Topic: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-Big Tourneys-BONUS-Freerolls, Ring Games, Real Poker - page 71. (Read 367790 times)

I meant these questions.


I dont want to make big deal about the paying players for compliments thing, just want to make it clear that its entirely possible that many of the posts in this thread which may appear to be unsolicited and unbiased could be motivated by a monetary reward in reality.

I do appreciate someone who disagrees actually taking the time to say something other than "betcoin is awesome what are you talking about idiot"

Agree 100% - Betcoin isn't as bad as the worst sites in the history of online poker.

Care to discuss my questions?

It's very clear what I'm saying.  Betcoin support has a long history of making mistakes.  That's literally what I said.  Read the last sentence (there are only two) of what you quoted.  I never said that a large player base doesn't benefit everyone, I never said anything about defunct fiat sites, I never said anything about withdraw issues (although I have had one or two, the delay wasn't the problem it was the support's reaction to me that was the problem), I never said anything about it being anonymous.  You are ignoring the issues being brought up and bringing up things irrelevant to the conversation in order to bump your penny sig campaign or try to get a lil bonus.  That's shitty.  If you have something constructive to add, even if it's in Betcoin's defense, that's a positive contribution!  But saying "I LIKE BETCOIN BECAUSE I CAN PLAY UNDERAGED! THEY ARE NICE!" is worthless and only makes you look like a shill, which probably isn't how you are intending to come across.

Not only that but try withdrawing on Carbon....takes months, a strenuous documentation process, and maximum withdrawal limits....it could take a year or more to cash out from Carbon if one were to win any significant amount.  The examples I gave were just a few of the most grievous examples....Betcoin is a dream in comparison!

So, what are you saying?  Brand promotion is a bad idea?  Do you believe that they're cheating you because they rewarded you for promoting their brand?  Betcoin is a good brand and I hope it continues to grow.  A larger player base benefits us all.  Try playing at Lock, Carbon, UltimateBet, Absolute...etc.  I've been around for awhile and I truly believe that Betcoin has good intentions....never had a problem withdrawing (no max, no mins)...deposits have never been easier (no max, no mins)....no docs, utility bills, proof of address....etc.  It is the most favorable site for US players in the world at the moment.  It just needs a larger player pool and it would be a dream!

So, what are you saying?  Brand promotion is a bad idea?  Do you believe that they're cheating you because they rewarded you for promoting their brand?  Betcoin is a good brand and I hope it continues to grow.  A larger player base benefits us all.  Try playing at Lock, Carbon, UltimateBet, Absolute...etc.  I've been around for awhile and I truly believe that Betcoin has good intentions....never had a problem withdrawing (no max, no mins)...deposits have never been easier (no max, no mins)....no docs, utility bills, proof of address....etc.  It is the most favorable site for US players in the world at the moment.  It just needs a larger player pool and it would be a dream!

I really enjoy playing at Betcoin.  I have never felt cheated playing here, but there has been some growing pains with the software that IMHO they HAVE been working on diligently.  I have played on many of the WPN skins for right around a decade now.  The software glitches that have been pointed out here are not exclusive to Betcoin....Betcoin is just the newest skin (and more involved due to the duel nature of its player pool) that has to confront the complexity of the software.  I have total faith in the brand!  Betcoin is fair....and not as greedy as many other poker sites.  There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism but FUD doesn't help!

Hello,

PokerStars has become aware of a situation involving a violation of our Terms of Service, to the potential detriment of other players. You participated in games that were under consideration in this case and as a result you may have been adversely affected.

In a case such as this it is our policy to confiscate the balances of the offender(s) and for PokerStars to add funds where appropriate. This compensation pool is then distributed to players potentially affected in as fair a way as possible.

To confirm your credit, please log onto your PokerStars account, go to the 'Cashier' screen and click the 'History' button. Your share will be shown as "REFUND", followed by the amount of the credit.

The integrity of the games at PokerStars is of paramount importance and appropriate action will always be taken when players operate outside the Terms of Service. PokerStars works hard to police the games in order to pro-actively prevent such instances. However, in cases where it is discovered that rules breaches have occurred, the aim is to ensure that any players affected are compensated appropriately.

We regret that we will be unable to answer questions as to how your specific credit amount was calculated. Likewise, we are not at liberty to identify the specific games or player(s) in question. Suffice to say that the offender(s) have been barred from the site and you will not encounter them again.

Thank you for your continued play at PokerStars. Please let us know if we can help you with any further issues or questions.

Regards,

PokerStars Game Integrity Team

Just to corroborate some of Twitchy's points, I've also received 'rewards' for posting positive comments on here, have seen support delete posts, have seen support make posts under user's names and in general have just shown a lack of understanding of poker and lack of professionalism.  Honestly, it comes across as a handful of people who are in over their heads and are probably trying their best but are making some really bad decisions.

Dude are you serious?  I see you continue to post and I see more and more action in Betcoin ring games and Betcoin tournaments.  You realize that you are bumping this thread and keeping Betcoin in the top spot here?  I see several hundred people playing daily including many very high stakes players and I never see them complaining...

I understand I have the option to play elsewhere, I've already explained I rarely play on Betcoin anymore - and may never again.  Currently I'm playing on WPN through 5dimes, 4 mtts $109, $44, $33 and $160 buyins, all funded by bitcoin. (sn = goatofgoats) So telling me to "go somewhere else" doesn't really make any sense.  "forget about betcoin and stop trying to hold them accountable" would make more sense.

I'm doing this because I truly believe its the right thing to do

Hoping to get through these 3 issues before bed:

-   Betcoin Andrew blatantly lies in the Betcoin chat room.

-   Betcoin is made aware they have a tournament scheduled daily that is setup to underpay every time it surpasses the guarantee.  They have known about the issue since late June/early July, they haven’t fixed it – but they have deleted threads about it.

-   How Betcoin handled the blacked out tables for the first few levels of the Million Dollar Guarantee on August 2nd.


But first here's some proof that Betcoin pays players to defend them on this forum.

(Maybe this is cool here, I don't know.  But it seems kinda scummy to me and I think at the very least everyone should know that it's happening.)

I am the one who received the bonus here after making this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11992785

The next day I received this email and 20 mbtc in my account.  



Also, I have some more evidence of Betcoin being aware of cheating, and choosing to do nothing until the cheaters attempt to withdraw:



I don't think they were aware at the time, but when staff likes another staff members post - it's made public for anyone to see in their profile.

This screen shot also may or may not prove that our passwords are not encrypted.  


I posted this ss in Betcoin Chat just now, here are some of supports responses (basically encouraging everyone to troll me):

Betcoin Andrew: 81! That's insane.
Betcoin Andrew: Thanks Post, we are all trying to figure out OHYEAH
Betcoin Andrew: We just can't quite understand what is going on with him? Can someone help explain?
Betcoin Andrew: WE were thinking about having a bonus where the person who logs the most time, logged in and active would win, but OHYEAH would win that daily.


Entire Chat history can be found here : https://www.betcoin.ag/chat/log

Betcoin, you can troll me all day everyday - It may work in the the betcoin chat, but eventually someone will read this that you actually respect and ask you for a response.  

Betcoin.ag Support <[email protected]>
Jul 29

to support
Hello,

As Betcoin becomes more popular, there will be more people trolling, attacking, etc., our goal is to provide the best place for all of you. We will never do our players wrong, ever. Sometimes, we will need responses in forums and we appreciate that.

We want to thank you for your bitcointalk response to the "scam" accusation which was just ludicrous.  We are very appreciative of your selfless action in doing this and have added a small bonus to your account.

Sincerely,

Thomas


Betcoin

For many months, they claimed it didn't exist.  (there were no terms to be found anywhere, support only ever confirmed this via private chat)

Eventually they added the terms and now act as if they had been their all along.

I have screenshots of deleted threads and BetcoinPaul making these claims.  Coming up soon  -

I intend on cross posting most of this stuff on 2P2 as well, probably the WPN sub forum.

That can't be real.  Are you saying that Betcoin is saying that the BBJ, which has a counter IN THE CLIENT called "BadBeat Jackpot" doesn't/has never exist(ed)?

Also if you are investigating DDOS attacks on individual players you may want to contact the player on 2p2 who claims to have been DDOS'ed @ 600plo multiple times in a session and said that Betcoin instantly reimbursed him.

The BBJP situation is on my list. They did make an incomplete list of terms though some of which don't make sense.  They are also acting as if these terms were always available and the BBJP never didn't exist.