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New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
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I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

Weren't you promoting them at some point? Zero fallout for the people doing that I noticed, even after defending complaints. We both know if the money's right, at least one person will try.
I did promote them a few years back and at the time they were running like everything was going fine. Noone can tell when a company will or won't scam though. Anyone who is managing a company that turns scam is immediately expected to stop promotion of the company, not like managers tell companies to scam everyone long as they pay us.

I had long left promoting the company before they started doing their shady shit to users.

I went through the betnomi thread where there was multiple legit complaints, which you defended against whilst promoting. Icopress did the same up until they realised it just looked bad. The point is no one really gives a fuck until the money stops. I guarantee basebet will not only be promoted here but successfully.
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New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

Weren't you promoting them at some point? Zero fallout for the people doing that I noticed, even after defending complaints. We both know if the money's right, at least one person will try.
I did promote them a few years back and at the time they were running like everything was going fine. Noone can tell when a company will or won't scam though. Anyone who is managing a company that turns scam is immediately expected to stop promotion of the company, not like managers tell companies to scam everyone long as they pay us.

I had long left promoting the company before they started doing their shady shit to users.
jr. member
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New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

Weren't you promoting them at some point? Zero fallout for the people doing that I noticed, even after defending complaints. We both know if the money's right, at least one person will try.
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I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?
I don't know about that. Trash sites like 1xbit attracted posters in droves who were willing to sell their souls for money which is why the same could happen with basebet in my opinion.

Such fools don't care about getting red tagged and acquiring a bad reputation within this forum basically.
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This is not about 1xbit casino or any of their brands. This is about Betnomi and their unprofessional behavior towards their players and this community. Maybe you mentioned the wrong casino by mistake, but that is also another casino that has a trash reputation in the bitcoin world.
People are ordinary aggressive towards any scam casinos and won't wait a minute before associating with any already known scan casino so I believe the mate have mentioned 1xbit deliberately just to refresh our memories towards another similar scam casino aside betnomi, who have proven to be unfair in their judgement and at the same time their have betrayed the trust of forum members.

Regardless of what the outcome could be, betnomi is equal to 1xbit as both hard trash reputation and active unresolved scam accusations against them.
legendary
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New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

I don't think Sorsis will bother to return here, he knows better that his new casino is already tainted, marked, and extremely likely will get flags and negative trust the instance it created a representative account on the forum. If his new casino succeeded out there, the more likely scenario than not will be like the one with 1xbit, they have name out there, but a very much untrusted casino in here.
When you talk of 1xbit bitcoin casino, then you remind me of something else, since I've been seeing a platform of casino have not seen a platform that act like a 1xbit so I don't think that there is anybody that will like 1xbit to come back again because when they were in this full room that was a lot of accusation against them which they were unable to clarify such accusations even though people who don't know them cannot like to associate with them when then come back because they have already had a bad name in their  casino platform
This is not about 1xbit casino or any of their brands. This is about Betnomi and their unprofessional behavior towards their players and this community. Maybe you mentioned the wrong casino by mistake, but that is also another casino that has a trash reputation in the bitcoin world.
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New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

I don't think Sorsis will bother to return here, he knows better that his new casino is already tainted, marked, and extremely likely will get flags and negative trust the instance it created a representative account on the forum. If his new casino succeeded out there, the more likely scenario than not will be like the one with 1xbit, they have name out there, but a very much untrusted casino in here.
When you talk of 1xbit bitcoin casino, then you remind me of something else, since I've been seeing a platform of casino have not seen a platform that act like a 1xbit so I don't think that there is anybody that will like 1xbit to come back again because when they were in this full room that was a lot of accusation against them which they were unable to clarify such accusations even though people who don't know them cannot like to associate with them when then come back because they have already had a bad name in their  casino platform
legendary
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New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?

I don't think Sorsis will bother to return here, he knows better that his new casino is already tainted, marked, and extremely likely will get flags and negative trust the instance it created a representative account on the forum. If his new casino succeeded out there, the more likely scenario than not will be like the one with 1xbit, they have name out there, but a very much untrusted casino in here.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 4603
Contact @yahoo62278 on telegram for marketing
New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
I don't see the community getting behind these guys again. They were given a second chance on this site and tossed it in the garbage basically spitting in every users face who thought they might be worth giving a chance to. How can anyone actually believe that the new site will be different?
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Being that their actual new project, then I think it should be blacklisted by anyone who knows the situation which took place with Betnoni, to be honest.
Anyone shilling this new services, which are created right after the previous one failed to deliver in the bare minimum of refunding deposits is an accomplice in the continuation of such patterns within the gambling community. Shame on them, the same shame anyone who continues to shill and defend services as shady and untrustworthy as 1xbit are.

I only think I wonder is whether they would dare to even try to launch a signature campaign here on the forum, it would be the ultimate mockery to those who sadly end up losing money to the fall of Betnomi.  Sad

Those people who know what they do would provably avoid to gamble on their new casino. Since it will be so dumb decision for them to continue to support them while they still have a unresolved issues. For sure they will find another alternative platform since they know for theirselves that bitcointalk will not be a friendly place for them anymore since there would be a lot of criticism if they launch their new project here.

For thinking about if they would run a signature campaign here? I guess maybe they will not find this as good option for them to do so since they provably know the result. Also for sure that there's no reputable campaign manage will handle their campaign since they know that its so bad to help those frauds to help market their new business.
legendary
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Being that their actual new project, then I think it should be blacklisted by anyone who knows the situation which took place with Betnoni, to be honest.
Anyone shilling this new services, which are created right after the previous one failed to deliver in the bare minimum of refunding deposits is an accomplice in the continuation of such patterns within the gambling community. Shame on them, the same shame anyone who continues to shill and defend services as shady and untrustworthy as 1xbit are.

I only think I wonder is whether they would dare to even try to launch a signature campaign here on the forum, it would be the ultimate mockery to those who sadly end up losing money to the fall of Betnomi.  Sad
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New scam site is up, basebet https://www.basebet.io/ How long before BT users are shilling?
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin#google_vignette
legendary
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This is the sort of stuff that makes me appreciate sites like BTCGOSU way more than crappy review sites looking to make a quick buck. Learnt some new stuff which I wasn't aware of through your article.

Anyone with a half-decent brain can tell that Betnomi is a scam site and their team members hilariously failed to change people's minds through their refund tactics in order to promote their new site(Basebet.io).


Plus if BTCGosu gains more followers and gathers more support from the community, AND because of that, gain some influence over the Bitcoin gambling industry, the admins behind BTCGosu could probably help with users' withdrawal issues and other problems, no?

The community needs a trustworthy entity that could act as some sort of representative to speak with the casinos.


I don't see how BTCGosu could help with refunds and withdrawals, even if it became a better and bigger player within the Bitcoin gambling industry. In the end, if a shady casino has the preset I mention to scam their users or exit scam, then they are unaffected by any external pressure it could be be put on them by an external force or player. The pressure would only be of any help if the casino or service had honest intentions to operate as a trustworthy and reliable one, and they cared on their reputation, this is not the case, sadly.

At this point, BTCGosu can only use their existing influence and recognition to try to educate on this apparent scam / failure on refunding, so future bettors and gamblers who are unaware of this drama won't fall for the next service the previous administrators of Betnoni will try to pull off from the ground up.
Even if such a big players like Binance were willing to help against a scam casino, they could only bring awareness as well.


But that should not be the first time that it's suggested, no?

With the presumption that they will gain many subscribers/followers and influence/reputation, I believe they could help by being a trusted-third-party between the users and the casinos. Bitcoin services and users come from the same community, why can't we have another service built by other community members that could help fix issues?

 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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This is the sort of stuff that makes me appreciate sites like BTCGOSU way more than crappy review sites looking to make a quick buck. Learnt some new stuff which I wasn't aware of through your article.

Anyone with a half-decent brain can tell that Betnomi is a scam site and their team members hilariously failed to change people's minds through their refund tactics in order to promote their new site(Basebet.io).


Plus if BTCGosu gains more followers and gathers more support from the community, AND because of that, gain some influence over the Bitcoin gambling industry, the admins behind BTCGosu could probably help with users' withdrawal issues and other problems, no?

The community needs a trustworthy entity that could act as some sort of representative to speak with the casinos.

I don't see how BTCGosu could help with refunds and withdrawals, even if it became a better and bigger player within the Bitcoin gambling industry. In the end, if a shady casino has the preset I mention to scam their users or exit scam, then they are unaffected by any external pressure it could be be put on them by an external force or player. The pressure would only be of any help if the casino or service had honest intentions to operate as a trustworthy and reliable one, and they cared on their reputation, this is not the case, sadly.

At this point, BTCGosu can only use their existing influence and recognition to try to educate on this apparent scam / failure on refunding, so future bettors and gamblers who are unaware of this drama won't fall for the next service the previous administrators of Betnoni will try to pull off from the ground up.
Even if such a big players like Binance were willing to help against a scam casino, they could only bring awareness as well.
legendary
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This is the sort of stuff that makes me appreciate sites like BTCGOSU way more than crappy review sites looking to make a quick buck. Learnt some new stuff which I wasn't aware of through your article.

Anyone with a half-decent brain can tell that Betnomi is a scam site and their team members hilariously failed to change people's minds through their refund tactics in order to promote their new site(Basebet.io).


Plus if BTCGosu gains more followers and gathers more support from the community, AND because of that, gain some influence over the Bitcoin gambling industry, the admins behind BTCGosu could probably help with users' withdrawal issues and other problems, no?

The community needs a trustworthy entity that could act as some sort of representative to speak with the casinos.
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This is the sort of stuff that makes me appreciate sites like BTCGOSU way more than crappy review sites looking to make a quick buck. Learnt some new stuff which I wasn't aware of through your article.

Anyone with a half-decent brain can tell that Betnomi is a scam site and their team members hilariously failed to change people's minds through their refund tactics in order to promote their new site(Basebet.io).
legendary
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OK, that's why they opened this topic and pretended to have started compensating their users. They didn't want those users to go after them and ask for their money in their new casino. Roll Eyes

Plus efialtis, a minor edit for the news/blog. It said that Betnomi's "scheduled maintenance" started on July 2nd, 2024. Was it in 2022 or 2023?
legendary
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Very predictable. Thanks for the heads-up.
I believe it has already been established and talked about how they had intentions to continue to their operations with a different name within the market for bets and gambling, though, I took more than I expected for them to try to white wash what happened here. I guess they tried to wait for a bit some people started to move on from this mess and some who do not actually know the full history of what happened here could deposit on them wallets and risk their money to be stolen.

Call it wishful thinking, but if they wanted to, they could have been transparent and say they intended to use the earning coming from the operation of that new service to eventually pay those who lost their money to Betnomi. i am sure if there was enough transparency in the process, then people could have been willing to wait some months to get their money back. But whatever... It is always easier to ignore the problem and try to start "fresh". 
Also, the fact they have decided to continue to go with a relatively opaque approach with this his service they intend to get support to is already a clear red flag for anyone who may be willing to deposit any significant amount on money again. What a shame, this was one of the most recognizable new casinos here in BBT and how this is how it all ends...
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Just checked out their site and it really looks similar.
According to the live feed of the "latest bets" they already have some players active at their site, not a lot of action though compared to other site's "latest bets" section. There are like 3 players currently popping up in, so many.  Grin
Since they are confirmed scammers I wouldn't be surprised if they hat bots playing in games to pretend there are actually people playing at the site, haha.

Once a scammer always a scammer.


Before they become popular here, They are just some random mediocre casino that has a lot of bots playing in there. They just manage to become popular after some major improvements with their brand and tons of promotion here but they struggle for a long time before they manage to become successful.

So I think it’s very hard for them to regain that kind of popularity since their reputation is already tainted here which they begin. Bots is the only user that contributes to their current wager hoping that more user will be attracted. Let’s keep attacking Betnomi brand to basebet brand to expose their scam.
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