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legendary
Activity: 2632
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Yes, I'm an asshole
August 26, 2024, 12:26:45 PM
I am in contact with lawyers, who might be interested in this case. Will keep the forum posted. I am using them against another rouge casino, and I am happy with them so far.
Sorry if this is a noob question, but I am curious to know how you are doing to get the persons behind this casino since they never made any public reveal of their true identities, and let me say that I am not sure if they ever made available to the public; an office address that is really identifiable or locatable.

I want to hope that your case against the casino doesn't end up like that of the guys who sued 1xbit, but because the casinos doesn't have a physical office, and the people behind the casino can not be identified, they casino continued to run and there was nothing the court or lawsuit could do to stop the casino.

My guess, since Stayzor pursued the lawsuit path and asked for details about Betnomi's license number, they can ask the court to subpoena the registration office to surrender the details of the person registering Nomi N.V. [if that's not Sorsis himself] and/or other details about Betnomi's official company details that's otherwise kept private and inaccessible for public eyes.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
August 26, 2024, 12:10:39 PM
@holydarkness I’m curious on how do you get screenshot of Betnomi license? It’s from the original website right? Tried to access Betnomi website now but it’s not accessible anymore to confirm the details that you provide.

I think @stayzor is looking for exact Betnomi license number maybe for a potential case against this casino for leaving user behind.

Does Curacao license really have a power to punish casino that went rouge?

I am in contact with lawyers, who might be interested in this case. Will keep the forum posted. I am using them against another rouge casino, and I am happy with them so far.
Sorry if this is a noob question, but I am curious to know how you are doing to get the persons behind this casino since they never made any public reveal of their true identities, and let me say that I am not sure if they ever made available to the public; an office address that is really identifiable or locatable.

I want to hope that your case against the casino doesn't end up like that of the guys who sued 1xbit, but because the casinos doesn't have a physical office, and the people behind the casino can not be identified, they casino continued to run and there was nothing the court or lawsuit could do to stop the casino.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 7
August 26, 2024, 05:22:12 AM
Hi, does anyone here have proof of the curacao license number betnomi was operating under? Would be very much appriciated.

Betnomi? I'll assume you're talking about their company registration on Curacao instead of their gambling sub-license? That'll be 157643, under Nomi N.V.. If you're looking for Basebet instead of betnomi, that'll be 166632 under Base Online N.V.

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Thanks! Appricate it!
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 7
August 26, 2024, 05:17:55 AM
@holydarkness I’m curious on how do you get screenshot of Betnomi license? It’s from the original website right? Tried to access Betnomi website now but it’s not accessible anymore to confirm the details that you provide.

I think @stayzor is looking for exact Betnomi license number maybe for a potential case against this casino for leaving user behind.

Does Curacao license really have a power to punish casino that went rouge?

I am in contact with lawyers, who might be interested in this case. Will keep the forum posted. I am using them against another rouge casino, and I am happy with them so far.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
August 22, 2024, 12:27:20 PM
@holydarkness I’m curious on how do you get screenshot of Betnomi license? It’s from the original website right? Tried to access Betnomi website now but it’s not accessible anymore to confirm the details that you provide.

No, not exactly from "original" website, but yes, it's from "original" website. It's the archived version of the original, courtesy to waybackmachine.

Small tips: if you're looking about a website that's no longer accessible, or how it looks like few years before, there is a chance waybackmachine automatically crawled them [suppose someone didn't happen to manually archive the website] and have an archived version of them, thus can show you the information you seek that's otherwise no longer available. It helps me from time to time to see what a [scam] website used to be before they're purchased, changed hand, and redesigned to scam the forum.

I think @stayzor is looking for exact Betnomi license number maybe for a potential case against this casino for leaving user behind.

Does Curacao license really have a power to punish casino that went rouge?

Ok, I'm officially confused here. Are we talking about "Curacao license" as in master license holder [GC, CEG, Antillephone, CIL] or the registry office?

The extent of the former would [I think] limited to revoking the license of a casino if they're found guilty, of which a legit casino would perceive them as a very severe punishment and will do their best to adhere to the ruling made by the master licensor, but no longer has power over betnomi as they... well, suppose it hadn't already, I believe sorsis won't mind much if his betnomi license get burned and revoked.

The extent of the later will be stronger, though require people to exhaust a more extensive effort as well, through pursuing legal suit, by binding the entities to Curacao Law.
hero member
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August 22, 2024, 11:30:44 AM
@holydarkness I’m curious on how do you get screenshot of Betnomi license? It’s from the original website right? Tried to access Betnomi website now but it’s not accessible anymore to confirm the details that you provide.

I think @stayzor is looking for exact Betnomi license number maybe for a potential case against this casino for leaving user behind.

Does Curacao license really have a power to punish casino that went rouge?
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
August 22, 2024, 11:22:38 AM
Hi, does anyone here have proof of the curacao license number betnomi was operating under? Would be very much appriciated.

Betnomi? I'll assume you're talking about their company registration on Curacao instead of their gambling sub-license? That'll be 157643, under Nomi N.V.. If you're looking for Basebet instead of betnomi, that'll be 166632 under Base Online N.V.



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legendary
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August 22, 2024, 09:36:38 AM
I was in one of those promotions btw, it was years ago but I remember coming 2nd in a Poker contest or tournament and it was with a nice prize for the top placement in that tournament while also being a free entry.
  That was a nice bonus for people involved in the poker at the time and I was really not that active on the thread, I dont remember playing the game every week.  I'm just a casual poker player so was super happy to get 2nd as an accomplishment.

I have things going on and never got round to using or collecting my winnings, so I lost that in whatever happened here since then.  Entirely my fault, I just see people mentioning what was promoted and thats the part I remember.

Somebodys dad won, came first out of like a dozen players?  He wasnt expert Vegas pro or anything just a dude with alot of experience to spot the plays I guess.   I hope I've improved a bit since then or at least gained more experience.


People using the site or promoting the site aren't responsible for mistakes made in actual operation of a site.  Once you are an owner or operator then its alot different but promotion is another job given out, advertising is not operation its a service performed etc..   Another not small site I know of just absorbs users balances after a few months, if you are ill, away or distracted then whats yours becomes theres I find that equally bad tbh.  Its in the terms but thats not acceptable imo.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 7
August 22, 2024, 08:28:53 AM
Hi, does anyone here have proof of the curacao license number betnomi was operating under? Would be very much appriciated.
jr. member
Activity: 151
Merit: 4
New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

Weren't you promoting them at some point? Zero fallout for the people doing that I noticed, even after defending complaints. We both know if the money's right, at least one person will try.
I did promote them a few years back and at the time they were running like everything was going fine. Noone can tell when a company will or won't scam though. Anyone who is managing a company that turns scam is immediately expected to stop promotion of the company, not like managers tell companies to scam everyone long as they pay us.

I had long left promoting the company before they started doing their shady shit to users.

I went through the betnomi thread where there was multiple legit complaints, which you defended against whilst promoting. Icopress did the same up until they realised it just looked bad. The point is no one really gives a fuck until the money stops. I guarantee basebet will not only be promoted here but successfully.
This will be my last reply on this issue as arguing with you is pretty pointless, but while I was managing their campaign there were scam accusations but how many were true? 90% of the accusations made against companies here are just pissed off users such as you trying to pressure a company into paying. Basically extortion attempts.

Like I said, I stopped promoting them well before any serious allegations came and someone else took over, what happened while they were promoting has nothing to do with me. Your issue isn't with me, so let's keep it that way.

I got my money? I see your appraising of facts is as good as your probability calculations.
legendary
Activity: 3682
Merit: 4469
New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

Weren't you promoting them at some point? Zero fallout for the people doing that I noticed, even after defending complaints. We both know if the money's right, at least one person will try.
I did promote them a few years back and at the time they were running like everything was going fine. Noone can tell when a company will or won't scam though. Anyone who is managing a company that turns scam is immediately expected to stop promotion of the company, not like managers tell companies to scam everyone long as they pay us.

I had long left promoting the company before they started doing their shady shit to users.

I went through the betnomi thread where there was multiple legit complaints, which you defended against whilst promoting. Icopress did the same up until they realised it just looked bad. The point is no one really gives a fuck until the money stops. I guarantee basebet will not only be promoted here but successfully.
This will be my last reply on this issue as arguing with you is pretty pointless, but while I was managing their campaign there were scam accusations but how many were true? 90% of the accusations made against companies here are just pissed off users such as you trying to pressure a company into paying. Basically extortion attempts.

Like I said, I stopped promoting them well before any serious allegations came and someone else took over, what happened while they were promoting has nothing to do with me. Your issue isn't with me, so let's keep it that way.
jr. member
Activity: 151
Merit: 4
New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

Weren't you promoting them at some point? Zero fallout for the people doing that I noticed, even after defending complaints. We both know if the money's right, at least one person will try.
I did promote them a few years back and at the time they were running like everything was going fine. Noone can tell when a company will or won't scam though. Anyone who is managing a company that turns scam is immediately expected to stop promotion of the company, not like managers tell companies to scam everyone long as they pay us.

I had long left promoting the company before they started doing their shady shit to users.

I went through the betnomi thread where there was multiple legit complaints, which you defended against whilst promoting. Icopress did the same up until they realised it just looked bad. The point is no one really gives a fuck until the money stops. I guarantee basebet will not only be promoted here but successfully.
legendary
Activity: 3682
Merit: 4469
New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

Weren't you promoting them at some point? Zero fallout for the people doing that I noticed, even after defending complaints. We both know if the money's right, at least one person will try.
I did promote them a few years back and at the time they were running like everything was going fine. Noone can tell when a company will or won't scam though. Anyone who is managing a company that turns scam is immediately expected to stop promotion of the company, not like managers tell companies to scam everyone long as they pay us.

I had long left promoting the company before they started doing their shady shit to users.
jr. member
Activity: 151
Merit: 4
New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

Weren't you promoting them at some point? Zero fallout for the people doing that I noticed, even after defending complaints. We both know if the money's right, at least one person will try.
full member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 149
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?
I don't know about that. Trash sites like 1xbit attracted posters in droves who were willing to sell their souls for money which is why the same could happen with basebet in my opinion.

Such fools don't care about getting red tagged and acquiring a bad reputation within this forum basically.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 481
This is not about 1xbit casino or any of their brands. This is about Betnomi and their unprofessional behavior towards their players and this community. Maybe you mentioned the wrong casino by mistake, but that is also another casino that has a trash reputation in the bitcoin world.
People are ordinary aggressive towards any scam casinos and won't wait a minute before associating with any already known scan casino so I believe the mate have mentioned 1xbit deliberately just to refresh our memories towards another similar scam casino aside betnomi, who have proven to be unfair in their judgement and at the same time their have betrayed the trust of forum members.

Regardless of what the outcome could be, betnomi is equal to 1xbit as both hard trash reputation and active unresolved scam accusations against them.
legendary
Activity: 3682
Merit: 4469
New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

I don't think Sorsis will bother to return here, he knows better that his new casino is already tainted, marked, and extremely likely will get flags and negative trust the instance it created a representative account on the forum. If his new casino succeeded out there, the more likely scenario than not will be like the one with 1xbit, they have name out there, but a very much untrusted casino in here.
When you talk of 1xbit bitcoin casino, then you remind me of something else, since I've been seeing a platform of casino have not seen a platform that act like a 1xbit so I don't think that there is anybody that will like 1xbit to come back again because when they were in this full room that was a lot of accusation against them which they were unable to clarify such accusations even though people who don't know them cannot like to associate with them when then come back because they have already had a bad name in their  casino platform
This is not about 1xbit casino or any of their brands. This is about Betnomi and their unprofessional behavior towards their players and this community. Maybe you mentioned the wrong casino by mistake, but that is also another casino that has a trash reputation in the bitcoin world.
full member
Activity: 560
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New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

I don't think Sorsis will bother to return here, he knows better that his new casino is already tainted, marked, and extremely likely will get flags and negative trust the instance it created a representative account on the forum. If his new casino succeeded out there, the more likely scenario than not will be like the one with 1xbit, they have name out there, but a very much untrusted casino in here.
When you talk of 1xbit bitcoin casino, then you remind me of something else, since I've been seeing a platform of casino have not seen a platform that act like a 1xbit so I don't think that there is anybody that will like 1xbit to come back again because when they were in this full room that was a lot of accusation against them which they were unable to clarify such accusations even though people who don't know them cannot like to associate with them when then come back because they have already had a bad name in their  casino platform
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

I don't think Sorsis will bother to return here, he knows better that his new casino is already tainted, marked, and extremely likely will get flags and negative trust the instance it created a representative account on the forum. If his new casino succeeded out there, the more likely scenario than not will be like the one with 1xbit, they have name out there, but a very much untrusted casino in here.
legendary
Activity: 3682
Merit: 4469
New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?
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