Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! - page 12.

Ojima-ojo

hero member

Activity: 910

Merit: 507

Quote from: betnomi on February 28, 2024, 02:03:52 AM

Quote from: Get-Paid.com on February 27, 2024, 08:10:52 PM

Well, no response since December 2023, is that a good receipt for you?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63322540

Just saying, "Well, no response since December 2023, is that a good receipt for you?" means nothing. What is the problem? Who is affected? What is their claim? Did they send a refund request and not receive it? What exactly is your point?

If that is your reasoning, then please explain why the biggest one is not on this list? Also, explain why we have paid other people who have multiple times the balance of the users, sent it to the risk management team for review.

Sometimes, it is okay to think first before throwing around accusations.

Sometimes it's hard to think that is why most people judge, anyways I tried to also understand why some people are still complaining that they haven't received the balance remaining on the old site, and to that, the team needs to make a statement if the refund process has been done with and since players are still complaining of not getting their entire balance, there can be a way to verify the true authenticity of such claims and how best to handle them.

But all the same, I think the team has done a great job, judging from what I read on the trust review, it sounds as if positive things are coming from this team.

Get-Paid.com

sr. member

Activity: 1878

Merit: 389

Quote from: betnomi on February 28, 2024, 02:03:52 AM

Just saying, "Well, no response since December 2023, is that a good receipt for you?" means nothing. What is the problem? Who is affected? What is their claim? Did they send a refund request and not receive it? What exactly is your point?

If that is your reasoning, then please explain why the biggest one is not on this list? Also, explain why we have paid other people who have multiple times the balance of the users, sent to the risk management team for review?

Sometimes, it is okay to think first before throwing around accusations.

It's impossible to communicate with you so we didn't expect much, and we're not in the business of bothering other businesses for no reason or just throwing accusations.
We sent you referrals, quite a bunch, before you shut down your site we had balances from these referrals, it's difficult to tell how much, but there was a balance.

The thing is sending you emails (from Gmail, to ensure delivery) had no response and several times in this thread we tried to get your attention.

What else do you want us to do? We stopped chasing it and you can do whatever you want with it.

Wind_FURY

legendary

Activity: 2898

Merit: 1823

When I saw the topic title with the word "SOLVED" with brackets which truly sent the message across, I went in and I was about to post my congratulations to OP and Betnomi's admins. I was very disappointed to read that, if verified true, there are still many users who have not received their withdrawals yet. I thought it would be another good ending like BC.Game. Bad play, Betnomi, bad play. It was probably better for you to stay quiet while fixing the issue.

Stayzor

newbie

Activity: 23

Merit: 7

Quote from: betnomi on February 27, 2024, 05:10:48 PM

The refund requests of the following two users have been denied due to fraud (and this is not up for debate):

1. hubbypub
2. Pgermaine1413

Fraud? How is wagering my deposit 1x on the biggest sport events fraud? I was happy to do KYC at that time (before your site went offline) and could do KYC through a third party, if needed now.

I reject your use of "fraud" regarding my activity at betnomi at the strongest.

kennymcc

newbie

Activity: 4

Merit: 0

I am one of the guys who didn't recognized this thread at the right time. From time to time I checked the betnomi site, but only got the 'Maintenance message'. Since Betnomi said they would give some room for people who missed the initial announcement, I today requested to refund my balance. If this works, me and my family would be very grateful. I am happy to see, that betnomi is willing to solve all requests and stay to their words. I will keep you updated.

GekkeBelg

full member

Activity: 513

Merit: 102

Quote from: betnomi on February 27, 2024, 05:10:48 PM

We are uncertain why people continue to present their opinions as facts. The claim that we hand-select users for refunds is outright silly; every user has been refunded, except the five users we mentioned earlier. For the sake of transparency, we will release the usernames of these five users.

The refund requests of the following two users have been denied due to fraud (and this is not up for debate):

1. hubbypub
2. Pgermaine1413

These users have been forwarded to our external risk management team for verification. We will process or deny their requests based on the outcome of the third-party review.

1. Eggs96
2. faramutsi
3. Anccik
4. nutters0n

Aside from these cases, we are currently in contact with one other user privately and are actively working on resolving their case.

There is no other user or individual to whom any money is owed in any way, shape, or form. If someone has requested a refund and hasn't received it, we encourage them to come forward and provide us with a receipt.

I can confirm that this is me. I am the biggest one on their list and I made an agreement to receive my full amount within 3 weeks from last Saturday. I have confidence that Betnomi will keep their word and ofcourse I will update this thread when I have received the payment. This should happen within 2,5 weeks from now, but possibly earlier.

betnomi

copper member

Activity: 740

Merit: 337

Bookmaker focused on cryptocurrency

Quote from: Get-Paid.com on February 27, 2024, 08:10:52 PM

Well, no response since December 2023, is that a good receipt for you?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63322540

Just saying, "Well, no response since December 2023, is that a good receipt for you?" means nothing. What is the problem? Who is affected? What is their claim? Did they send a refund request and not receive it? What exactly is your point?

If that is your reasoning, then please explain why the biggest one is not on this list? Also, explain why we have paid other people who have multiple times the balance of the users, sent to the risk management team for review?

Sometimes, it is okay to think first before throwing around accusations.

Poika5

copper member

Activity: 119

Merit: 17

Quote from: betnomi on February 27, 2024, 05:10:48 PM

We are uncertain why people continue to present their opinions as facts. The claim that we hand-select users for refunds is outright silly; every user has been refunded, except the five users we mentioned earlier. For the sake of transparency, we will release the usernames of these five users.

The refund requests of the following two users have been denied due to fraud (and this is not up for debate):

1. hubbypub
2. Pgermaine1413

These users have been forwarded to our external risk management team for verification. We will process or deny their requests based on the outcome of the third-party review.

1. Eggs96
2. faramutsi
3. Anccik
4. nutters0n

Aside from these cases, we are currently in contact with one other user privately and are actively working on resolving their case.

There is no other user or individual to whom any money is owed in any way, shape, or form. If someone has requested a refund and hasn't received it, we encourage them to come forward and provide us with a receipt.

Hubbypub = Stayzor

It's easy to pay a bunch of 200$ withdrawals, but it looks like the bigger withdrawals got denied. Unsurprisingly, Stayzor had the second-biggest balance on Betnomi(~40k$).

Get-Paid.com

sr. member

Activity: 1878

Merit: 389

Quote from: betnomi on February 27, 2024, 05:10:48 PM

There is no other user or individual to whom any money is owed in any way, shape, or form. If someone has requested a refund and hasn't received it, we encourage them to come forward and provide us with a receipt.

Well, no response since December 2023, is that a good receipt for you?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63322540

betnomi

copper member

Activity: 740

Merit: 337

Bookmaker focused on cryptocurrency

We are uncertain why people continue to present their opinions as facts. The claim that we hand-select users for refunds is outright silly; every user has been refunded, except the five users we mentioned earlier. For the sake of transparency, we will release the usernames of these five users.

The refund requests of the following two users have been denied due to fraud (and this is not up for debate):

1. hubbypub
2. Pgermaine1413

These users have been forwarded to our external risk management team for verification. We will process or deny their requests based on the outcome of the third-party review.

1. Eggs96
2. faramutsi
3. Anccik
4. nutters0n

Aside from these cases, we are currently in contact with one other user privately and are actively working on resolving their case.

There is no other user or individual to whom any money is owed in any way, shape, or form. If someone has requested a refund and hasn't received it, we encourage them to come forward and provide us with a receipt.

Ojima-ojo

hero member

Activity: 910

Merit: 507

The whole thing is going crazy in here because Betnomi team has stated on the title that they resolved customers' issues and refunded them, but we have a couple of gamblers who are coming out to say that they haven't received any form of reimbursement from the failed betnomi team

At this point, it begins to become more clear of what the betnomi intend to do and if they ever want to regain the trust here and outside, they should better make an open refund process by making all the process to be public and plan to all to see and analyze at any point.

ryzaadit

legendary

Activity: 2688

Merit: 1262

Quote from: betnomi on February 25, 2024, 09:37:55 PM

-snip-

Well these is also bullshit for me.

Why? because some people who are asking about the progress and everything during your Maintenance got Kicked due you are restricted and censorship any topic of your downfall. Now the question, how these guys getting a refund?

They don't even know anything about information.

BTW, any more word from user ? not just once but a lot people confirm these case has been solved. Only seeing one guys the case is not being solved, need more confirmation feedback from user. Since Betnomi credibility and trust based on how they're react and process these things is a little bit complicated and not really smooth. Many things is change.

bislom

jr. member

Activity: 157

Merit: 1

Quote from: examplens on February 27, 2024, 10:44:24 AM

Quote from: betnomi on February 24, 2024, 11:56:01 AM

We have completed the refund process for the final set of withdrawal requests. Out of these, two have been denied due to fraud (account was previously banned). Three of them have been forwarded to the risk management team of our odds feeds and game providers. Apart from these five instances, all other refunds have been 100% completed.

You have not properly updated the subject of this topic. It should be [SOLVED only two "small amount" cases]

What about this?

Quote from: Stayzor on February 27, 2024, 05:34:26 AM

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer. I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammed-by-betnomi-20-000-worth-of-eth-and-btc-5462045 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out. I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

Quote from: betnomi on February 24, 2024, 11:56:01 AM

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

I have no faith that the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" will be fair. I did not really get to use the site, before it went offline, and I am barely up on my initial btc and eth deposit.

Betnomi should at very least have paid all deposits back in the refund round this week, and make the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" public for the forum (if this third party review is real at all) when they come.

I hope for an open discussion on the progress of the rest of the refund @betnomi.

If people winning decent amounts, suddenly their risk management team needs to review. Fucking bullshit. If the bets were lost, Betnomi never conducts a check.
This trick of frauding was used many time, and always when users win, they suddenly place fraudulent bets or cheated of course. Please create the red flag against this scam site. You will get enough support for sure.

Hamphser

sr. member

Activity: 2604

Merit: 338

Vave.com - Crypto Casino

Quote from: acroman08 on February 27, 2024, 11:12:57 AM

Quote from: Stayzor on February 27, 2024, 08:40:20 AM

Yes, I have sent in all requested information. I did so in the first days of the announced refund.

Btw, I updated to the correct link to my scam accusation and can be found above.

they mentioned that there was 2 applications were denied and 3 were sent to their "risk management team", it is possible that your refund application was one of the applications that got denied or forwarded to their "risk management team". I'd love to hear what Betnomi have to say about this.

anyway, them editing the title with "solved" is very premature, since there are still cases like yours.

You cant stop them on putting up that "SOLVED" into their ANN thread on which they do really believe that they have already cleared up this situation but it turns out that there are still people who dont able to receive their funds on which this is something that havent been resolved at all. We the community do really love to hear out on Betnomi's words in related to this so that at least we the community having
that kind of awareness and being that updated into this one. It is really that hard to clear up things when there are still few people who do make out complaints in regarding with their funds.
Better to put up that word on ANN thread on the time that everything gets resolved out. Wink

acroman08

legendary

Activity: 2534

Merit: 1115

Quote from: Stayzor on February 27, 2024, 08:40:20 AM

Yes, I have sent in all requested information. I did so in the first days of the announced refund.

Btw, I updated to the correct link to my scam accusation and can be found above.

they mentioned that there was 2 applications were denied and 3 were sent to their "risk management team", it is possible that your refund application was one of the applications that got denied or forwarded to their "risk management team". I'd love to hear what Betnomi have to say about this.

anyway, them editing the title with "solved" is very premature, since there are still cases like yours.

examplens

legendary

Activity: 3472

Merit: 3507

Crypto Swap Exchange

Quote from: betnomi on February 24, 2024, 11:56:01 AM

We have completed the refund process for the final set of withdrawal requests. Out of these, two have been denied due to fraud (account was previously banned). Three of them have been forwarded to the risk management team of our odds feeds and game providers. Apart from these five instances, all other refunds have been 100% completed.

You have not properly updated the subject of this topic. It should be [SOLVED only two "small amount" cases]

What about this?

Quote from: Stayzor on February 27, 2024, 05:34:26 AM

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer. I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammed-by-betnomi-20-000-worth-of-eth-and-btc-5462045 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out. I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

Quote from: betnomi on February 24, 2024, 11:56:01 AM

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

I have no faith that the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" will be fair. I did not really get to use the site, before it went offline, and I am barely up on my initial btc and eth deposit.

Betnomi should at very least have paid all deposits back in the refund round this week, and make the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" public for the forum (if this third party review is real at all) when they come.

I hope for an open discussion on the progress of the rest of the refund @betnomi.

Stayzor

newbie

Activity: 23

Merit: 7

Quote from: holydarkness on February 27, 2024, 08:01:01 AM

Quote from: Stayzor on February 27, 2024, 05:34:26 AM

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer. I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474377.320 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out. I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

Quote from: betnomi on February 24, 2024, 11:56:01 AM

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

I have no faith that the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" will be fair. I did not really get to use the site, before it went offline, and I am barely up on my initial btc and eth deposit.

Betnomi should at very least have paid all deposits back in the refund round this week, and make the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" public for the forum (if this third party review is real at all) when they come.

I hope for an open discussion on the progress of the rest of the refund @betnomi.

The correct link to your scam accusation thread is this one, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammed-by-betnomi-20-000-worth-of-eth-and-btc-5462045 To be sure we cover every ground, have you send them the submission email for refund with the format they gave [quoted below] somewhere between the time they announce for refund and the day it's closed?

Quote from: betnomi on November 21, 2023, 01:11:49 PM

[...]

Apart from these cases, we are ready to accept and process refund requests. Kindly send an email to [email protected] with the following details:

Code:

1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

[...]

Yes, I have sent in all requested information. I did so in the first days of the announced refund.

Btw, I updated to the correct link to my scam accusation and can be found above.

Wapfika

hero member

Activity: 1484

Merit: 597

Bitcoin makes the world go 🔃

Quote from: notblox1 on February 26, 2024, 04:57:16 PM

Solved what? Shocked

I never receives any answer why my email address used on betnomi was leaked and why I received countless spam messages promoting some unknown casino scam!
This was never explained and until this day we still dont know what exactly happened with private customer information from people who completed kyc registration on betnomi.

It appears here that Betnomi just cherry pick user here to do the refund and not in general. It’s misleading to mark this refund process as solved while not everyone who apply for refund received funds.

Quote from: Stayzor on February 27, 2024, 05:34:26 AM

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer. I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474377.320 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out. I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

It will be helpful if you create a formal scam accusation against Betnomi on scam accusation board. The link you provided is just for a post you made on this specific thread. You can gain more support in the scam accusation board with proper documentation of your case. Some reputable here still didn’t receive refund while the case mark solved which means people will support you with proper evidence.

holydarkness

legendary

Activity: 2730

Merit: 1560

Yes, I'm an asshole

Quote from: Stayzor on February 27, 2024, 05:34:26 AM

Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer. I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474377.320 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out. I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

Quote from: betnomi on February 24, 2024, 11:56:01 AM

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

I have no faith that the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" will be fair. I did not really get to use the site, before it went offline, and I am barely up on my initial btc and eth deposit.

Betnomi should at very least have paid all deposits back in the refund round this week, and make the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" public for the forum (if this third party review is real at all) when they come.

I hope for an open discussion on the progress of the rest of the refund @betnomi.

The correct link to your scam accusation thread is this one, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammed-by-betnomi-20-000-worth-of-eth-and-btc-5462045 To be sure we cover every ground, have you send them the submission email for refund with the format they gave [quoted below] somewhere between the time they announce for refund and the day it's closed?

Quote from: betnomi on November 21, 2023, 01:11:49 PM

[...]
Apart from these cases, we are ready to accept and process refund requests. Kindly send an email to [email protected] with the following details:

Code:

1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

[...]

bislom

jr. member

Activity: 157

Merit: 1

Quote from: holydarkness on February 24, 2024, 01:21:39 PM

Quote from: betnomi on February 24, 2024, 11:56:01 AM

We have completed the refund process for the final set of withdrawal requests. Out of these, two have been denied due to fraud (account was previously banned). Three of them have been forwarded to the risk management team of our odds feeds and game providers. Apart from these five instances, all other refunds have been 100% completed.

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

It was never our plan to stop Betnomi as it was going amazing before pause but it was my duty to make sure everyone was made whole.

Thank you all for your patience.

GekkeBelg and AHOYBRAUSE, do you mind to do us a favor and confirm this? Check your refund wallet and see if your funds on betnomi have been returned? As the claim above said it's the final set and it's completed, I believe even if yours are in the last of the list, they should be processed by now.

"It was going amazing"
Yes of course it went amazing, since you steal all customer funds and pay out nobody, you scammed everybody so of course your bank account is big.
Grap that Sorsis clown, that fraudster should be in jail!

Topic: Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! - page 12. (Read 7522 times)