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Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014 - page 14. (Read 1210699 times)

hero member
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Clint the LMDB version seems to take more time to synchronize with the old version. My took about two days and got stuck in the middle.
What version of Boolberry are you running?
Did you try using --db-sync-mode command-line option to speed-up synchronization as I suggested above?

You guys should download the bootstrap and you would only have a few blocks to sync, its available on the boolberry github.  Thats what ive did and it took my minutes to sync...
newbie
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Clint the LMDB version seems to take more time to synchronize with the old version. My took about two days and got stuck in the middle.
What version of Boolberry are you running?
Did you try using --db-sync-mode command-line option to speed-up synchronization as I suggested above?
newbie
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I know there was a lot of talk about Kucoin a while back...anyone know if there are plans to get on an exchange or two that have higher traffic before the next bull run really gets going?  Don't want to miss out on the overall rising tide effect - the price will go up even without development or "good news" just because people will start putting money into all kinds of coins.   Not sure how development is currently funded but if its from boolberry one would suppose riding a bull wave up would help that.   
sr. member
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If you want BBR coins do your work, and give us the Proof of your Work.
The only solution for Byzantine Generals' Problem is the PoW, so PoS(hit) and masternodes are insecure.
Good point. Those who want masternodes should first explain
  • what is the problem that masternodes are trying to solve, and
  • how would masternodes actually solve the problem
instead of running around like Steve Ballmer shouting "masternodes" in place of "developers".
member
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Clint the LMDB version seems to take more time to synchronize with the old version. My took about two days and got stuck in the middle.
member
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Hey. Please tell us what are the communities' ideas about including the BBR as Masternode?

If you want BBR coins do your work, and give us the Proof of your Work.
The only solution for Byzantine Generals' Problem is the PoW, so PoS(hit) and masternodes are insecure.
hero member
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The cryptospace has changed and the market can totally accept masternodes. Boolberry coin have good potential.
There's one thing I absolutely accept about masternodes. We should totally reward those who maintain stable nodes with good uptime and connectivity. But all the masternode schemes I've seen include a large deposit of money. That's the bit that goes completely against all logic and ideals I've known so far.

In general, I pay people for useful services. I don't pay people just because they already have money. In the real world, rich people don't get richer simply by having all that money, but because they use their money sensibly -- for example, on servers and Internet infrastructure.

Moreover, I don't want a world where you need a hefty deposit in order to be a service provider. I'll rather trust a distributed P2P network than an oligarchy of a few rich players. Isn't that why we have cryptocurrencies in the first place? If you want old-time big-money capitalism, you can already do that outside the crypto world.


I mostly agree with what you said, but masternode by themself have nothing wrong, its more about how you become one that is an issue (High collateral in most cases).  I also believe that like DPoS a masternode should be only be reward if it provide a stable and outstanding services...
sr. member
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The cryptospace has changed and the market can totally accept masternodes. Boolberry coin have good potential.
There's one thing I absolutely accept about masternodes. We should totally reward those who maintain stable nodes with good uptime and connectivity. But all the masternode schemes I've seen include a large deposit of money. That's the bit that goes completely against all logic and ideals I've known so far.

In general, I pay people for useful services. I don't pay people just because they already have money. In the real world, rich people don't get richer simply by having all that money, but because they use their money sensibly -- for example, on servers and Internet infrastructure.

Moreover, I don't want a world where you need a hefty deposit in order to be a service provider. I'll rather trust a distributed P2P network than an oligarchy of a few rich players. Isn't that why we have cryptocurrencies in the first place? If you want old-time big-money capitalism, you can already do that outside the crypto world.
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Hey. Please tell us what are the communities' ideas about including the BBR as Masternode?
I don't represent the BBR community, but I've been here for a while (see my profile). In my opinion, masternodes are completely against the original ideals of cryptocurrencies, as I explain in the link in my signature. (I probably have enough BBR to be in the "masternode class" of BBR users, but I don't think I should be granted any special privileges for it.)
That is a good question. The cryptospace has changed and the market can totally accept masternodes. Boolberry coin have good potential.
sr. member
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Hey. Please tell us what are the communities' ideas about including the BBR as Masternode?
I don't represent the BBR community, but I've been here for a while (see my profile). In my opinion, masternodes are completely against the original ideals of cryptocurrencies, as I explain in the link in my signature. (I probably have enough BBR to be in the "masternode class" of BBR users, but I don't think I should be granted any special privileges for it.)
newbie
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Hey. Please tell us what are the communities' ideas about including the BBR as Masternode?
copper member
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Copy of text from reddit post at:

https://www.reddit.com/r/boolberry/comments/98pkmg/while_boolberry_was_almost_the_monero_before/

Interesting observation, and I absolutely agree. There were a couple of important things that happened around that time in April / May of 2014. Aside from the fact that Monero was "rush launched" which gave it status as the 1st fork from BCN, it also had 1 minute block times for the first 2 years, and therefore a much faster emission curve, even though they both had the same emission factor. This faster emission curve allowed coins to be accumulated and gave people an incentive to organize and work as a team, similar to the effect that DASH's instamine had. If you look at the old OTC threads on BCT, Boolberry actually traded at a premium to Monero in May 2014 prior to listings on Polinex and Bittrex.

BBR OTC: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-bbr-boolberry-trading-thread-high-0004-low-0001-last-00022-616391

XMR (MRO) OTC: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-mro-monero-trading-thread-and-otc-xchg-578192

Its important to note that the lag between the pre-ann and genesis block for Boolberry included some changes that have stood the test of time. The change in the hashing algo Wild Keccak, was never shown to have any unfair advantage like we saw with Monero. (see link)

https://da-data.blogspot.com/2014/08/minting-money-with-monero-and-cpu.html

Additionally, other features that were challenged by the Monero community, namely, Smooth, were later incorporated such as pruning of ring signatures and eventually changing the hashing algo to V7 (supposed to be ASIC resistant), which might change yet again! Monero uses a 2MB scratchpad, where Boolberry has a scratchpad that is now about 340MB and grows at about 90MB per year. Even if there were FPGAs mining BBR, the Xilinx VCU1525 only has 346MB on chip memory, so that should be passed in the next couple of weeks.

Cryptozoidberg, was churning out code in mid 2014 at a pace that was unprecedented. There was a funny post from CZ aimed at FluffyPony as they were blindly merging commits. (see link)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8960248

Also during this time there was a chess match between Monero and Boolberry. (see link)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptonote-technical-discussion-and-chess-challenge-1190988

The competition during 2014 was fierce and the fact that cryptozoidberg was 1 person trying to compete against a group of old bitcoin guys that took over Monero from thankful_for_today.

Here is the original Bitmonero thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbmr-bitmonero-a-new-coin-based-on-cryptonote-technology-launched-563821

Current Monero thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monero-a-secure-private-untraceable-cryptocurrency-583449

In December 2014 Cryptozoidberg announced that he was going to be working on a new project code named Louid'or. (see link)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/louisdorcodename-first-anonymous-pos-cn-based-currency-technical-review-887482

In his absence there were several attempts by unrelated parties to bring changes to Boolberry, which ultimately led to its de-listing from both Polinex in April '17 and Bittrex in August '17.

For a period of almost 3 years, CZ would periodically surface to reiterate his commitment to return. Finally earlier this year, He DID return, and has implemented a number of improvements over the past several months. Improvements include, off-line signatures (a requirement for exchanges like Binance), LMDB (which took monero a year to implement) integrated addresses, which eliminates the confusion for people sending coins to exchanges which requires a payment ID, and a long list of optimizations and bug fixes.

If you look on cryptomiso.com, and choose ranking by previous 3 months, Boolberry is listed among some large name coins, and at the moment BBR is ranked #114 vs XMR at #86.

https://www.cryptomiso.com/months_3.html

There is not much information out regarding what is planned, but on the website https://boolberry.com/ if you look at phase 3 of the road-map, it say "Big news to come in the year ahead."

Hope this helps connect some of the dots and gives a better overview of history.

Here is the link to the Boolberry Telegram Group: https://t.me/boolberry_bbr

And "the official" Twitter: https://twitter.com/BoolberryBBR
legendary
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Wownero the only cryptonote that will remain standing long term.

Goddamit, they just keep pooping up Smiley

I know that the consistency in development in crypto pays sooner or later, a lot, and a dev team around BBR is STRONG. Competitors feel the need to step in and "help" in clarification.

It's also interesting how all the Monero (and Zcash) variants were supposed to be ASIC proof. After ASICs for them materialized, the mining algos were changed in a whack-a-mole fashion, without any serious regard for ASIC resistance (e.g. similar memory requirements). Meanwhile, BBR's Wild Keccak remains out of reach for current ASIC tech. No algo is technically ASIC proof, but there are different levels of resistance, and BBR's is looking very high in comparison.

(I keep hearing about MTP that's supposed to in a league of its own, but so far, nothing has been delivered. BBR delivered its algo many years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if some other coin adopted Wild Keccak, but the NIH syndrome is strong in cryptocurrencies.)

That is actually one aspect that Wownero is looking to diverge from Monero on, by implementing a proof of work based on randomly generated JavaScript programs. The idea was put forth by hyc the lmdb person, and has now been implemented by user tevador on GitHub. This would be more geared towards CPUs though, where as bbr is geared towards GPUs. Sorry for intruding on the thread, was mostly just coming to joke about the name...ah the good old days when bbr name was endlessly and repeatedly debated on shitcointalk.
sr. member
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555
Wownero the only cryptonote that will remain standing long term.

Goddamit, they just keep pooping up Smiley

I know that the consistency in development in crypto pays sooner or later, a lot, and a dev team around BBR is STRONG. Competitors feel the need to step in and "help" in clarification.

It's also interesting how all the Monero (and Zcash) variants were supposed to be ASIC proof. After ASICs for them materialized, the mining algos were changed in a whack-a-mole fashion, without any serious regard for ASIC resistance (e.g. similar memory requirements). Meanwhile, BBR's Wild Keccak remains out of reach for current ASIC tech. No algo is technically ASIC proof, but there are different levels of resistance, and BBR's is looking very high in comparison.

(I keep hearing about MTP that's supposed to in a league of its own, but so far, nothing has been delivered. BBR delivered its algo many years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if some other coin adopted Wild Keccak, but the NIH syndrome is strong in cryptocurrencies.)
legendary
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Yes windows 8.1 I'm using. I did try --db-sync-mode=fast on the shortcut before and didn't notice much difference. But I'm trying it again and letting it run overnight to see if there is a difference long term.
Thanks  Smiley  
On block 138,000 right now after ~48 hrs.
I've just tried to sync from scratch with --db-sync-mode=fast on my i3-6320 with 5400 rpm Western Digital HDD.
Windows 7 x64 with Booberry v0.3.0.68.
After an hour I'm at height 130800 (~9-12 hours to get fully synced).
It started syncing faster but my computer crashed and so did the wallet so...I'm going to reinstall the wallet. Tongue
I have all the luck.  Cheesy



EDIT: New install and wallet's on block 350,000 already....12 hrs  Smiley
hero member
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I have a Mac, soon the Bittrex wallet will be closed, and all XBB coins will disappear. It's funny, huh?

If you familiar with command line, you can use simplewallet --generate-new-wallet=Some\path\no\new\file  to generate new wallet(address) without synchronizing the whole blockchain, i mean you can do synchronizing later.
Sorry for this issue, we working hard to improve performance.


 
newbie
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Yes windows 8.1 I'm using. I did try --db-sync-mode=fast on the shortcut before and didn't notice much difference. But I'm trying it again and letting it run overnight to see if there is a difference long term.
Thanks  Smiley  
On block 138,000 right now after ~48 hrs.
I've just tried to sync from scratch with --db-sync-mode=fast on my i3-6320 with 5400 rpm Western Digital HDD.
Windows 7 x64 with Booberry v0.3.0.68.
After an hour I'm at height 130800 (~9-12 hours to get fully synced).
newbie
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Merit: 0
I have a Mac, soon the Bittrex wallet will be closed, and all XBB coins will disappear. It's funny, huh?
Bittrex delisted XBB almost a year ago. If you still have some XBB there just withdraw them to your local wallet.
member
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I have a Mac, soon the Bittrex wallet will be closed, and all XBB coins will disappear. It's funny, huh?
member
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Zoidberg has always been synonymous with innovation in CryptoNote, and he epitomizes hard work.

Zoidberg is a crypto unicorn. 

Teaser: Zoidberg wasn’t not working the past 3 years... (intentional double negative) Smiley

If that's true, where is Louis d'Or?  Where is the code the dev tax has for 3 years been paying CZ to keep working on?

Where is LMDB?  Where is Ring CT?  Where is the PR for bulletproofs?

Why doesn't CZ do something useful like contribute to Kovri or Tari instead of keeping this shitcoin abandonware thread bumped?

Why dont you instead of shitting here and beating the better coin, instead of promoting monero, jump in to the innovation wagon named BBR?
This is the same kind of talk you opened crappy mouth. How long did it take for monero to integrate lmdb?? lol of time if you take a comparison.

There is room for XMR, BCN and BBR.

Compere them, you will easily see which coin can and has potential. Monero integration is great. Now put BBR on binance and other major exchanges. What are you scared of.
Boolberry project is really undervalued. But It's been a lot of work and effort this year.
I'm thinking this technology has a great future.
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