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Topic: Bitcoin Conference 2012- London 15-16 Sept | ANNOUNCEMENT sponsorship available! - page 12. (Read 60319 times)

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Just because a few idiots stored too much with a website built in 4 days by a 17yo that was already hacked 3 times before this, doesn't mean they have the right to play butthurt and go on everybody's nerves everywhere.

It's getting ridiculous, get over it, as if your lynch mobbing uninvolved people will do anything productive.
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I plan to go, but I'm a bit worried that the Bitcoinica fiasco may affect it.
legendary
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Sorry, I agree with Nefario here. Keep Bitcoinica issues out of Bitcoin Conference thread. They are completely off-topic.

Are they really? Is this how you deal with criticism, marking it as off-topic? If Intersango is indeed a co-sponsor you will have to deal with the fact that people get upset.
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Sorry, I agree with Nefario here. Keep Bitcoinica issues out of Bitcoin Conference thread. They are completely off-topic.

+1, agreed
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Sorry, I agree with Nefario here. Keep Bitcoinica issues out of Bitcoin Conference thread. They are completely off-topic.
legendary
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Excuse me, as one of the organisers (who is not involved with bitcoinica in any way) I take considerable offence to this, I and others (who are also not involved in the bitcoinica saga) have put a huge amount of time, effort, energy and our own funds into the organising of this event, and you want to ruin what is to be not just a great conference for everyone involved in bitcoin, but what is surely to be a historic event(700 people).

You'd cut off your own nose to spite your face? Attempt to ruin something for hundreds of other people (who have paid for tickets, accomadation and transport, and the number of small bitcoin startups who've already sponsored the event). Do you realise you would be doing nothing to further your own agenda by taking such a route, but only fucking the whole thing up for everyone else?

And what about the media, you think it wouldn't refect badly on bitcoin because that's what this conference is about, bitcoin and bringing it to the world, how do you think it would look to the rest of the world when they read (in the back of a paper for certain) about bitcoin conference ruined by a small group of protesters who lost their funds on a bitcoin service.

It will be about bitcoin being a wild west, a place for thieves, unreliable. You want that kind of media attention?

I'd thank you to stop your juvenile talk of protests and keep anything bitcoinica related off my thread.


Cross-referenced quote from: BitBuster in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97272.80

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Quote from: disclaimer201 on Today at 02:27:27 PM

Since the conference will probably be co-sponsored by Intersango, this is not going to happen. And this why the conference will fall under a bad light because they cannot afford to lose sponsors I'm sure.


If as many expect, the Intersango trio are eventually proven to be liable/culpable, it could be argued that the whole conference was sponsored by thieves with stolen money.

BB.


Do you want to be offended? So be it. Cutting of ones own nose doesn't make a difference anymore if the rest of your body has been infected with terminal cancer. If I remember correctly, the majority of the people never voted for London to begin with! The organizers chose to ignore that because of pragmatic reasons months ago and I fear they will ignore it again for the same pragmatic reason. You will get no sympathy from me for your conference.
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Nefario, I sympathise with you. However:
It will be about bitcoin being a wild west, a place for thieves, unreliable. You want that kind of media attention?
Is exactly how many Bitcoinica victims feel. There have been many exchange "hacks" and thefts. The only way we will be able to shake this reputation and scurge is if we persue and undermine those who practice such dispicable acts.

You and the rest of the Bitcoin conference should be embarrassed to be associated (which you are, whether intentional or not) with theives and suspected crooks at Intersango/Bitcoinica consultancy, and should be scrabbling around to remove them and all references/connections to them from the conference and the respectable side of bitcoin which you are trying to cultivate.


BB.
legendary
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Excuse me, as one of the organisers (who is not involved with bitcoinica in any way) I take considerable offence to this, I and others (who are also not involved in the bitcoinica saga) have put a huge amount of time, effort, energy and our own funds into the organising of this event, and you want to ruin what is to be not just a great conference for everyone involved in bitcoin, but what is surely to be a historic event(700 people).

You'd cut off your own nose to spite your face? Attempt to ruin something for hundreds of other people (who have paid for tickets, accomadation and transport, and the number of small bitcoin startups who've already sponsored the event). Do you realise you would be doing nothing to further your own agenda by taking such a route, but only fucking the whole thing up for everyone else?

And what about the media, you think it wouldn't refect badly on bitcoin because that's what this conference is about, bitcoin and bringing it to the world, how do you think it would look to the rest of the world when they read (in the back of a paper for certain) about bitcoin conference ruined by a small group of protesters who lost their funds on a bitcoin service.

It will be about bitcoin being a wild west, a place for thieves, unreliable. You want that kind of media attention?

I'd thank you to stop your juvenile talk of protests and keep anything bitcoinica related off my thread.

i can totally understand you and i (i can only speak for myself) dont want to hurt this conference.

but you should be aware that this people are not good for bitcoin anymore. and i can imagine that only because they are involved many people are scared away.

i wont post anything bitcoinica<->intersango related at bitcointalk any more (and i beg others to do the same) - at this point its only bad press and nothing more.
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Excuse me, as one of the organisers (who is not involved with bitcoinica in any way) I take considerable offence to this, I and others (who are also not involved in the bitcoinica saga) have put a huge amount of time, effort, energy and our own funds into the organising of this event, and you want to ruin what is to be not just a great conference for everyone involved in bitcoin, but what is surely to be a historic event(700 people).

You'd cut off your own nose to spite your face? Attempt to ruin something for hundreds of other people (who have paid for tickets, accomadation and transport, and the number of small bitcoin startups who've already sponsored the event). Do you realise you would be doing nothing to further your own agenda by taking such a route, but only fucking the whole thing up for everyone else?

And what about the media, you think it wouldn't refect badly on bitcoin because that's what this conference is about, bitcoin and bringing it to the world, how do you think it would look to the rest of the world when they read (in the back of a paper for certain) about bitcoin conference ruined by a small group of protesters who lost their funds on a bitcoin service.

It will be about bitcoin being a wild west, a place for thieves, unreliable. You want that kind of media attention?

I'd thank you to stop your juvenile talk of protests and keep anything bitcoinica related off my thread.
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Perhaps the speakers should be contacted by someone reputable and informed that the organizers are crooks...

they are no crooks
they just prefer not to answer any mails or to do any action as soon as it gets compilicated.

^^ good to know if you want to do businness with them
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Perhaps the speakers should be contacted by someone reputable and informed that the organizers are crooks...
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Confirmed James McCarthy (nefario) of GLBSE and Jeremias (kangasbros) of AcceptBit, LocalBitcoins as speakers.
HEY
Dont you have more important stuff to do? Whats the status on the Bitcoinica returns??
1. why are the claims gone? are they backed up safely?
2. will the return process continue as soon as Zhou sent the funds?
Surely, it is unteneble for individuals who are most probably engaged with or subject of bitcoin-related legal cases in several jurisdictions, to be organising and administrating this event?

Are all of the guest speakers aware that their hosts have reputations which are at best under severe community and legal scrutiny?

Surely there is also a risk that disgruntled Bitcoinica customers will attend the event and disrupt it in an attempt to gain refunds to which they believe they are rightfully and legally entitled?

Perhaps it would be best to transfer "ownership" and organisation duties to some neutral, knowledgeable and senior members of the community? For the sake of saving this event and future ones from jeopardy and damaged reputation? All of this without prejudice to those currently in post, of course.


BB.
+1 Wisely spoken
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Confirmed James McCarthy (nefario) of GLBSE and Jeremias (kangasbros) of AcceptBit, LocalBitcoins as speakers.
HEY
Dont you have more important stuff to do? Whats the status on the Bitcoinica returns??
1. why are the claims gone? are they backed up safely?
2. will the return process continue as soon as Zhou sent the funds?
Surely, it is unteneble for individuals who are most probably engaged with or subject of bitcoin-related legal cases in several jurisdictions, to be organising and administrating this event?

Are all of the guest speakers aware that their hosts have reputations which are at best under severe community and legal scrutiny?

Surely there is also a risk that disgruntled Bitcoinica customers will attend the event and disrupt it in an attempt to gain refunds to which they believe they are rightfully and legally entitled?

Perhaps it would be best to transfer "ownership" and organisation duties to some neutral, knowledgeable and senior members of the community? For the sake of saving this event and future ones from jeopardy and damaged reputation? All of this without prejudice to those currently in post, of course.


BB.
legendary
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FYI, there is now a "Meetups" board for events.  There is no post there for this.  Or perhaps move this thread there.

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=86.0
legendary
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Confirmed James McCarthy (nefario) of GLBSE and Jeremias (kangasbros) of AcceptBit, LocalBitcoins as speakers.
legendary
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Joerg Platzer of Room77 is now on the speaker list.
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legendary
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Hey,

I added details of the venue, places to stay and directions:

http://www.bitcoin2012.com/venue

I'll put up the schedule soon.

For tickets, email [email protected]. First 100 tickets are €40.
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And yet he's willing to pay his own flight ticket, accommodation and speak for free. He also draws a good crowd that brings attention to lesser known developers. He's definitely good for Bitcoin.
Also, he understands Bitcoin (low transaction costs & getting rid of banksters).
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And yet he's willing to pay his own flight ticket, accommodation and speak for free. He also draws a good crowd that brings attention to lesser known developers. He's definitely good for Bitcoin.
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