Topic: Bitcoin Conference 2012- London 15-16 Sept | ANNOUNCEMENT sponsorship available! - page 10. (Read 60311 times)

More than 3/4 of the new comments are about the future of your conference !

For god sake, what's your point again ?

Yep:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoff_investment_scandal#The_Innocence_Project

For god sakes people, another thread, one of any of the other dozen or so threads, PLEASE.

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Wow, just wow.  You make me sick.

Indeed. I hope someone else from Intersango has some professionalism and can step forward to salvage the reputation.
Amir should publicly apologize for his remarks.

So when did you join Occupy London ?

Not only cannot support it, but sure as hell would not send a single satoshi to them for ticket fees? Wonder what the over/under line is for a hack just before the conference that makes all the ticket fees disappear? This is the clown car full of knuckleheads who have suffered three such hacks and still haven't secured anything.

Seriously, this just seems awkward.  The way the bitcoinica thing has been handled, I couldn't support anything organized by anyone who (mis)managed that mess.

Not surprised of the examples given by Amir. He is a very political person, which is usually good but not when you're in charge of a financial service provider. He should not be involved in anything money- or free market related. Very interesting to see what happens in the real world if people with "a lot of money" lose it. Many people suffer! Everything is interconnected. Amir should be sued to compensate for the latest MtGox hack personally and pay up for the rest of his life.

Oh, and fuck your useless conference!

Will this hackathon include the ceremonial quarterly hack and theft of large quantities of Bitcoinica funds?

For the good of the conference, I think the intersango guys should just not show up.

I mean hell, if they were currently holding >$300000 of my money, I'd turn up just to confront them over it.

If there's to be any hope of the London conference being remotely normal and civilised, they can't really be there.

Hm. contemplating if I should go to London again anyway, perhaps you could set up a cage fight ?

Stallmann could be the judge.

Not happy, but you don't give a shit.  Hell, if you could steal from a rich guy to help a poorer guy, you should do it, right?

You don't know what Roger's financial situation is, where that money came from, what it means to him, how many years of his life it represents or how its loss will impact him.  For all you know, Roger had deposited that money on behalf of his poorer friends and family.  Roger has done so much for Bitcoin with his own money that any loss he suffers is surely a loss for the whole Bitcoin community.  Roger would have invested that money in more Bitcoin businesses, used it to fly around the world to evangelize Bitcoin, paid for more radio ads.  That is a lot of money that Roger no longer has to give away in an effort to expand Bitcoin's growth and adoption, which would benefit everyone.

Having a high net worth doesn't mean that you can easily afford to take an unexpected 24,000 BTC loss.  I do pretty well but after a few months went by and Bitcoinica still had not returned my funds, I stopped paying my mortgage so I could continue to pay my employees.  I couldn't make the charitable contribution that I'd promised to the local arts center, which has impacted their programming.  The timing was just about as bad is it could possibly have been.  The problem is that most of my assets are illiquid, and you stole my liquidity, which created a cascade of much more expensive problems that affected a lot more people than just myself.  The amount of money missing for me is not the biggest problem--it's the not having it when I expected to have it.

Your statements just prove further that you should never have been in charge of anyone's money.  I don't know what else to say.  I'm appalled.

Please, stop feeding the shit-storm.

This remind me of your Kangaroo court / McDonald coffee analogy,  Beyond irrelevant.

The part people want a response to is everything but this, One of them being why are you proud of having leaked "released" the source code ?

That fat girl is a person you know. Why would you insult her when she's an innocent bystander?

I'm not saying I'm happy Roger Ver lost money, but simply that his life is not really impacted in a huge way compared to someone who barely has enough money to survive or eat because they lost it in Bitcoinica. I seem to recall in Vienna that you were talking about renting out an aeroplane. That's a level of extravagance that goes way way over my head. You probably live far more comfortably than the majority of people do including myself. Don't tell me that 25k out of 50k is more of a loss than $200 of $600. That's the difference between homeless and starving, vs surviving.

This is...I don't even know what to say.   

No need. You just pointed them out yourself: The release of private correspondence and the leaking of company's proprietary source code do most certainly violate any contracts you had with Bitcoinica LP. I'd hardly call that 'conducting yourself properly'. In addition the leaked source seems to be the direct cause of the MtGox compromise leading to a further loss of USD $350K of customer funds.

Ok, Back on topic.

Since payments for tickets are to be sent to Intersango LTD will you be offering free ticket to your creditors ?
I was to come but it would feel too odd to give Intersango another 70€

Thanks for the consideration.

I take it you had another temporal insanity moment when you wrote this, because it is appalling. You could care less that a client lost a lot of money because he has more? Nuts.

Appalling.