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jr. member
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February 27, 2024, 07:05:06 AM
Betnomi pretending everyting is solved, while they still have scammed hundres of thousands of euro's which have NOT been refunded.
This site should have a red card. Victims, don't give up!
newbie
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February 27, 2024, 05:34:26 AM
Hi.

I can confirm I have not received my funds from betnomi. I first deposited 0.29999 btc and 3 eth on the 15.06.2023. I placed sport bets on the euro football qualifier 2024 from 16.06.23 to 22.06.23. All bets were in line with the market at the time of bet placement, on one of the biggest events a sportsbook can offer.  I only rolled over my initial deposit once before the site went offline, so I did not get to use betnomi really before it went offline. I lost and won bets but ended in a 0.1 btc and 1.5 eth profit, on my 0.29999 btc and 3 eth worth volume. I had a total of 0.4 btc and 4.5 eth in my betnomi account at the time the site went offline, 02.07.2023.

I will not delete the scam accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammed-by-betnomi-20-000-worth-of-eth-and-btc-5462045 and will raise a red flag on betnomi soon. I have been patient, but it is running out.  I will continue to try to be respectful in my communication here, but betnomi is making it difficult when saying the refund process is "solved".

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.
I have no faith that the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" will be fair. I did not really get to use the site, before it went offline, and I am barely up on my initial btc and eth deposit.

Betnomi should at very least have paid all deposits back in the refund round this week, and make the "results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team" public for the forum (if this third party review is real at all) when they come.

I hope for an open discussion on the progress of the rest of the refund @betnomi.
legendary
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February 26, 2024, 04:57:16 PM
Solved what? Shocked
I never receives any answer why my email address used on betnomi was leaked and why I received countless spam messages promoting some unknown casino scam!
This was never explained and until this day we still dont know what exactly happened with private customer information from people who completed kyc registration on betnomi.

legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
February 26, 2024, 11:44:44 AM
Many users have posted enough evidence in the past. There was even a case when Betnomi was extortion one of their customers with their passport, but nobody on the forum from de DT group cares about that at the time.


All I see from you are some statements "many" and "many users", nothing concrete and clear. So present the evidence you mention. Any DT will not and should not judge anyone based on a random person from the internet who repeats the mantra "many people scammed".
In the same way, I can also mark you as a scammer and claim that you have deceived many people. And claim that there are many proofs of that. But it doesn't have to be like that.

My words have much more value then all these DT jokes who only got DT because they have friends with DT status and fraud for some money, and yes, you are one of them as well. You don't have any knowledge about the situation and your reaction implicits you are defending Betnomi. You DT members think you are smart, but you are all just a big joke with an IQ of not even 60

If you look at the Betnomi account, you will see several negative feedbacks left by DT members and that is the maximum they can do against someone. I also left them negative feedback and I am certainly not defending them, but trying to defend the common sense that you lack.

This user certainly have a bad experience or two with betnomi. I personally think betnomi is still far faaarrr away from redeeming themselves, the new platform will not and should not be instantly trusted just because they refund their members, but what bislom did is kinda pointless, borderline a witch-hunt, as he spammed many threads, highlighting that betnomi is a scam, even on a resolved cases.
jr. member
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February 26, 2024, 05:54:58 AM
To be clear, the refund is not only for Bitcointalk users; it applies to all users on our platform. We had a good estimation of the number of people affected by the closure, and we received refund requests very close to that number. As a result, we are confident that almost everyone affected or with any meaningful amount on the platform has received the message and requested their refund.

We set a deadline for the refund several months ago and didn't receive any new requests for a few weeks. Once again, we are pretty confident in our conclusion. However, we are leaving some room for any user who might have missed the announcement. Any future requests will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

Why did you scam people for more than 50k? Nothing is solved, you are just a big scammer and that is already proven. You will not launch a new site, we will take it down
Stay away from this scam site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
legendary
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February 26, 2024, 03:47:35 AM
However, we are leaving some room for any user who might have missed the announcement. Any future requests will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
You're making me remember like an old casino that also had their announcement here through the forum through their closure. And anyone who had missed the deadline, they've given an extension for the convenience of those that haven't heard the good news that they've made. On your end, this is a commendable move as you're able to solve and give that space for those that have been affected and some testimonial was also written on this thread particularly about the refund. Congratulations for that actions you've made and I hope that most if not all affected users get the refund before your next considered deadline.
Well, I don't know but morally, there should be no deadline of any kind for cases like this, the company is supposed to keep this offer of refund open for as long as it takes affected user to take notice of the refund initiative, and come around to apply to get his or her refund, the company is not doing an airdrop to their users, neither are they dashing money to their users, the money they are refunding here is the same money belonging to same users which the company initially ran off with, and for what ever reason, they are back here to refund their users they stole from, there shouldnt be any limit or deadline to how long the refund plan should be open, if the company have good intentions of refunding every single affected user, then the refund plan should be open (like I said before) for as long as it take all the affected users to come around and claim back their money.
Except the company's plan is to refund the few persons who may have come around now, and keep the rest of the money for themselves, which I personally will still consider as stealing and won't trust this casino.
hero member
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February 26, 2024, 01:42:49 AM
However, we are leaving some room for any user who might have missed the announcement. Any future requests will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
You're making me remember like an old casino that also had their announcement here through the forum through their closure. And anyone who had missed the deadline, they've given an extension for the convenience of those that haven't heard the good news that they've made. On your end, this is a commendable move as you're able to solve and give that space for those that have been affected and some testimonial was also written on this thread particularly about the refund. Congratulations for that actions you've made and I hope that most if not all affected users get the refund before your next considered deadline.
hero member
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Dimon69
February 26, 2024, 01:04:55 AM

Many users have filled in the accustion thread, but since DT members were paid to defend Betnomi, nothing happened. So they not even had a fair chance on this forum.
No need to clarify. Everybody knows that Betnomi is a scam from the beginning. I wish people have listened to me from the beginning. There is one case which was posted on the scam accustion topic where Betnomi extortioned a customer with her passport. It is not a big surprise that nobody cared about it. But there are many more accusations. Betnomi did everything to avoid paying customers. Their refund plan is a joke, they only refund people with 25$ in their account. The fact there is a refund plan already prooved they stole a lot of money!

DT is not paid here. A paid use of DT power can be spot by other DT since every issue here requires reference as supporting documents for DT action. I don’t read personally all the scam accusation that you mentioned but most probably all this accusations has no substantial evidence to support accusation against Betnomi.

You will notice that Betnomi received tons of criticism when they left and became silent in the forum for a long time from DT and non-DT members. Just follow my previous suggestion so that every accusation will be reviewed properly based on its evidence.
hero member
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February 25, 2024, 10:44:30 PM
I'm quite happy to see your reply on this thread, we all know that each user who was affected should get refund, not only the Bitcointalk users. If you have received refund requests according to your estimation then that's a good thing but it would be great if you share some details that out of your estimated number how many of those got their refund? I hope you guys are serious about refunding and I hope that each victim who was affected should get their money back.
copper member
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February 25, 2024, 09:37:55 PM
To be clear, the refund is not only for Bitcointalk users; it applies to all users on our platform. We had a good estimation of the number of people affected by the closure, and we received refund requests very close to that number. As a result, we are confident that almost everyone affected or with any meaningful amount on the platform has received the message and requested their refund.

We set a deadline for the refund several months ago and didn't receive any new requests for a few weeks. Once again, we are pretty confident in our conclusion. However, we are leaving some room for any user who might have missed the announcement. Any future requests will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
hero member
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February 25, 2024, 04:43:58 PM
To be honest, I'm not sure that I will play on their new site at all. It's nice that they refunded some people after such a long time, but again there are a lot of unanswered questions. And this situation will be remembered, what happened once can easily happen again.
I won't also be confident in playing into their 2.0 or reforged version just after this situation even it has been solved.
But that doesn't mean that everyone who's been compensated and refunded will still trust them again the second time around.
Once trust is broken, it's hard to put back into pieces.
hero member
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February 25, 2024, 03:25:35 PM
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I can confirm that I have received everything that was on the site when Betnomi stopped working. More than $400, big money for me.

Thank you very much, Betnomi! I have trusted in your integrity from the very beginning and now I'm glad you haven't let me down. Will definitely play on your new site. Good luck with your new project!

I'm glad for you Betwrong, you really believed in Betnomi from the beginning, and they finally decided to refund at least some of you who had a balance there. My opinion is that they should have given you an additional reward for this huge wait. I can't complain too much, I only had a few dollars, but I would have been annoyed if I had more money there and they held it for so long without any real explanation. But it's me...

To be honest, I'm not sure that I will play on their new site at all. It's nice that they refunded some people after such a long time, but again there are a lot of unanswered questions. And this situation will be remembered, what happened once can easily happen again.

Better not to expect something on some sort of bonus so that you wont really be that having that kind of disappointment because you do expect someone. What matter most is that those users who had been that refunded after some long time on which for sure that majority of those users or affected persons doesnt really have any hope on getting it back but its true that it wont really be that bad to have some addition some sort of compensation or something like that but since we dont know on whats happening on behind on which Betnomi itself does only have an exact amount
that they would really be tending to refund and not could go some sort of stretch with their budget. So lets just be thankful at least that they had at least given back on what people do own.
legendary
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February 25, 2024, 03:16:16 PM
Many users have posted enough evidence in the past. There was even a case when Betnomi was extortion one of their customers with their passport, but nobody on the forum from de DT group cares about that at the time.


All I see from you are some statements "many" and "many users", nothing concrete and clear. So present the evidence you mention. Any DT will not and should not judge anyone based on a random person from the internet who repeats the mantra "many people scammed".
In the same way, I can also mark you as a scammer and claim that you have deceived many people. And claim that there are many proofs of that. But it doesn't have to be like that.

My words have much more value then all these DT jokes who only got DT because they have friends with DT status and fraud for some money, and yes, you are one of them as well. You don't have any knowledge about the situation and your reaction implicits you are defending Betnomi. You DT members think you are smart, but you are all just a big joke with an IQ of not even 60

If you look at the Betnomi account, you will see several negative feedbacks left by DT members and that is the maximum they can do against someone. I also left them negative feedback and I am certainly not defending them, but trying to defend the common sense that you lack.
legendary
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February 25, 2024, 02:40:56 PM
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I can confirm that I have received everything that was on the site when Betnomi stopped working. More than $400, big money for me.

Thank you very much, Betnomi! I have trusted in your integrity from the very beginning and now I'm glad you haven't let me down. Will definitely play on your new site. Good luck with your new project!

I'm glad for you Betwrong, you really believed in Betnomi from the beginning, and they finally decided to refund at least some of you who had a balance there. My opinion is that they should have given you an additional reward for this huge wait. I can't complain too much, I only had a few dollars, but I would have been annoyed if I had more money there and they held it for so long without any real explanation. But it's me...

To be honest, I'm not sure that I will play on their new site at all. It's nice that they refunded some people after such a long time, but again there are a lot of unanswered questions. And this situation will be remembered, what happened once can easily happen again.
hero member
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February 25, 2024, 02:13:56 PM
Betnomi has scammed many, many customers. Many also have reported them, but Betnomi just write that the terms are violated and that there was fraud. Or bets were placed to exploit the system. They used all kind of excuses so that they don't pay out players. From the beginning I warned people about this site. I got red tagged by DT members, but when they reliase I was right, then they removed the red tag. DT members should be cleaned, there are many clowns here on the forum with a DT status who don't know anything about gambling and just write to get paid. And because of them, many people got scammed since they defended Betnomi for a long time because Betnomi paid them to continue their fraud! These DT members defended all the scam accusations, Royse777 is the biggest clown of all. That idiot should be removed from his DT status, since he was also involved and the owner of bitlucy, another scam site.

If you have information and evidence, then post it here, I don't know why further speculation. At the same time, regardless of Betnomi's status, you do not have a sufficient reputation here for us to take your word for it.
What do you expect from DT members, to pay off someone's debts?
In the end, Betnomi or whoever is behind it decided to settle the debts owed to Bitcointalk users. Certainly, the reputation system here influenced that decision.

Betnomi team have done well to some extent and for announcing that the have made refund to the affected customers and today the thread title have been changed resolved which indicates a positive resolution being achieved.

But then if is, has anyone who complained about BeBetnomi'son-refund have been able to post more evidence to prove their case,  and since most victims are not on this forum,  it will be hard to detect what has transpired with the refund process,  but the team does not have any reason to lie to us and the user making the complaint should come up with evidence to compliment the claim
sr. member
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February 25, 2024, 12:14:48 PM
We have completed the refund process for the final set of withdrawal requests. Out of these, two have been denied due to fraud (account was previously banned). Three of them have been forwarded to the risk management team of our odds feeds and game providers. Apart from these five instances, all other refunds have been 100% completed.

We will process or deny the remaining cases based on the results of the review conducted by the third-party risk management team.

It was never our plan to stop Betnomi as it was going amazing before pause but it was my duty to make sure everyone was made whole.

Thank you all for your patience.

I can confirm that I have received everything that was on the site when Betnomi stopped working. More than $400, big money for me.

Thank you very much, Betnomi! I have trusted in your integrity from the very beginning and now I'm glad you haven't let me down. Will definitely play on your new site. Good luck with your new project!
Is this also the amount that they consider when they leave, regardless of the value of the crypto you hold? How do they compute your balance? Example if you're holding BTC at the time of closure, let's say it's only valued at $20K USD per Bitcoin but now it's valued at $50K USD per Bitcoin. Which value per Bitcoin do they choose to calculate your balance? Also, is there any compensation because of the issue that happened?
legendary
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February 25, 2024, 11:13:14 AM
[...] The gamblers who had funds inside their accounts in Betnomi should get more than they have as a compensation for the time they waited, that’s just my opinion. [...]

To be fair, they claimed that they returned users' fund according to today's market rate... or at least at a certain recent time.



Good for them that they are cleaning their reputation. When I see this thread marked as "SOLVED," I then check the OP and still find that he has some negative feedback. Maybe if it is confirmed that the problem has been settled, the negatives will be removed so they can start with their new gambling site, which is still under the same operator.

We can't find a lot of stories like this, so this should be in the directory or whatever you call it so people can see that there are still a lot of legit crypto gambling sites that are willing to fulfill their responsibilities to their gamblers.

Calling it solved by themselves is kinda like... a bold self proclamation. They made this thread, and claimed everything is solved without waiting for others to come and voice their concern. The issue pointed out by AHOYBRAUSE for example, it is not clarified yet, or perhaps mine. And that's amongst probably several other questions that the community have. I think calling it "solved" is way too premature.

And the new gambling site is not under the same operator, only Sorsis and probably a handful of the staffs he trusted will be in the new project... I'm not sure that's a good thing.



Betnomi has scammed many, many customers. Many also have reported them, but Betnomi just write that the terms are violated and that there was fraud. Or bets were placed to exploit the system. They used all kind of excuses so that they don't pay out players. From the beginning I warned people about this site. I got red tagged by DT members, but when they reliase I was right, then they removed the red tag. DT members should be cleaned, there are many clowns here on the forum with a DT status who don't know anything about gambling and just write to get paid. And because of them, many people got scammed since they defended Betnomi for a long time because Betnomi paid them to continue their fraud! These DT members defended all the scam accusations, Royse777 is the biggest clown of all. That idiot should be removed from his DT status, since he was also involved and the owner of bitlucy, another scam site.

Umm... what? The DT did what? And Royse did... what?
legendary
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February 25, 2024, 11:12:17 AM
I reckon that no matter how much of a villain a DT member is, they've got bugger-all to do with a project fail, mate. Muahahahah!
When anything bad happen the DT members are always at the gun point, it's like they have the paid job to keep this place trouble free LOL. It is always recommended to do your own due diligence.

But yes it's understandable. When projects like Betnomi or some others stop their business after long successful years in the industry, there are always a group a of people who will be victim. It has nothing to do with the campaign managers. Whatever happened was unfortunate. I read Betnomi is trying to pay their clients, that's a good step after all.
copper member
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February 25, 2024, 11:02:12 AM
Betnomi has scammed many, many customers. Many also have reported them, but Betnomi just write that the terms are violated and that there was fraud. Or bets were placed to exploit the system. They used all kind of excuses so that they don't pay out players. From the beginning I warned people about this site. I got red tagged by DT members, but when they reliase I was right, then they removed the red tag. DT members should be cleaned, there are many clowns here on the forum with a DT status who don't know anything about gambling and just write to get paid. And because of them, many people got scammed since they defended Betnomi for a long time because Betnomi paid them to continue their fraud! These DT members defended all the scam accusations, Royse777 is the biggest clown of all. That idiot should be removed from his DT status, since he was also involved and the owner of bitlucy, another scam site.
When a project rug pulls and scam their users, a campaign manager has nothing to do with it. Campaign managers are not God that they will know things before it is happening. Are you mixing me with someone by the way? I never had any business relation with Betnomi yet.

FYI, I am not DT member now, this must make you happy.

I reckon that no matter how much of a villain a DT member is, they've got bugger-all to do with a project fail, mate. Muahahahah!
legendary
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February 25, 2024, 10:47:38 AM
Betnomi has scammed many, many customers. Many also have reported them, but Betnomi just write that the terms are violated and that there was fraud. Or bets were placed to exploit the system. They used all kind of excuses so that they don't pay out players. From the beginning I warned people about this site. I got red tagged by DT members, but when they reliase I was right, then they removed the red tag. DT members should be cleaned, there are many clowns here on the forum with a DT status who don't know anything about gambling and just write to get paid. And because of them, many people got scammed since they defended Betnomi for a long time because Betnomi paid them to continue their fraud! These DT members defended all the scam accusations, Royse777 is the biggest clown of all. That idiot should be removed from his DT status, since he was also involved and the owner of bitlucy, another scam site.
When a project rug pulls and scam their users, a campaign manager has nothing to do with it. Campaign managers are not God that they will know things before it is happening. Are you mixing me with someone by the way? I never had any business relation with Betnomi yet.

FYI, I am not DT member now, this must make you happy.
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