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Topic: BitCoins for Edward Snowden. (Read 30961 times)

legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
April 04, 2015, 05:02:56 PM
Lazy Americans don't deserve freedom because they refuse to rise up against the leaders that are taking it away from them.

No need to blame the ordinary Americans. They are being subjected to relentless brainwashing 24x7. A small minority is capable of understanding all this and stand up against the propaganda. The remaining are just helpless.

No, you can blame them unless they dropped out of K-12 in the 3rd grade and don't understand anything about the system they live under. Everyone in the country saw the way the storm troopers handled the Boston bombing. Now, it's different if they see it and they want a new country where the storm troopers are allowed to bust your door down whenever they want to. That's a conscious choice to relinquish your freedom. Then they are not lazy but simply the worst kind of fool.

legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
April 04, 2015, 03:11:55 PM
I would donate some BTCs to the man, unfortunately im as broke as ever so I can't donate to literally anything that isn't paying my own bills and food.

I would too, but now it's illegal  Angry

legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1183
April 04, 2015, 03:07:50 PM
I would donate some BTCs to the man, unfortunately im as broke as ever so I can't donate to literally anything that isn't paying my own bills and food.
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1217
April 04, 2015, 02:09:33 PM
Lazy Americans don't deserve freedom because they refuse to rise up against the leaders that are taking it away from them.

No need to blame the ordinary Americans. They are being subjected to relentless brainwashing 24x7. A small minority is capable of understanding all this and stand up against the propaganda. The remaining are just helpless.
legendary
Activity: 1639
Merit: 1006
April 04, 2015, 02:05:36 PM
You cannot rise up against a minority, you are simply then a racist or worse.
It is because people are blinded by political correctness and no longer see clearly. Political correctness is new age religion, and you do not question your religion you just take it as it is without thinking.
I am glad I am part of this community because humanity within the most of us is not imposed by laws.


Your words are not hyperbole. There is a new religion that is upon us. The internet is proliferating this hive mind religion. Every country that has the internet will become converted in only a few decades. The power of shaming those that do not fit in the mainstream religion is so strong there will be no voices of dissent left. I work for a major company, i cannot speak out, i cannot say anything even if it is benign and relatively neutral, if am publicly called out my career would be over. The control is almost complete already.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
April 04, 2015, 01:41:03 PM
Lazy Americans don't deserve freedom because they refuse to rise up against the leaders rulers that are taking it away from them.

Words are important.

Ok, that's a good edit.
legendary
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★Nitrogensports.eu★
April 04, 2015, 01:14:45 PM
You cannot rise up against a minority, you are simply then a racist or worse.
It is because people are blinded by political correctness and no longer see clearly. Political correctness is new age religion, and you do not question your religion you just take it as it is without thinking.
I am glad I am part of this community because humanity within the most of us is not imposed by laws.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
April 04, 2015, 12:49:39 PM
Lazy Americans don't deserve freedom because they refuse to rise up against the leaders rulers that are taking it away from them.

Words are important.
legendary
Activity: 1639
Merit: 1006
April 04, 2015, 10:57:27 AM



Strange quote from a man that reauthorized the Patriot Act extension. Lazy Americans don't deserve freedom because they refuse to rise up against the leaders that are taking it away from them.

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On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed a bill that reauthorized key elements of the Patriot Act. The bill called for a four-year renewal of some of the most controversial provisions of the surveillance legislation. While the bulk of the Patriot Act is steadfast law, there are certain measures that Congress must periodically reauthorize or else they expire. Among them is roving wiretaps, i.e., the ability of law enforcement officials to track targets if they change phones without law enforcement first consulting a judge

You cannot rise up against a minority, you are simply then a racist or worse.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
April 04, 2015, 10:11:38 AM



Strange quote from a man that reauthorized the Patriot Act extension. Lazy Americans don't deserve freedom because they refuse to rise up against the leaders that are taking it away from them.

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On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed a bill that reauthorized key elements of the Patriot Act. The bill called for a four-year renewal of some of the most controversial provisions of the surveillance legislation. While the bulk of the Patriot Act is steadfast law, there are certain measures that Congress must periodically reauthorize or else they expire. Among them is roving wiretaps, i.e., the ability of law enforcement officials to track targets if they change phones without law enforcement first consulting a judge
sr. member
Activity: 530
Merit: 250
CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!
April 04, 2015, 05:15:02 AM
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 2349
Eadem mutata resurgo
April 03, 2015, 06:09:57 PM
Well mocking the US government with alternative methods to sponsor Snowden are just going to provoke a negative backlash.


mocking is out then ... so you are saying freedom of speech is dead too?
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
April 03, 2015, 02:53:13 AM
Well mocking the US government with alternative methods to sponsor Snowden are just going to provoke a negative backlash.

They have the power to over regulate Bitcoin or to ban it completely and we are giving them the incentive to do it, by doing this.

I can see why people want to do this and I also support transparency and privacy, but this might have bad consequences for Bitcoin.

It's a typical Win-Lose situation.  Sad

Sorry but they already legitimized (regulated) Bitcoin thinking because they can track it, it wouldn't be a problem. The cat is out of the bag, and Bitcoin was the Trojan horse.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
April 03, 2015, 02:43:31 AM
Well mocking the US government with alternative methods to sponsor Snowden are just going to provoke a negative backlash.

They have the power to over regulate Bitcoin or to ban it completely and we are giving them the incentive to do it, by doing this.

I can see why people want to do this and I also support transparency and privacy, but this might have bad consequences for Bitcoin.

It's a typical Win-Lose situation.  Sad
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
April 03, 2015, 01:13:20 AM
Am I on a list now?  Tongue

Curious, does Obama passing this new crazy Gestapo law have any affect on Monero?  Wink
These types of laws are just going to increase use cases for Monero, etc. and increase BTC mixing sites.

(Taken from reddit)
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31443f/donating_to_snowden_is_now_illegal_and_the_us/
Donating to Snowden is now illegal and the U.S. Government can take all your stuff. - Thanks Obama.

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"Sec. 2. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type of articles specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to section 1 of this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in this order, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.

Sec. 3. The prohibitions in section 1 of this order include but are not limited to:

(a) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; and

(b) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person."

Sec. 7. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render those measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in this order, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1 of this order." ... aka, they can take all your stuff without due process instantly if you have "constitutional rights" in the US (wow).

The rabbit hole is deep people. This is almost as bad as the patriot act... a national emergency LOL what a joke. I pray that non of you donated to Snowden using Coinbase or any other bitcoin platform that keeps your identity on file

source - https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/04/01/executive-order-blocking-property-certain-persons-engaging-significant-m
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
Gresham's Lawyer
January 04, 2014, 02:24:55 AM
Well said.. It's unfortunate that our public news channels in the US are being used to propagate his demonization to the public.
It is not a one-sided discussion on the media.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/rieder/2014/01/02/does-edward-snowden-deserve-clemency/4288535/
New York Times and USA Today are widely circulated.

Quote from: Guardian as reprinted in USA Today
"We hope," the paper wrote, "that calm heads within the present administration are working on a strategy to allow Mr Snowden to return to the US with dignity, and the president to use his executive powers to treat him humanely and in a manner that would be a shining example about the value of whistleblowers and of free speech itself."
sr. member
Activity: 352
Merit: 250
January 03, 2014, 07:06:44 PM
If anyone believes that Snowden could have made a tiny dent in NSA and government behaviors by following normal channels of communication, I have 10 million Dogecoins i want to trade you for 10 million BTC.

THERE IS ZERO POSSIBILITY that the NSA or government would have done anything if Snowden would have followed proper channels. ANY Channel available to him would have led to 1) losing his job 2) worse 3) the government plugging the holes that Snowden used and furthering their lies to the American people. There is no end to corruption and manipulation in an organization that has every email about every person at their disposal. How many Senators would Ed Snowden have had to talk to before he found one that was incorruptible and had not dirt in his email closet. ALL OF THEM and he would have failed.

Snowden will go down in history as a hero of our times. I doubt if anyone criticizing him would have ever had the courage to do what he did or the foresight to understand the folly of doing anything else.

The exposure and change we are seeing related to our privacy has been nothing but amazing and we have only one man to thank and that is Edward Snowden.





Well said.. It's unfortunate that our public news channels in the US are being used to propagate his demonization to the public.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1005
frantorres_995 at socialmedia
January 03, 2014, 05:54:21 PM
If Snowden was russian, russia already would have killed him.

However, it's admirable that has given up a normal life to protect the freedom of others
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 2349
Eadem mutata resurgo
January 03, 2014, 05:46:01 PM
Thanks all for getting out and voting with your wallets!

Financial tyranny is subtle yet every bit as evil as any other.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
January 03, 2014, 10:35:07 AM
The Snowden Defense Fund address now contains more than US$120,000

https://blockchain.info/address/1snowqQP5VmZgU47i5AWwz9fsgHQg94Fa


It is no exaggeration to say that were it not for Bitcoin, it might not have been possible to get him any money.


Without Bitcoin, a repeat of the Wikileaks Blockade by PayPal/Visa/Mastercard would have been likely.
With Bitcoin, such a Blockade would be pointless.


                This is an incredible victory that cannot be understated.


A system of financial Tyranny has been neutralised.
People have LOST WARS for less and thought it was worth it.


To the Entire Bitcoin Community, from Satoshi, to the coders, to the Basement miners,
right down to the confused forum trolls, whether you agree with Snowden or not


               You should all be immensely proud of what has happened here, such victories are rare.



And to the cynical Wielders and abusers of the world financial system.
You made Bitcoin necessary with your systematic abuse, it broke your stranglehold.
There is more to come. Butthurt Much?
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