T🐐 ❤ i mean this is on my own discretion in addition to the BRACE he has scored and the trophy he carried internationally, he scored a free kick again and again to prove his uniqueness Grin

So what y'all still saying? Who are you having in mind if not Messi?
Ronaldo on his debut, lewandoski who hasn't made any course of qualifications for the balloons d'or
Who else please Wink

This is a yearly award and not one that should consider the achievements during the whole career of the players, obviously Messi is one of the best players of all time but something like that should not count for this particular award, only what Messi did during this year should count, and since he switched teams, suffered and injury and his level has not been close to his best I think someone else should receive this award instead of him.

It's a yearly award,am not disputing that fact but,to your own discretion which player is worth the award ?
Do you think the award will be given to any player of your choice for your own opinion?
These is about a players performance and not about sentimentalities, get these OP

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Quote from: mv1986 on October 30, 2021, 11:50:50 AM

I think what still was exciting was the rivalry between Ronaldo and Messi. I mean will we really ever see two guys scoring 50 and 46 goals respectively in La Liga within a single season? The question was always out for man people who of the two is the GOAT. For me it is definitely Messi, but it was understandable when Ronaldo got the world soccer player trophy as well. He had performances that were out of this world as well.

Should it be Lewandowski, the choice would be ok. He is doing amazing on a constant level now for quite some time.

their performance is indeed quite good but only for individuals and last season their performance in the team was not good enough in statistics especially winning the title.
indeed everyone knows that they are GOATs that even it will be difficult to keep up with these two players.
but on the other hand his contribution to the team is also calculated and lewa is one of the players who has a pretty good contribution, on the other hand he also continues to improve his record

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Quote from: Lucius on October 28, 2021, 09:29:52 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on October 27, 2021, 03:05:47 AM

Robert is a beast and if Messi and Ronaldo were not there then I too would have said that he’s the deserving candidate for this award. However I believe that he’ll not be winning it next month, but if he wins it then I’ll be absolutely happy, because he’s a magnificent player and definitely deserves to win this award at some stage of career.

If a document circulating on the Internet is to be believed, Lewandowski will win the Ballon d'or this year - and this is not the first time such a document has leaked and proved to be accurate. Personally, I'm happy to see that other players are winning this award, and that it's not just reserved for two players in the world - it has become quite boring, regardless of their unquestionable qualities.

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I think what still was exciting was the rivalry between Ronaldo and Messi. I mean will we really ever see two guys scoring 50 and 46 goals respectively in La Liga within a single season? The question was always out for man people who of the two is the GOAT. For me it is definitely Messi, but it was understandable when Ronaldo got the world soccer player trophy as well. He had performances that were out of this world as well.

Should it be Lewandowski, the choice would be ok. He is doing amazing on a constant level now for quite some time.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 27, 2021, 03:05:47 AM

Robert is a beast and if Messi and Ronaldo were not there then I too would have said that he’s the deserving candidate for this award. However I believe that he’ll not be winning it next month, but if he wins it then I’ll be absolutely happy, because he’s a magnificent player and definitely deserves to win this award at some stage of career.

If a document circulating on the Internet is to be believed, Lewandowski will win the Ballon d'or this year - and this is not the first time such a document has leaked and proved to be accurate. Personally, I'm happy to see that other players are winning this award, and that it's not just reserved for two players in the world - it has become quite boring, regardless of their unquestionable qualities.

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Quote from: cygan on October 27, 2021, 02:57:25 AM

i still see RL as the big favorite for this award... of course there are a few other world class players who deserve this award
i still keep my fingers crossed for Robert, when in one month it will be: and the winner is... Grin

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https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1453241070452711425

@cygan Robert is a beast and if Messi and Ronaldo were not there then I too would have said that he’s the deserving candidate for this award. However I believe that he’ll not be winning it next month, but if he wins it then I’ll be absolutely happy, because he’s a magnificent player and definitely deserves to win this award at some stage of career.

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i still see RL as the big favorite for this award... of course there are a few other world class players who deserve this award
i still keep my fingers crossed for Robert, when in one month it will be: and the winner is... Grin

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I'm from Poland and I'm so proud of @lewy_official!

https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1453241070452711425

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Quote from: Ebede on October 25, 2021, 04:10:24 AM

Lionel Messi is favorite for this year Ballon d' or.
This award is given Base on individual performance of players, Messi won the best player in La liga, scored the highest goals in both la Liga and Copa America.
More of the vote counts from Captain's, coaches and journalist will do.

Of the 30 nominees for the 2021 Ballon d'Or, Lionel Messi is indeed the strongest candidate to win it. With his good performance with Barcelona
and the national team, it seems that it is difficult for other candidates to beat Messi. But I have a different opinion, I chose Jorginho who also
played amazingly with Chelsea and the Italian national team. Jorginho won the Champions League trophy with Chelsea and helped Italy win
the UEFA Euro. So with Jorginho's achievements he really deserves to be the winner of the 2021 Ballon d'Or, we'll see the results will be announced
on November 29 in Paris.

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Lionel Messi is favorite for this year Ballon d' or.
This award is given Base on individual performance of players, Messi won the best player in La liga, scored the highest goals in both la Liga and Copa America.
More of the vote counts from Captain's, coaches and journalist will do.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on October 23, 2021, 09:27:58 PM

It's very clear that leonel messi is the real G.O.A.T🐐 ❤ i mean this is on my own discretion in addition to the BRACE he has scored and the trophy he carried internationally, he scored a free kick again and again to prove his uniqueness Grin

So what y'all still saying? Who are you having in mind if not Messi?
Ronaldo on his debut, lewandoski who hasn't made any course of qualifications for the balloons d'or
Who else please Wink

This is a yearly award and not one that should consider the achievements during the whole career of the players, obviously Messi is one of the best players of all time but something like that should not count for this particular award, only what Messi did during this year should count, and since he switched teams, suffered and injury and his level has not been close to his best I think someone else should receive this award instead of him.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on October 23, 2021, 09:27:58 PM

It's very clear that leonel messi is the real G.O.A.T🐐 ❤ i mean this is on my own discretion in addition to the BRACE he has scored and the trophy he carried internationally, he scored a free kick again and again to prove his uniqueness Grin

So what y'all still saying? Who are you having in mind if not Messi?
Ronaldo on his debut, lewandoski who hasn't made any course of qualifications for the balloons d'or
Who else please Wink

there is some controversy that will occur when messi gets the seventh Ballon d'or this because indeed to speak of performance no one doubts the ability of this player but the red card problem when he was still in Barcelona uniform might be one of the stumbling blocks for messi to get the title this season's ballon d'or.
even French legend Franck Leboeuf said and compared Messi's current situation with his colleague in the French national team, Zinedine Zidane. "Zidane didn't win the Ballon d'Or because he received a red card every election time (2000 and 2006). "Messi received a red card in the Spanish Super Cup (versus Bilbao) for hitting an opponent, it could have an effect".

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I wonder, has the voting already taken place or is that still running? I know usually the Ballon d'or is referring to the past season, but isn't the voting still running and current performances will also have an influence?

If that is the case, i can very well imagine that Mo Salah might also have a chance given his current performance in the PL, especially today.

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It's very clear that leonel messi is the real G.O.A.T🐐 ❤ i mean this is on my own discretion in addition to the BRACE he has scored and the trophy he carried internationally, he scored a free kick again and again to prove his uniqueness Grin

So what y'all still saying? Who are you having in mind if not Messi?
Ronaldo on his debut, lewandoski who hasn't made any course of qualifications for the balloons d'or
Who else please Wink

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