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Quote from: Betwrong on April 16, 2024, 08:48:13 AM

Quote from: SamReomo on April 15, 2024, 02:57:55 PM

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Betnomi hasn't refunded anyone and put that solved thing on this thread. They can't return the money of the investors and players because they might have already spent that money on wrong things. Such scammers can't really do anything good, but when it comes to bad things then they are always ready. I feed bad for all those investors and players who deposited their money on Betnomi, they will come with a new brand and do the same once again.

What are I you talking about? They refunded me at least, that's what I'm sure of. They transferred more than $350 in BTC and Tether to the addresses I gave them. Who exactly wasn't refunded in your opinion? Did I miss something? Have you personally had money there? It took some time, yes, but in the end they have refunded everyone, I think.

I think SamReomo might not have read some posts, especially on your side, or he might not know what happened to your refund balance. I also think you don't fully know what's happening. However, it's true that some players still haven't received a refund and yet their new domain or let's say their new casino (Basebet), previously operated by the same entity behind Betnomi, is now operational and accepting deposits.

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Quote from: holydarkness on April 12, 2024, 05:59:09 AM

They still don't have e-gaming license, in a sense that they're currently a "rogue" casino, if anyone ever has a dispute with them, their only means of resolution will be with their staff, they can't escalate it to higher authority.

I'm not sure what you tried to mean here by the 'e-gaming license'. According to this post of yours, they have taken the license from Gaming Curacao N.V. (365/JAZ). This master license operator website doesn't work anymore (Gaming-curacao.com). Anyway, I think it is possible to get help from Morganite Corporate Services B.V. for a dispute, it is 'statutory director' of Base Online N.V. Whatever, the license doesn't bring any value for Basebet as the Owner is a scammer. Sorsis scammed the users of Betnomi openly despite having a gaming license from Curacao.

Quote from: Betwrong on April 16, 2024, 08:48:13 AM

It took some time, yes, but in the end they have refunded everyone, I think.

Everyone! Are you sure about this? I would like to ask you to read this post again.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 16, 2024, 08:48:13 AM

Quote from: SamReomo on April 15, 2024, 02:57:55 PM

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Betnomi hasn't refunded anyone and put that solved thing on this thread. They can't return the money of the investors and players because they might have already spent that money on wrong things. Such scammers can't really do anything good, but when it comes to bad things then they are always ready. I feed bad for all those investors and players who deposited their money on Betnomi, they will come with a new brand and do the same once again.

What are I you talking about? They refunded me at least, that's what I'm sure of. They transferred more than $350 in BTC and Tether to the addresses I gave them. Who exactly wasn't refunded in your opinion? Did I miss something? Have you personally had money there? It took some time, yes, but in the end they have refunded everyone, I think.

Mate, you really seem to be out of your mind (no personal offense, you know I like you and we have known for quite some time now) if you feel the Betnomi shit show group is legit - they are not and I am not even going to repeat everything for the 100th time. Oh, and personally I couldn`t care less, allow me to repeat that it`s not some crusade or anything, they don`t owe me s***.

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Quote from: SamReomo on April 15, 2024, 02:57:55 PM

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Betnomi hasn't refunded anyone and put that solved thing on this thread. They can't return the money of the investors and players because they might have already spent that money on wrong things. Such scammers can't really do anything good, but when it comes to bad things then they are always ready. I feed bad for all those investors and players who deposited their money on Betnomi, they will come with a new brand and do the same once again.

What are I you talking about? They refunded me at least, that's what I'm sure of. They transferred more than $350 in BTC and Tether to the addresses I gave them. Who exactly wasn't refunded in your opinion? Did I miss something? Have you personally had money there? It took some time, yes, but in the end they have refunded everyone, I think.

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Quote from: avp2306 on April 15, 2024, 02:00:43 PM

They do a massive campaigns anywhere and they find it that its more effective to get huge engagement on Meta by the help of those famous streamers to maximize their exposure in certain countries. That's why its unfortunate to see those innocent people has been dragged by their favorite streamer on the scam casino and became a potential victim in future.

These days the casino has found another way to scam the users by creating AI generated videos of the celebrities to misguide the innocent users. I often see such ads of 1xBet on Meta, and I'm very sure that with the help of such ads they might trap many newbies fans of those celebrities who might think that their favorite actor is suggesting them a platform, and that's why the platform must be a legit one.

Betnomi hasn't refunded anyone and put that solved thing on this thread. They can't return the money of the investors and players because they might have already spent that money on wrong things. Such scammers can't really do anything good, but when it comes to bad things then they are always ready. I feed bad for all those investors and players who deposited their money on Betnomi, they will come with a new brand and do the same once again.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 12, 2024, 03:41:31 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on April 12, 2024, 11:15:30 AM

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And can we do anything about it? Probably not... but I am sure it will be interesting when some newbies start complaining.

Though Betnomi cannot even be compared with a group such as the one 1xbit (1xBet) belongs to... 1xBet has sponsorship agreements with HUGE brands all over the world (not even talking about expired ones), for example:
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Here in the Philippines, there are also many individuals sponsored by 1xbet, such as Dota 2 and ML streamers. The same goes for tournaments (Dota 2, CSGO, and many more). Also there's Facebook group in the Philippines with numerous sports bettors using 1xbet, although it appears they're unaware of the numerous scam accusations against 1xbet. Many group members have also reported not receiving payment, yet they continue playing on 1xbet.

They do a massive campaigns anywhere and they find it that its more effective to get huge engagement on Meta by the help of those famous streamers to maximize their exposure in certain countries. That's why its unfortunate to see those innocent people has been dragged by their favorite streamer on the scam casino and became a potential victim in future.

Also for sure that those streamers or influencers doesn't know the reputation of 1xbet since they are not aware of the activities done by this casino that's why they accept its sponsorship also their main intention is to earn a lot of money to earn a living that's why they don't maybe bother to do research about what they are promoting.

Well, I didn't want to compare Betnomi and 1xBit... I wanted to point out that 1xBit is still working, even though they have so many scam accusations. Betnomi is a different case for sure, and now their team will just rebrand everything and start the new scheme. My question was what we can do about it, can we do anything about it? Of course, we will stop playing there, and we will warn others about all the dangers, but that will not stop these two casinos from continuing to scam players... all players in Betnomi's case, or selective scamming in 1xBit case (as Examplnes pointed out).

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Quote from: efialtis on April 15, 2024, 06:06:59 AM

Quote from: iv4n on April 12, 2024, 03:41:31 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on April 12, 2024, 11:15:30 AM

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95% For the user from past website are not gonna to play into new site, they just don't want to go into the same hole again.

It's still strange to me how 1xbit still works, after so many scams and red flags they still operate... so I guess this will be the same thing,
I believe that 95% of people from here will not use Basebet casino, but Sorsis will attract some people (mostly new players) outside this forum and he will continue to run a casino like nothing happened.

And can we do anything about it? Probably not... but I am sure it will be interesting when some newbies start complaining.

Though Betnomi cannot even be compared with a group such as the one 1xbit (1xBet) belongs to... 1xBet has sponsorship agreements with HUGE brands all over the world (not even talking about expired ones), for example:

FC Barcelona (Global Partner)
Team Spirit (Esports / Title Partner)
OG Esports (Betting Sponsor)
Paris Saint-Germain (Regional Partner Africa/Asia)
Tundra Esports (Betting Sponsor)
LOSC Lille (Regional Partner)
Professional Fighters League (Official Sportsbook)
Samuel Eto (Brand Ambassador)
Mohun Bagan Super Giant (Shirt Sponsor)

Here in the Philippines, there are also many individuals sponsored by 1xbet, such as Dota 2 and ML streamers. The same goes for tournaments (Dota 2, CSGO, and many more). Also there's Facebook group in the Philippines with numerous sports bettors using 1xbet, although it appears they're unaware of the numerous scam accusations against 1xbet. Many group members have also reported not receiving payment, yet they continue playing on 1xbet.

They do a massive campaigns anywhere and they find it that its more effective to get huge engagement on Meta by the help of those famous streamers to maximize their exposure in certain countries. That's why its unfortunate to see those innocent people has been dragged by their favorite streamer on the scam casino and became a potential victim in future.

Also for sure that those streamers or influencers doesn't know the reputation of 1xbet since they are not aware of the activities done by this casino that's why they accept its sponsorship also their main intention is to earn a lot of money to earn a living that's why they don't maybe bother to do research about what they are promoting.

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Quote from: efialtis on April 15, 2024, 06:06:59 AM

Quote from: iv4n on April 12, 2024, 03:41:31 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on April 12, 2024, 11:15:30 AM

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95% For the user from past website are not gonna to play into new site, they just don't want to go into the same hole again.

It's still strange to me how 1xbit still works, after so many scams and red flags they still operate... so I guess this will be the same thing,
I believe that 95% of people from here will not use Basebet casino, but Sorsis will attract some people (mostly new players) outside this forum and he will continue to run a casino like nothing happened.

And can we do anything about it? Probably not... but I am sure it will be interesting when some newbies start complaining.

Though Betnomi cannot even be compared with a group such as the one 1xbit (1xBet) belongs to... 1xBet has sponsorship agreements with HUGE brands all over the world (not even talking about expired ones), for example:

FC Barcelona (Global Partner)
Team Spirit (Esports / Title Partner)
OG Esports (Betting Sponsor)
Paris Saint-Germain (Regional Partner Africa/Asia)
Tundra Esports (Betting Sponsor)
LOSC Lille (Regional Partner)
Professional Fighters League (Official Sportsbook)
Samuel Eto (Brand Ambassador)
Mohun Bagan Super Giant (Shirt Sponsor)

Here in the Philippines, there are also many individuals sponsored by 1xbet, such as Dota 2 and ML streamers. The same goes for tournaments (Dota 2, CSGO, and many more). Also there's Facebook group in the Philippines with numerous sports bettors using 1xbet, although it appears they're unaware of the numerous scam accusations against 1xbet. Many group members have also reported not receiving payment, yet they continue playing on 1xbet.

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Quote from: Onyeeze on April 13, 2024, 03:32:39 AM

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Quote from: examplens on April 12, 2024, 04:54:34 PM

Because they are selective scammers. They didn't harm every user, but only a few percent, so they still have a solid base of satisfied customers. Plus if you remember their signature campaign, there was a large number of those who wanted to participate, regardless of whether they knew it was a scam casino. Imagine how many promoters, and influencers are not interested in their reputation if they pay well for promotion.
For example, I know about a satirical account on Twitter, Trollfootball, they have really funny tweets and a large follower base, but I also saw 1xbet sponsorship on their line.

But still it's really weird and vexing to me that they're still able to operated despite that but then again with selectively scamming people, you can easily just dismiss them as people that are trying to mudsling and destroy your reputation but it didn't work for 1xbit because they got to greedy and they've gone over to how much people they're going to scam, it's for the better that they did though because now, everyone knows their name and it's quickly associated with scammers and scams perpetrated to gamblers that just want to have fun. 1xbit and 1xbet I think is a separate entity because I do believe that there's times that I've seen 1xbet being promoted by some streamers and there's not a lot of issues with them so either it's a separate gambling organization or 1xbit is just scamming people on their crypto side. Good for Betnomi that they've finally solved all their issues afaik, hopefully there's going to be a restoration of trust because this is something that would be difficult to let go.

but why is that many people who is into gambling opening websites mostly casino always to get scam issues, is that they intentional have the issues or not, because their is something I understand in this gambling websites now, they do be accused and any allegations lend by people to them, their is always be atoms of truth concerning it, so I believe that most of the casino gambling platform do have negative intentions, I did not meet 1xbit and betnomi when they were in existence in the forum, but I have read 1xbit accusations and truely those people are people of scam.

This is why it would really be always that relevant or something which is really in default on making out some searches or trying out to read up some information whether a site does have some pending issues or complaints on which you could really be able to picture out whether they could be trusted or not. People do usually mess up their gambling experiences if they would really be that too careless
about their decisions on which or what are the sites that they would really be that dealing with. Sometimes there are ones who are really that too skeptical and there are ones who are over confident.

As for Betnomi and their new site then just like been said that as long they wont really be able resolve out their current issues or having some pending then it would really be that automatically
dragging out their new site into their old site when it comes in overall credibility and pretty sure that Betnomi is aware of that.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 12, 2024, 03:41:31 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on April 12, 2024, 11:15:30 AM

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95% For the user from past website are not gonna to play into new site, they just don't want to go into the same hole again.

It's still strange to me how 1xbit still works, after so many scams and red flags they still operate... so I guess this will be the same thing,
I believe that 95% of people from here will not use Basebet casino, but Sorsis will attract some people (mostly new players) outside this forum and he will continue to run a casino like nothing happened.

And can we do anything about it? Probably not... but I am sure it will be interesting when some newbies start complaining.

Though Betnomi cannot even be compared with a group such as the one 1xbit (1xBet) belongs to... 1xBet has sponsorship agreements with HUGE brands all over the world (not even talking about expired ones), for example:

FC Barcelona (Global Partner)
Team Spirit (Esports / Title Partner)
OG Esports (Betting Sponsor)
Paris Saint-Germain (Regional Partner Africa/Asia)
Tundra Esports (Betting Sponsor)
LOSC Lille (Regional Partner)
Professional Fighters League (Official Sportsbook)
Samuel Eto (Brand Ambassador)
Mohun Bagan Super Giant (Shirt Sponsor)

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Quote from: Onyeeze on April 13, 2024, 03:32:39 AM

Quote from: blckhawk on April 13, 2024, 02:56:32 AM

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but why is that many people who is into gambling opening websites mostly casino always to get scam issues, is that they intentional have the issues or not, because their is something I understand in this gambling websites now, they do be accused and any allegations lend by people to them, their is always be atoms of truth concerning it, so I believe that most of the casino gambling platform do have negative intentions, I did not meet 1xbit and betnomi when they were in existence in the forum, but I have read 1xbit accusations and truely those people are people of scam.

I guess they just picked the wrong gambling website and they ended up getting screwed over, we have to understand that some of these websites aren't optimized or built the right way, most of them are built by newbie programmers or juniors that have little experience with making a good website, most of the time these issues of funds getting stuck or lost is really the fault of having a really bad back end which is really scary for the players and when it does happen and the gambling website doesn't know what to do, they end up not knowing how to resolve the issue thus leading to those issues becoming a scam or I'm just saying stuff and they're not having these issues and that they just want to get your money and you can't do much about them anyway.

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Quote from: blckhawk on April 13, 2024, 02:56:32 AM

Quote from: examplens on April 12, 2024, 04:54:34 PM

Because they are selective scammers. They didn't harm every user, but only a few percent, so they still have a solid base of satisfied customers. Plus if you remember their signature campaign, there was a large number of those who wanted to participate, regardless of whether they knew it was a scam casino. Imagine how many promoters, and influencers are not interested in their reputation if they pay well for promotion.
For example, I know about a satirical account on Twitter, Trollfootball, they have really funny tweets and a large follower base, but I also saw 1xbet sponsorship on their line.

But still it's really weird and vexing to me that they're still able to operated despite that but then again with selectively scamming people, you can easily just dismiss them as people that are trying to mudsling and destroy your reputation but it didn't work for 1xbit because they got to greedy and they've gone over to how much people they're going to scam, it's for the better that they did though because now, everyone knows their name and it's quickly associated with scammers and scams perpetrated to gamblers that just want to have fun. 1xbit and 1xbet I think is a separate entity because I do believe that there's times that I've seen 1xbet being promoted by some streamers and there's not a lot of issues with them so either it's a separate gambling organization or 1xbit is just scamming people on their crypto side. Good for Betnomi that they've finally solved all their issues afaik, hopefully there's going to be a restoration of trust because this is something that would be difficult to let go.

but why is that many people who is into gambling opening websites mostly casino always to get scam issues, is that they intentional have the issues or not, because their is something I understand in this gambling websites now, they do be accused and any allegations lend by people to them, their is always be atoms of truth concerning it, so I believe that most of the casino gambling platform do have negative intentions, I did not meet 1xbit and betnomi when they were in existence in the forum, but I have read 1xbit accusations and truely those people are people of scam.

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Quote from: examplens on April 12, 2024, 04:54:34 PM

Because they are selective scammers. They didn't harm every user, but only a few percent, so they still have a solid base of satisfied customers. Plus if you remember their signature campaign, there was a large number of those who wanted to participate, regardless of whether they knew it was a scam casino. Imagine how many promoters, and influencers are not interested in their reputation if they pay well for promotion.
For example, I know about a satirical account on Twitter, Trollfootball, they have really funny tweets and a large follower base, but I also saw 1xbet sponsorship on their line.

But still it's really weird and vexing to me that they're still able to operated despite that but then again with selectively scamming people, you can easily just dismiss them as people that are trying to mudsling and destroy your reputation but it didn't work for 1xbit because they got to greedy and they've gone over to how much people they're going to scam, it's for the better that they did though because now, everyone knows their name and it's quickly associated with scammers and scams perpetrated to gamblers that just want to have fun. 1xbit and 1xbet I think is a separate entity because I do believe that there's times that I've seen 1xbet being promoted by some streamers and there's not a lot of issues with them so either it's a separate gambling organization or 1xbit is just scamming people on their crypto side. Good for Betnomi that they've finally solved all their issues afaik, hopefully there's going to be a restoration of trust because this is something that would be difficult to let go.

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Quote from: examplens on April 12, 2024, 04:54:34 PM

Quote from: iv4n on April 12, 2024, 03:41:31 PM

It's still strange to me how 1xbit still works, after so many scams and red flags they still operate... so I guess this will be the same thing,

Because they are selective scammers. They didn't harm every user, but only a few percent, so they still have a solid base of satisfied customers. Plus if you remember their signature campaign, there was a large number of those who wanted to participate, regardless of whether they knew it was a scam casino. Imagine how many promoters, and influencers are not interested in their reputation if they pay well for promotion.
For example, I know about a satirical account on Twitter, Trollfootball, they have really funny tweets and a large follower base, but I also saw 1xbet sponsorship on their line.

Scammers will always rob on all, even if not at the same level, sometimes those 1xbits scammers and they affiliate that are still up and running the business will scan and go in Noticed anyways it may be referred to as selective scamming or whatsoever ever but then scam at any level if noticed most be called out, so I can say that 1xbits is still in operation because their are professional scammers and have managed to build some fake public audience that we can't even prove which are real users or bots, because most of those that complain about they scams are all newbies so that speaks alot about the level at which their operates.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 12, 2024, 03:41:31 PM

It's still strange to me how 1xbit still works, after so many scams and red flags they still operate... so I guess this will be the same thing,

Because they are selective scammers. They didn't harm every user, but only a few percent, so they still have a solid base of satisfied customers. Plus if you remember their signature campaign, there was a large number of those who wanted to participate, regardless of whether they knew it was a scam casino. Imagine how many promoters, and influencers are not interested in their reputation if they pay well for promotion.
For example, I know about a satirical account on Twitter, Trollfootball, they have really funny tweets and a large follower base, but I also saw 1xbet sponsorship on their line.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 12, 2024, 11:15:30 AM

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95% For the user from past website are not gonna to play into new site, they just don't want to go into the same hole again.

It's still strange to me how 1xbit still works, after so many scams and red flags they still operate... so I guess this will be the same thing,
I believe that 95% of people from here will not use Basebet casino, but Sorsis will attract some people (mostly new players) outside this forum and he will continue to run a casino like nothing happened.

And can we do anything about it? Probably not... but I am sure it will be interesting when some newbies start complaining.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 12, 2024, 11:15:30 AM

Quote from: holydarkness on April 12, 2024, 05:59:09 AM

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Still bulshit for me for any kind of (License).

We already seeing so many casino turned into a scam, even they have license.

Yet, the existence of a license adds a layer of security of possible dispute resolution when a player experience a situation with a casino that can not be solved by the forum and/or ADR bodies.

Without license, much like basebet right now, players can only resort to the forum and third party arbitrator, which the casino [judging from their past history] can and will very likely to ignore.

Thus, the presence of a sub-license, bullshit or not, adds a layer of confidence in gambling experience. And likewise, the absence of it should raise big enough concern and caution to proceed with the platform.

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Quote from: holydarkness on April 12, 2024, 05:59:09 AM

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Still bulshit for me for any kind of (License).

We already seeing so many casino turned into a scam, even they have license.

Quote from: wiss19 on April 12, 2024, 10:45:03 AM

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IMO, since they put a lot marketing money into (Betnomi)

They're just hoping some of player are migrated to the new site, even they doing the refund. From my perspective the tags should be still on there, perhaps with neutral or other tag to inform their past history.
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Quote from: Zadicar on April 10, 2024, 10:17:45 AM

If this is a fake comeback and its been mentioned that they had a new platform or site. As long they wont really be able to make some clearing up their issues then
it would really be making such huge impact into their new one, so there's no point that they would be leaving hanging on this one because we know that it would really be
making out that kind reflection into their new site.

And it doesn't make any sense to create a new site when they are still going to refund the users from their old site because people might gave them another chance and play on the same site. A true scammer won't ever pay and they will create a new scam platform without informing the public that they are the owner of the other scam platform.

Quote from: Zadicar on April 10, 2024, 10:17:45 AM

Its inevitable that these issues cant really be known by the public and once known then we do know on whats next.

When you say public, that means a lot of people and for sure there will always be people who are updated and they are aware of what Betnomi have gone through, making them to avoid it. This one of the advantages of being updated because you will know what is happening around and you can save yourself from a lot of threats.

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Quote from: holydarkness on April 11, 2024, 04:28:18 AM

One thing that I noticed when I visited their site yesterday was the lack of licensing authority's seal of validation, so I think they are running without any ~snip~

The license company Base Online N.V. is registered under Curacao commercial register now. Base Online N.V. has established less than a month ago. Their incorporation and establishment date is 18th March. However, they were showing the license information before obtaining it from Curacao. Now they have one, but they haven't added the license validator link.

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But I understand that it's just a company registration, a permit by Curacao govt. for them to run a business with a gambling nature. They still don't have e-gaming license, in a sense that they're currently a "rogue" casino, if anyone ever has a dispute with them, their only means of resolution will be with their staff, they can't escalate it to higher authority.

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