Topic: Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! - page 10. (Read 7500 times)

If a handful number of users have complained about receiving spam messages, then none of the users received the refund. More people have talked about receiving spam messages than the number of users who confirmed about refund. I'm not against your refund plan, I also want the victim to get back their funds.

But how effective your refund process was? Hadn't you remained silent and intentionally kicked out the users who complained about their stuck funds on Betnomi on the telegram group? So, there is lack of transparency in your refund process. You are blaming a third person for all these things without providing any single evidence. User email database has either sold by you or by the shadow character which you have created.

Nobody frauded on the website, except the owner. Betnomi does not want to pay out her customers and giving fake arguments to steal the funds!~
Can somebody please make sure this scam site gets a red card and their new site basebet.com as well?

This is one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard. The founder of a crypto sportsbook calls every winning sports bettor a fraud.
By the way, the sports betting providers aren't perfect in profiling the customers, and long-term losers get limited all the time.

Using your brain to find a +EV bet is fraudulent - Betnomi
Even after 10 years in this business, it still never fails to amaze me how many clueless idiots/scammers there are in this space.

Thanks, already replied to it and waiting to hear back, thanks again.

@Get-Paid.com Sent you a letter

@nutters, we understand you are trying to paint a rosy picture here. The idea that casinos limit players who are winning is pretty laughable and clearly uninformed. The casino's revenue is dependent on the long-term playing of the users.

It is in the casino's interest for the user to play as much as possible. For the Sportsbook, the one and only reason a user will ever get limited is if they are engaged in fraud of some kind. The fact that you got limited is a clear indication you were engaged in fraud.

The casino sets an acceptable liability that determines the user's limit by default. If the user plays normally, the casino is betting the user will lose long term. If the user is engaged in fraud, the casino needs to take action to protect itself by limiting the user. We hope you learn something today.

You only made the withdrawal request because you got limited, and you got limited because you were engaged in fraud.

If you are required to complete KYC on your withdrawal, it is not simply because you requested a withdrawal. It is a result of your previous actions (fraud).

About the whole KYC thing and your inability to complete it, we used a third-party KYC provider (Veriff). It is an automated system and available 24/7. If you failed it, it's usually due to a few reasons:

1. Fake documents
2. Already did verification
3. Using unsupported documents

Passing or failing the KYC has nothing to do with our services or systems. This is 100% dependent on the provider we used, which is one of the best in the world.

You will have fewer problems in the future if you avoid abusing other Sportsbooks.

Betnomi scammed more than 100k and does not pay out winners!

@Mahdirakib, I don't mean to personally attack you, but without a doubt, you are displaying a very low level of intelligence. From day one, you have been fixated on this issue, making truly uninformed statements, and presenting your unsolicited opinions as facts.

I stated on the first page of this thread that shortly after the site went into maintenance mode, I had no access to the system or platform. Secondly, there is no definitive evidence that any third party had access to our database.

A handful of users mentioned receiving spam on their registered email addresses. Again, there is no evidence that anyone accessed the database, but you seem uninterested in facts or the truth. You are comfortable specifically calling me out by name, claiming I sold the database when:

1. You can't establish that I had access to the database in the first place.
2. The database was ever sold by anyone.
3. It was specifically sold by me.

Dealing with mindless bots like yourself is very frustrating. We are actively working to resolve the situation, and in the meantime, you are here making nonsensical statements and accusing people of things you have zero idea about. For what?

I already explained from the beginning that Betnomi is a scam project and does not pay big winners.
When people win, they suddenly cheated or defrauded. Sorsis chatwin is a scammer and every roject he is involved in is scammed.
I am sure they are not going to pay the 100k that is still open balances from customers.

Feel free to not respect my opinion all you want, I am right in saying that there are a high number of users that DO NOT care to read other replies. They DO NOT have any money coming, yet they still post in this thread. I cannot say that they cannot or shouldn't have an interest in posting about the refund status, but I feel like they don't.

What sorsis says period I DO NOT believe. He left the forum hanging for months and then came back with some BS story. He doesn't care about the users of this forum IMO. He makes up this story, tries to save face, and immediately tries to open a new site with a token sale. I cannot say 100% they will scam, but I would be skeptical playing there.

I used to respect your opinion as you are a reputable member in the forum. But I'm wondering in which basis you are blindly believing on Betnomi representative (Sorsis) words and saying that we are just posting here to meet our sig campaign quote! You have to look into the details instead of addressing us in this way.

Betnomi is still holding those users fund who had large balance. They accused some users and doing an investigation on some other users account now (with a large balance). The 'gentleman Sorsis' sold our email address to the spammers. Sorsis and his team have kicked out some victims from their telegram group who had complained about their stuck funds in the initial stage. They have also disabled the messages in their telegram group. This isn't a successful refund attempt by them. Still, they marked this thread as solved.

You pretty much stated that this situation hasn't been entirely resolved yet which is why I have no idea why you marked it as 'SOLVED' when it's obviously 'UNSOLVED'. This clearly confused many forum members.

Solving some small cases here and there don't really help improve your reputation much within this forum at the very least.

Regarding to your secret approach to kyc, I have never used other account in betnomi before nor have I ever been asked to pass kyc there before, It was my only one and first account there.
I was forced to complete kyc when I requested a withdrawal and meanwhile your service got shut down. Even some days before shutdown there was problem to complete it because the kyc validator was not working properly.


I understand that usually sites don't like winning players so they limit them, sometimes to the point where they can no longer play and when the player decides to withdraw his funds, he is asked to go through the KYC procedure so that he will not be able come back and to continue to bring losses to the casino by playing on other accounts. Also some regulators like MGA force on services to request KYC on user when he request withdrawal above 2000€ as anti money laundering procedure.
This is a common practice, however, your explanation is worded in such a way that winning anything in betnomi would mean a fraud.

I have completed KYC at few other casinos/bookmakers and none of them forced me to provide my sensitive details only to close my account and not pay me the balance accumulated on their services.


I don't understand your passive-agressive accusation to my person. I was put on list forwarded to external risk management team for verification so I menitoned about KYC to clarify that was only one orginal refund request sent by me with all correct information. in case if there would be real fraud like other refund attempt under my username as my betnomi username was publicly shown in the scam accusation thread. You did not inform us what exactly this external team will check, whether it will be account or refund request verification. why then even mention about it in refund form?


I have a slight impression that you are now trying to turn the situation around that the accounts with KYC are most liklely fraudlent and should not be paid. I'm guessing that most of these biggest amounts left belongs to users who have been asked for KYC or have already done so, isn't it a coincidence?

Again, how is wagering my deposit 1x on the biggest sport events fraud?

Well they do have to get their quotas in for their campaigns. People do not read replies period.

Done, thank you.

Nobody cheated on betnomi, Betnomi simply does not want to pay the customers. That is the only truth!
This site is the 2nd biggest scam site after 1xbit

Can you assure us that you're doing the right thing by explaining how exactly you determine those users had defrauded you, or that those who had their account already closed prior to your shut-down are scammers that doesn't eligible for a refund? Especially given in one or two cases, what happened was, their account got closed, they tried to get a resolution here, and before we can even hear from your side, any explanation at all, betnomi locked itself from any access. Stayzor's situation seems in an even worse shape, snippets of his complaint on CG,



He got his fund locked because your platform shut down. He... scammed you? How? Please assure us that it is an justified decision and not an empty air, that he scammed you, by providing explanation regarding his situation. Preferably with supporting evidence.

Regarding some of the above cases, it is interesting to hear about. Claiming you have completed KYC as if that clears you; it really doesn't.

We are revealing our secret approach to the whole KYC situation today. It was our decision not to apply KYC across the platform and only for users engaged in fraud. The idea and reasoning behind this are that if a user engages in fraud and we close their account, they will simply create a new account and do it again. We request KYC even if we intend to close the account; this way, they use their information to complete the KYC for the existing account. If they create a new account in the future, they will fail to pass the KYC because their information has already been used (if they use the same information), or else they must find someone else to provide their information to complete the KYC. In that event, they have to do some extra work to get a new account. Even in that case, we have systems in place to detect multiple accounts, so we can detect them for the most part.

Just for clarity, any user who has been asked to complete KYC without any questions was engaged in fraud of some kind, and we generally close the accounts after the KYC, as explained above.

There are some users who cried previously that their accounts were closed after they completed the KYC. Well, here is your explanation.

Less than 0.3% of our users had KYC, for context, and the fact that you had to complete KYC says it all.

As for the people trying to make it seem like we are making excuses not to pay these users, you have your explanations now. These accounts were already flagged/closed well before we ended our services. We only sent those accounts to the external risk management team for a good measure; we might be able to get some third-party report for those seeking proof.

Again, anyone who has any legitimate claim has been refunded, and the handful of cases above are being taken care of as well.

@Get-Paid.com, please send us a DM, and we will do well to resolve your issue for you.
It is unclear what the problem is as of now.

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We cannot take anyone seriously who doesn't even bother to read a page or two before commenting. An issue will be explained extensively, and a few comments later, another person is back asking the same issue, making it seem like the questions are not being answered. If you have any kind of interest in the subject, it behooves you to read before you comment. If you think it's not worth your time to understand the context from previous comments, then it is not worth our time responding to you.

Thank you all for your understanding.

If they don't bother to clear everything and keep on with their shady practice, ignoring the active and ongoing accusations against them, their new account will quite likely get similar tag from several DT. Not sure if all DT who tagged betnomi account will also tag the new account, but I believe some will. It's what happen with 1xBit and their new platform.

I think its useless to argue with the betnomi rep.
They seriously believe we have no right to question what they are doing, it's hilarious.
Marking this thread solved because me and 1 or 2 other people got our tiny bankroll back is funny and sad at the same time.
The people with the real money stuck at betnomi have to beg them to finally get paid.

If they come back to our forum with their new site the should get an appropriate trust rating I think, at least the same as their betnomi account. Ok, they maybe then have refunded some players from this forum, but what about the rest worldwide. This question was asked several times and never got an answer.