Topic: BitCoins for Edward Snowden. - page 4. (Read 30964 times)

How does one provide Edward Snowden a bitcoin address without anyone else gaining access to it. He's kinda in hiding right now so it's not like you can simply go and whisper the private key in his ear so he can gain access to all his donated coins. Until that problem has been solved I'm not donating anything.

The same arguments that the US Government uses to excuse their "collateral damage" could legitimately be claimed by the 9/11 hijackers.

If you look at the amount of damage the US's economic hit men did to countries around the world, any resident of those countries could plausibly claim that the Pentagon and World Trade Center contained legitimate military targets from their perspective.

If you apply even the slightest bit of logical consistency to the matter,  the US DoD and Al-Qaeda are in the same category - either both are terrorist organizations, or neither of them are.

I saw the 60 minutes piece with NSA. And then I read the guardian story about it later on.

NSA is of course trying desperately to regain public trust, but it's all a play, it's all scripted.

Personally I think it's so sad that honesty does not exist in this world. You can't believe a word that you hear.

While Snowden was depicted as a cheater and a weirdo by the NSA, a former colleague of Snowden called him a genius among geniuses.

It's also really comforting that this FISA court has no way of enforcing or overseeing their rulings, they just need to trust NSA to do the right thing.

Meanwhile, the nobel price peace winners home country, the US of A killed a dozen people in a wedding convoy in Yemen:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/15/world/meast/yemen-drones/

So let me get this right.

1. Terrorists are humans who kills innocent people. The people killed are often random passers by, or just being at the wrong spot at the wrong time.

2. The US Govt. just killed a dozen people in a wedding convoy, most of them completely innocent people.

How does this not make the US Govt terrorists? This is only collateral damage, not to be concerned about?

I think this question is warranted: How would you feel about it, if you went to a wedding with your spouse, to celebrate some of the finest day in someones life, and then all of a sudden pure carnage took place. Your wife had her intestines spilling out of her gut, while her head is shot off from the blast, and she's bleeding to death. Your son is nothing but wet spagetthi on the ground, looking like somebody just prepared a meat pudding. Yourself, you can't see a thing, as you just got both blinded and deafened by the blast. A dozen of the people you love and care about are dead. Life will never be the same again, your health and your family is ruined. The survivors will grow an intense hate towards the people who committed this atrocious crime. And thus new terrorists are born.

The industrial-millitary complex keeps churning, making, maintenance and contracts regarding drones, sattelites and ground stations. Everything is profit for the businesses involved. The lives of innocent civilians does not matter.

The lives of people in Yemen are worth exactly zero. Imagine the outrage if this happend in London, in Berlin or in Washington.

The interesting thing is however that what somebody does against someone else, it can always be returned. If the US can develop drone technologies and do drone attacks, who else can? And can the payload and casualties be increased? What will happen in the world in the years to come - that's the interesting question.

Nobody could imagine that NSA would put their hands down and say: Yes, we did wrong - and we will mend our ways.

By the end of the day - everybody working at the NSA, or any business in the millitary industry complex, or for any other state millitary has the same basic needs. Everybody needs to have somebody to love and to be loved, everybody enjoys time in harmony and peace with their family. So in the protected environment of our homes, we make love, we show love, we pet our dog, we feed our cat, but once we go out the door, we put on the iron mask. We do not care about other people. Somebody having a breakdown of their car on the highway? We don't stop, it could be a trap, not our business, they'll get help anyway.. Somebody just died in an accident on the highway. Well, bad luck we say - and keep driving. Somebody got droned in Yemen, well that's just as interesting as knowing there was snowing in Chicago last saturday and their basketball team lost a match. We yawn and keep driving, finally arriving home, taking off the iron mask, placing it in the entrance, and for a few hours we become human with our family before it's time to repeat it all over again. And in the end... what happens.. ? Who knows. Perhaps you become the victim of a terrorist attack caused by someone who was turned into a terrorist by having their family killed in a drone attack? Or perhaps you get killed in a dark alley by a petty thief that just wants your money, but you rejected his demands, or while you put on lipstick waiting for the green light on your daily drive to your job as a consultant at Fort Meade.

A hollywood movie with a karma theme would be quite interesting.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/12/16/an-nsa-coworker-remembers-the-real-edward-snowden-a-genius-among-geniuses/


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-16/judge-rules-nsas-indiscriminate-arbitrary-invasion-privacy-likely-unconstitutional

Oh how the tide is turning, beware of the flood tide of truth when it comes. Wonder why it is Libertarians seem it be over-represented by genius ... hmmm, I wonder, think they know something?

I have a question for Mr Snowden pls

What about this?
Holographic Versatile Disc

Nah, it is apparent from Prism that few people are buying the government line anymore. They know it and they are sweating.

They are going all out to stay in control, but it looks like they are losing their grip.
The whole Syrian thing is not going well for them. They wanted to be in there with their latest false flag attack (Assad using chemical weapons when it looks like the Rebels did) but that didn't work and Russia
has stepped things up. Luckily, we the people have friends. And Obama's charade is falling apart as well.

Apparently we have friends in the US military who are not buying into things...

Hopefully the criminals clinging to power don't get their war or whatever means they will try for to stay, or regain control.

It is important for people to speak their minds and not let the panopticon direct their actions. We are our own "public relations"...

Enjoy the show, and we got the Universe on our side.  

now they will start war against you and may be deployed you in sea that you are against their views

That's a tautology, dear Marcus of Augustus. A state is by definition a rogue. And it is more than that: It's organized violence.



The state has been at war against humankind since the invention of the state, 10'000 years ago. Citizenry is the result of that. Citizenry is the cartoon of humankind - a citizen is not a human, but a cartoon of it, a collectivist, a protection money payer, an enforced mafioso.

Because the government of the USA are terrorists.

.. it's just how it happens with rogue states. Lies are Truth, up is down, black is white, bad is good ... everything goes crazy because the governing infrastructure is effectively at war with the citizenry so nothing seems to make sense any more. It's kind of tearing itself apart, the fabric of society is being disintegrated by the legal and moral contradictions spewing out in the form of decrees and edicts.

yes I agree first hero declares as enemies and then they became heroes

Because he is a hero.

USA official declare him enemy of state so why you call him hero

Great move by WikiLeaks to go broad with the Snowden fund, which seems to be building up a template for future whistleblowers to be granted safe haven when exposing how completely corrupt and out of control our governments have become.


It is good to see the Bitcoin magnates stepping forward as well

Just sent 1 BTC to our hero.

ill be glad to donate him a few bitcoins..

I was donating to WikiLeaks directly before Snowden was offered Asylum. Hoping some of the btc sent there and not to the 1snow cacount still went to him

So big win for wikileaks for enabling bitcoin donations.

Amazing: 5'000 Dollars of the donated 11'000.- until today come from the 1 Percent, the Bitcoiners.

https://blockchain.info/address/1snowqQP5VmZgU47i5AWwz9fsgHQg94Fa
https://wikileaks.org/freesnowden

Snowden is a hero.

Just sent 5BTC to the defense fund.

I wish for him to be able to start a real life again sometime...