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Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014 - page 274. (Read 1210783 times)

legendary
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BBR's POW and Diff are different from XMR and the exploit seems to be exploiting XMR only anyway. There is no slippage to BBR yet which is fascinating to me as well as the fact that some of the XMR dumpers also slowly dumped BBR to keep the silver coin in check Wink

BCX's attack has nothing to do with POW per se.  It targets Cryptnote's implementation of ring signatures AFAIK.

BBR is a much easier target for a Sybil mediated timewarp attack because it has a far smaller network than XMR securing it.
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BBR's POW and Diff are different from XMR and the exploit seems to be exploiting XMR only anyway. There is no slippage to BBR yet which is fascinating to me as well as the fact that some of the XMR dumpers also slowly dumped BBR to keep the silver coin in check Wink

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I would highly encourage you to stop discussing the name. It does not help in any way and it does not make an influence to the final decision. Voting has been already finished. Final official decision will be announced soon. Posting metal band pictures won't discourage us to move forward for the better good.

Stay with us and support us or leave us - it's your choice. For all the project (doesn't matter the name) supporters I would like to say big thank you!

Bitcrea

...... and the coup completes.

I'll take option B thanks Bob.

Good luck in Gielinor, look out for those dragons - they can inflict up to 6000 damage on you.  Shocked.
legendary
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CZ, is this affecting BBR as well?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8905825


We are working on resolving this issue. I was the one that offered anonymint a bounty to research BCX's claims. This is a possible exploit that anonymint says has a fix, so as long as we can concentrate on the important things, then it should be just another day in cryptoland.

My understanding of the attack is that it takes a long time to prepare, and it also requires a lot of hardware resources and only can affect some subset of tx. So, there are many conditions and few people will have the ability and resources to pull this off.

Now this could all be an overreaction to some obscure edge case, but when it comes to something like this I do not want to assume it is inconsequential even if it is improbable. At the very least, this provides some intense scrutiny of the algorithms and creates new ways to harden it.

James

Thanks for the update James.
legendary
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CZ, is this affecting BBR as well?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8905825


We are working on resolving this issue. I was the one that offered anonymint a bounty to research BCX's claims. This is a possible exploit that anonymint says has a fix, so as long as we can concentrate on the important things, then it should be just another day in cryptoland.

My understanding of the attack is that it takes a long time to prepare, and it also requires a lot of hardware resources and only can affect some subset of tx. So, there are many conditions and few people will have the ability and resources to pull this off.

Now this could all be an overreaction to some obscure edge case, but when it comes to something like this I do not want to assume it is inconsequential even if it is improbable. At the very least, this provides some intense scrutiny of the algorithms and creates new ways to harden it.

James
legendary
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CZ, is this affecting BBR as well?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8905825


Well, the made-up vague FUD is affecting XMR's price severely. BBR's price is only down to 0.0007, so I would say it affects XMR more than BBR. In the unlikely case it's not false, Boolberry will have time to fix the issue after Monero is "attacked" in a few days.


I know that friend, but thought maybe CZ noted problem earlier and conserved it...
That would place BBR ahead of other CN coins.


Right. Either this is FUD (most likely) and BBR will go up in a couple of days or its not and BBR will go up A LOT in a couple of days.
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CZ, is this affecting BBR as well?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8905825


Well, the made-up vague FUD is affecting XMR's price severely. BBR's price is only down to 0.0007, so I would say it affects XMR more than BBR. In the unlikely case it's not false, Boolberry will have time to fix the issue after Monero is "attacked" in a few days.


I know that friend, but thought maybe CZ noted problem earlier and conserved it...
That would place BBR ahead of other CN coins.
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CZ, is this affecting BBR as well?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8905825


Well, the vague made-up FUD is affecting XMR's price severely. BBR's price is only down to 0.0007, so I would say it affects XMR more than BBR. In the unlikely case it's not false, Boolberry will have time to fix the issue after Monero is "attacked" in a few days.
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I know I'm not any good you should take up the marketing job, your passionate about the name. You'd do a good job at marketing the coin.
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Do we really need to go on an on and on with this stupid squable about he name. When the dev is upset, and there may be a huge exploit, which the dev needs to focus his attention on, and not this constant inane bickering. I quote from the Monero thread.

Quote from: TheFascistMind on Today at 03:50:53 PM
I had a sudden epiphany while at dinner which is BCX's exploit, well at least I can find the i == s and from that it may be possible to factor 'x' the private key.

I am trying to think of a fix. So far I can not think of any fix. I think BCX is correct, this is a coin killer.

I will also be contacting BCX to see if he wants to buy it from me since he wrote publicly that someone offered in 100 BTC for this.

BCX, do you have any interest in buying this from me instead of me selling to James, smooth, or BrilliantRocket?


I received the above PM from "The Fascist" aka "Anonymint". It seems as if he has also found an exploit.

I have no interest in buying any exploit or any interest in attacking Monero. I am neither for or against the coin.

I do however see a serious flaw inherent to all CN coins with Monero being the focal point.

With this exploit expanding into the wild, holding any sum of funds in XMR you cannot lose is foolish.

I can absolutely guarantee you as soon as this exploit is successfully deployed, every single exchange will halt trading
and there will a lot of people holding coins they cannot trade anywhere.

As Anonymint also indicated, this is indeed a coin killer.


~BCX~


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8902631

Now I going to go take an Advil before my head explodes.



It's a good job you're not the marketing guy.
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I would highly encourage you to stop discussing the name. It does not help in any way and it does not make an influence to the final decision. Voting has been already finished. Final official decision will be announced soon. Posting metal band pictures won't discourage us to move forward for the better good.

Stay with us and support us or leave us - it's your choice. For all the project (doesn't matter the name) supporters I would like to say big thank you!

Bitcrea
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Do we really need to go on an on and on with this stupid squable about he name. When the dev is upset, and there may be a huge exploit, which the dev needs to focus his attention on, and not this constant inane bickering. I quote from the Monero thread.

Quote from: TheFascistMind on Today at 03:50:53 PM
I had a sudden epiphany while at dinner which is BCX's exploit, well at least I can find the i == s and from that it may be possible to factor 'x' the private key.

I am trying to think of a fix. So far I can not think of any fix. I think BCX is correct, this is a coin killer.

I will also be contacting BCX to see if he wants to buy it from me since he wrote publicly that someone offered in 100 BTC for this.

BCX, do you have any interest in buying this from me instead of me selling to James, smooth, or BrilliantRocket?


I received the above PM from "The Fascist" aka "Anonymint". It seems as if he has also found an exploit.

I have no interest in buying any exploit or any interest in attacking Monero. I am neither for or against the coin.

I do however see a serious flaw inherent to all CN coins with Monero being the focal point.

With this exploit expanding into the wild, holding any sum of funds in XMR you cannot lose is foolish.

I can absolutely guarantee you as soon as this exploit is successfully deployed, every single exchange will halt trading
and there will a lot of people holding coins they cannot trade anywhere.

As Anonymint also indicated, this is indeed a coin killer.


~BCX~

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8902631

Now I going to go take an Advil before my head explodes.
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You are misunderstanding me. The dissent is largely from you and sussex from what I see so far,

Then open your eyes, you will see much more.....

Rune    17 (25.4%)
Secore    3 (4.5%)
Vortex    2 (3%)
Boolberry    41 (61.2%)
BitRing    2 (3%)
Boollion    2 (3%)
Total Voters: 67



And how many of those votes are from sockpuppets? Stop acting like that poll is legitimate, anyone who cares enough could spend an hour and get any of those choices in first place.

Who knows?

But then again, how many sockpuppets are there for Rune? Are there only Boolberry sockpuppets?

It's not me trying to convince others of the legitimacy of a poll, if you want to see real vote rigging head over to the official poll.
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You are misunderstanding me. The dissent is largely from you and sussex from what I see so far,

Then open your eyes, you will see much more.....

Rune    17 (25.4%)
Secore    3 (4.5%)
Vortex    2 (3%)
Boolberry    41 (61.2%)
BitRing    2 (3%)
Boollion    2 (3%)
Total Voters: 67



And how many of those votes are from sockpuppets? Stop acting like that poll is legitimate, anyone who cares enough could spend an hour and get any of those choices in first place.
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You are misunderstanding me. The dissent is largely from you and sussex from what I see so far,

Then open your eyes, you will see much more.....

Rune    17 (25.4%)
Secore    3 (4.5%)
Vortex    2 (3%)
Boolberry    41 (61.2%)
BitRing    2 (3%)
Boollion    2 (3%)
Total Voters: 67





OK we've pissed the dev off, time to forget about it before we do more damage to this coin and the community.
legendary
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I am with you man. The nerve of this developer. I thought this was a joke coin because of the Boolberry name. If they are trying to become serious with name change etc i be tripping and dumping.

Look at the heavy metal bands named Rune.  Look at the comic book named Rune.  Campy?  Yes.  100% Not Serious?  Yes.

Dont forget Runescape...


Sorry for misunderstanding you slapper.  I had to read your words with an accept to make them work right.   Smiley

As for Runescape, please pass the brain bleach!

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The essential problem here is that 60% of the community were denied their voice.
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The thing is that we care only about votes of our community.
And we don't care about what had written here by you, smooth or whoever came from whatever. So you just wasting your time here.
It was mentioned that vote made for people who was supported and helped our project, our community members.
This is sad that Icebreaker and teknohog, and couple of others didn't liked, but most of community supported our efforts.





CZ, this is what you wrote to me on 31st May (sorry to publicise it, but you are rather forcing my hand) - this is from when the last naming furore was at it's height and I was again being vocal about my thoughts.

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Thank you for trying help me, i agree with your quote, but have no idea what to do with that.
Every name i make is the worse than previous.
May be its good to stop that. I don't like what community suggest actually.
What would you do one in my place?

It would seem you considered me a part of the community back then - what has changed to make it not the case now? My stance has not changed one bit, so why is it a problem now?

Why did you ask me my thoughts back then, but today I get "we don't care about what had written here by you, smooth or whoever came from whatever.".

Who is we?

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It was mentioned that vote made for people who was supported and helped our project, our community members.

No, it was a vote made for people who agreed with you.
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