Okay, I am sure that once an investigation is concluded, if in fact it were substantiated, the monies would be returned.
You're sure betcoin would return the funds to players...even the ones that never complained?
Even though Betcoin is clearly refusing to make any non-troll comment on this topic. (I've probably asked support close to 50 times over the past 3 months)
Even though I've shared evidence proving that there have been situations when they knew who and how someone was cheating - and refused to do anything other than ask him to apologize?
How about the screen shot we weren’t supposed to see of one Betcoin employee reminding another to block the withdraw request of someone running a 81 player collusion ring? (hint: if he was banned, they wouldn't need to block his cashout)Here's some more evidence for you -
This was before I joined, but apparantly last Feb betcoin held a 10BTC freeroll - funded with the money the confiscated from colluders.We have been following the play of two players in our cash games for nearly 10 days, studying hundreds of hands and receiving feedback from over 20 players that have played against them. Our findings are very clear that two players are colluding, soft playing and cheating other players. We will always protect the integrity of our poker room and have the best possible environment for our players. Their accounts have been banned and even though neither player has ever made a deposit we are allowing them to keep a small portion of the funds.
The remainder and majority of the funds will be dispersed to players that were cheated and used to host a 10 btc freeroll next Sunday February 15, 2015 to make the message clear that collusion, soft play, and cheating will not be tolerated at Betcoin Poker ever and that swift and decisive action will be taken.
Betcoin sees themselves as the hero here. They don't understand that just because they catch players cheating other players on their site means they are entitled to do whatever they want with the funds.
Every penny should of been returned to the players as fairly as possible.
But wait -there's more!If you suspect collusion, soft play or any type of cheating at anytime, please message us immediately. ZERO TOLERANCE at Betcoin Poker.
Password for the 10 BTC Anti-Collusion Freeroll is: NoCollusion
After the freeroll a player calls out Betcoin for allowing the original cheaters to play in the freeroll.
It seems as if a lot was edited but Betcoin Andrews just blows my mind.
PlayerBetcoin AndrewAfter several emails with this player and banning the other accounts associated, we have let him play under a strict watchful eye. We believe in second chances at Betcoin and we are watching him and many other players very closely.
Player Asking about Betcoin Deleting Postsremoved names9 months 2 days ago
da_killa and Drajl.
why did you removed them?
Player trolling to defend BetcoinYou mad bro?
I assume you got bad beat in the 10 btc. So sad.
Responses Ignored by Betcoinjust some food for thought: 1 week after being banned, player da_killa is unbanned after "countless emails back and forth" blablabla. I report him playing again the day he is (silently) unbanned, asking what is up - he is playing on like 6-7 cashgame tables + the anti collusion freeroll (lol) that day. the very next after posting this he magically dissapears and stops playing on the site alltogether after going through all the hoops of being unbanned and instantly jumping into games once he is. so what new screenname did u give him/allow him to create ? because he surely wont stop playing 1 day after he is unbanned. this is ridiculous. please post his and drajls new screennames in here so that he doesnt have an unfair advantage at the tables (again).
Also there still hasnt been any refunds whatsoever besides unbanning the colluder after a few days. solid priorities, tyvm.
3 weeks passed and we still wait for our refounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
any updates? the lack of communication here is simply mindblowing...
whoa just realzed this - "After several emails with this player and banning the other accounts associated," SO BETCOIN ANDREW - WHAT WERE THE OTHER ACCOUNTS ? DRAJL AND DA_KILLA WERE NOT THE ONLY ONES AS U SAID.
i want to know who else cheated me. ill wait one more week for you to at least give us a friggin update here, then ill make this public in other forums. this is simply not acceptable how you treat your customers here. this thread is goin for almost 5 (!!!) weeks now and u silently UNBANNED the cheaters after 1 week BEFORE refunding the cheated. and now simply try to ignore this thread, not having sent refuds after 5 weeks. did you by chance operate one or two of those accounts yourself ? this is ridiculous. why u wont ban them all, name ALL the names u banned , refund the players and move on
wtf betcoin. seriously. at least give us fucking update instead of ignoring this thread!
and not responding to my ticket from almost 3 weeks ago wont make me stop bumpin this ridic thread a well. what an amazingly bad customer service u display here, mindblowing....
you should at least remove zero from the headline...
I encourage everyone to go and read the through the responses to this thread from last February. They are behaving the same way today, ignoring those who bring up serious issues - and responding/rewarding those who compliment - essentially turning players on each other.https://www.betcoin.ag/collusion-soft-play-cheating-zero-tolerance-betcoin-pokerPS - To Betcoin.ag, I already took screen shots of everything.