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Topic: Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! - page 6. (Read 6529 times)

full member
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Just posting here to confirm we got fully paid from BetNomi, thanks for your honesty and for getting back to us about this, it's highly appreciated.
It's good to hear that your issue got fully resolved, but I have no idea why you are thanking them in this context since they took quite sometime to get back to you while you stayed patient all along.

They should be the ones thanking you and other victims for staying patient and not creating a huge ruckus.
sr. member
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Hhampuz is the best manager
@Get-Paid.com Sent you a letter

Just posting here to confirm we got fully paid from BetNomi, thanks for your honesty and for getting back to us about this, it's highly appreciated.



Wow this is a good news for BetNomiz they paid you mate , and this is a very important thing to do in Their casino cause it will affect their performance and reputation do if they will solve all their issues then it's a big impact for them even though there's a delayed but still they are manage to pay on their responsibilites.
Anyways for you mate its nice to hear that you are already paid by them.

@Get-Paid.com Sent you a letter

Just posting here to confirm we got fully paid from BetNomi, thanks for your honesty and for getting back to us about this, it's highly appreciated.

May we know how much was the amount you got paid?
I don't think it so if He gonna say the amount but if he can then it's a big help for us cause once it's a big amount then we can say that BetNomi want to clear their name.
newbie
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@Get-Paid.com Sent you a letter

Just posting here to confirm we got fully paid from BetNomi, thanks for your honesty and for getting back to us about this, it's highly appreciated.

May we know how much was the amount you got paid?
sr. member
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@Get-Paid.com Sent you a letter

Just posting here to confirm we got fully paid from BetNomi, thanks for your honesty and for getting back to us about this, it's highly appreciated.

sr. member
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Hi there, just wanted to give you an update about my refund request. After betnomi-User told here, that also people who missed the initial message have a chance to get a refund, I requested it via Mail. Until today I didn't get any answer or a refund. So please betnomi, if you read this, just send my BTC back as you promised.

How much did they steal from you?

I don't know exactly because it's a long time ago. My request is about 0.02 BTC. It could be more, but I would be more as happy if I got that amount back.

@Wiwo said the right thing, if betnomi management has not returned your money (as you claim) then just keep an eye on this thread and continue to press them with the evidence you have.
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Hi there, just wanted to give you an update about my refund request. After betnomi-User told here, that also people who missed the initial message have a chance to get a refund, I requested it via Mail. Until today I didn't get any answer or a refund. So please betnomi, if you read this, just send my BTC back as you promised.
Well you can send a reminder to the email again and the confusing thing is that, the team did not give any specific timing as when they will respond to such requests or if the will reply to your email also.

But regardless I advice you send a follow-up reminder and wait a bit and keep an eye on this thread to see if you could lay your hand on anything eventually from the team representatives here in the forum.
newbie
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Hi there, just wanted to give you an update about my refund request. After betnomi-User told here, that also people who missed the initial message have a chance to get a refund, I requested it via Mail. Until today I didn't get any answer or a refund. So please betnomi, if you read this, just send my BTC back as you promised.

How much did they steal from you?

I don't know exactly because it's a long time ago. My request is about 0.02 BTC. It could be more, but I would be more as happy if I got that amount back.
jr. member
Activity: 131
Merit: 0
Hi there, just wanted to give you an update about my refund request. After betnomi-User told here, that also people who missed the initial message have a chance to get a refund, I requested it via Mail. Until today I didn't get any answer or a refund. So please betnomi, if you read this, just send my BTC back as you promised.

How much did they steal from you?
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
Hi there, just wanted to give you an update about my refund request. After betnomi-User told here, that also people who missed the initial message have a chance to get a refund, I requested it via Mail. Until today I didn't get any answer or a refund. So please betnomi, if you read this, just send my BTC back as you promised.
jr. member
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I dont violate the forum rules. I just googled on betnomi owner and saw that Sorsis Chatwin is the owner with company information regarding Betnomi. That is not a secret that he is the owner.
And the last users are right, if you win to much money on Betnomi they simply say that you are frauding or cheating and confiscate your funds.
What timeframe they are talking about? There are users like Gekkebelg who were on time to claim their funds, and Betnomi sas they frauded and give all kind of excuses not to pay.
And Sorsis created another gambling project, with another company registered, the old company is history, because he know he will get many lawsuit claims if he opens with the scam company Nomi n.v.

From the official registry from Curacao:

Nomi N.V.
The registration is discontinued as of September 15, 2023

Which basically means you have no legal right to claim anything anymore. Sorsis continues with their new scam project Basebet.io
For the moment, I can not find any company information from basebet.io so they might work without gambling license.
Be warned and do NOT play on basebet.io
full member
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We are already in March of 2024, so I don't think what is left the the Betnomi team are going to continue to process claims for refunds because of this fiasco. In my opinion, the window they offered for people of this community to ask for refunds was very narrow, keeping in mind the among of people potentially being scammed their money.
Here's what I think. They scammed gamblers, left and returned to act like they were trying their best to solve this entire mess, but they were just trying to lure gamblers over to their new site.

They did process some refunds by providing a narrow window as you mentioned, but were never going to refund everyone affected. Just my 2 cents.
newbie
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Too good at sportsbetting = doing fraud

You cant make this up haha
jr. member
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It is in the casino's interest for the user to play as much as possible. For the Sportsbook, the one and only reason a user will ever get limited is if they are engaged in fraud of some kind. The fact that you got limited is a clear indication you were engaged in fraud.
This is one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard. The founder of a crypto sportsbook calls every winning sports bettor a fraud.
By the way, the sports betting providers aren't perfect in profiling the customers, and long-term losers get limited all the time.

Nobody frauded on the website, except the owner. Betnomi does not want to pay out her customers and giving fake arguments to steal the funds!~
Can somebody please make sure this scam site gets a red card and their new site basebet.com as well?

when they say u fraud it mean u beat the clv too much lol
all the bookies are the same
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I already explained from the beginning that Betnomi is a scam project and does not pay big winners.
When people win, they suddenly cheated or defrauded. Sorsis chatwin is a scammer and every project he is involved in is scammed.
I am sure they are not going to pay the 100k that is still open balances from customers.

You are not saying anything new from what has been said here on this thread severally and even the current admin here has admitted to the fact that the former Betnomi is now under the control of some unknown guys who have stolen or lucked out all the users of betnomi which confirm the former betnomi as a scam and should be avoided.

What we are discussing right now isn't the refund process that this legit team put up to try to pay those who are affected by the action of the hackers and that if you are one of the victims you can reach out to the team by following the format of filing complaints.

We are already in March of 2024, so I don't think what is left the the Betnomi team are going to continue to process claims for refunds because of this fiasco. In my opinion, the window they offered for people of this community to ask for refunds was very narrow, keeping in mind the among of people potentially being scammed their money.

Information about the scammer Sorsis Chatwin (owner Betnomi), as well as his registered business address.

https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette

Be aware, according to the rules of the forum it is not allowed to post or openly share personal information or doxxing anyone on any section outside of the investigation section, be step down with the posting of personal information, otherwise someone could report you and it will be on the hands of a moderator to give you a temporary ban because of it.
I understand people is angry and disappointed on this casino, which seemed to be pretty much legit and of good quality, just do not ignore the rules and the etiquette of the forum as you continue/proceed with your investigation.
jr. member
Activity: 131
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Information about the scammer Sorsis Chatwin (owner Betnomi), as well as his registered business address.

https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
jr. member
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Nobody frauded on Betnomi. The owner is a criminal and just does not want to pay out customers, that is the only truth.
I wish people should have listened to me from the beginning, I warned everybody manytimes about Bitlucy and Betnomi but these DT idiots are responsible for the losses since they defend these kind of scam casino's.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
Regarding some of the above cases, it is interesting to hear about. Claiming you have completed KYC as if that clears you; it really doesn't.

We are revealing our secret approach to the whole KYC situation today. It was our decision not to apply KYC across the platform and only for users engaged in fraud. The idea and reasoning behind this are that if a user engages in fraud and we close their account, they will simply create a new account and do it again. We request KYC even if we intend to close the account; this way, they use their information to complete the KYC for the existing account. If they create a new account in the future, they will fail to pass the KYC because their information has already been used (if they use the same information), or else they must find someone else to provide their information to complete the KYC. In that event, they have to do some extra work to get a new account. Even in that case, we have systems in place to detect multiple accounts, so we can detect them for the most part.

Just for clarity, any user who has been asked to complete KYC without any questions was engaged in fraud of some kind, and we generally close the accounts after the KYC, as explained above.

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I might need a refresher course as I probably got things mixed up [to be honest, your case is a very long one] and confused a fact or two, but... weren't you initially said that you lost all of the database because your business partner sabotaged it, and the only reason you can get the data for these refund process is because you get it from a bare-minimum database that you have to upload to your regulator on weekly basis? Here, quoted below,

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Regarding the suggestion to send an email to users, this is clearly the most effective way to resolve this issue. However, as we mentioned in our initial statement, we do not have access to the database. We do have a limited version of the database that is shared with regulators for compliance purposes. If we had access to the actual site database, we would simply restore the site and allow users to withdraw their funds directly. Unfortunately, this is not the case, and we can only do what we can with the resources available to us.

If so, how can you tell that those accounts commited fraud? The data you uploaded to the regulator, according to you, are: "We only share usernames and user IDs for identification and never email addresses. They are private and should be protected to the degree that is possible."

You memorized their name or something?
copper member
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Since everyone's coming clean. Soris , it's cryptogodop90(lougambles) how about the 90,000 I won under streaming for you that I had to say pay me 25,000 and we call it even because 85% of your players at the time came from me and I specifically said when the site gets bigger I'll take the rest. Little to be known I never got another penny
hero member
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This is one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard. The founder of a crypto sportsbook calls every winning sports bettor a fraud.
By the way, the sports betting providers aren't perfect in profiling the customers, and long-term losers get limited all the time.

Using your brain to find a +EV bet is fraudulent - Betnomi
Even after 10 years in this business, it still never fails to amaze me how many clueless idiots/scammers there are in this space.
You read my mind perfectly. This is just embarassing if I am being honest. Anyone with a half-decent brain knows that sportsbooks do limit consistent winners not just for fraud, but because they are bad for their business financially.

I have gotten limited in a few sites myself for winning decent amounts consistently and I still play there now and then with small amounts. Silly stuff!
legendary
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We cannot take anyone seriously who doesn't even bother to read a page or two before commenting. An issue will be explained extensively, and a few comments later, another person is back asking the same issue, making it seem like the questions are not being answered. If you have any kind of interest in the subject, it behooves you to read before you comment. If you think it's not worth your time to understand the context from previous comments, then it is not worth our time responding to you.

Thank you all for your understanding.


Ser, pardon me for the cynical nature of the people in BitcoinTalk, including me. BUT it's not about WHO read what you posted or not, or for you to take anyone seriously or not. YOU are the entity that WE should be concerned about. What it should be about is whether you're actually telling the truth or not, and I'm sure everything will be verified and validated with enough time.

Furthermore, we know that you want to make everything right with the community, but I'm very sure it's not merely about that. It's about you too and the future incentives, financial or otherwise, that comes after fixing this. We give you thr benefit of the doubt.
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