Topic: BitCoins for Edward Snowden. - page 6. (Read 30964 times)

On July 14, 2004, the surveillance court for the first time approved the gathering of information by the NSA, which created the equivalent of a digital vault to hold Internet metadata. Kollar-Kotelly’s order authorized the metadata program under a FISA provision known as the “pen register/trap and trace,” or PRTT.

The ruling was a secret not just to the public and most of Congress, but to all of Kollar-Kotelly’s surveillance court colleagues. Under orders from the president, none of the court’s other 10 members could be told about the Internet metadata program, which was one prong of a larger and highly classified data-gathering effort known as the President’s Surveillance Program, or PSP.

But the importance of her order — which approved the collection based on a 1986 law typically used for phone records — was hard to overstate.

“The order essentially gave NSA the same authority to collect bulk Internet metadata that it had under the PSP,” the inspector general’s report said, with some minor caveats including reducing the number of people who could access the records.

On May 24, 2006, Kollar-Kotelly signed another order, this one authorizing the bulk collection of phone metadata from U.S. phone companies, under a FISA provision known as Section 215, or the ”business records provision,” of the USA Patriot Act.

As with the PRTT order, the Justice Department and NSA “collaboratively designed the application, prepared declarations and responded to questions from court advisers,” the inspector general’s report said. “Their previous experience in drafting the PRTT order made this process more efficient.”

Pretty ironic that your sig is "GROUPTHINK kills braincells!!!!!!"

I don't believe anything, so the answer to your question is "no", even if I thought it was real. I don't know anything about the guy personally, and I KNOW the media plain makes shit up, and I know that if he is all over the msm, it is because the powers that be want him to be on it, and that they are using the story to push an agenda.

Yeah, maybe Snowden doesn't even exist and instead he's a secret reptillian shapeshifter. Assange isn't actually hiding out in the Ecuadorian embassy, it's an actor and the real Assange is at camp david waiting for his next orders. Bradley Manning is part of the rothschild world jewish banking conspiracy to leak classified material in order to distract the media from their secret plans to open a porthole into the fifth dimension.

OK, well then to put some more spin on the theoretical alien ball game, if Obama doesn't expect Putin to extradite Snowden, does forcefully demanding it give Putin more credibility domestically in Russia?  Is Obama doing Putin a favor with this?
The NSA by now likely know just how much Snowden has and can have accommodated.  So now it would be more gamesmanship and public opinion management?  The Byzantine-General voting tally, as it were.
Conspiracy theory makes for fun script writing, but other than that, is it useful for anything?

No, I actually don't think it's a conspiracy. I was just saying that to get the loon off my back (don't tell him or he'll tell aliens to come get me). lol

I'm no conspiracy buff, but wouldn't that put j.assange and wikileaks on the inside of the conspiracy as well?  Are they sock-pups?

Any real leaker wouldn't be given mainstream media press coverage...

Because ALL mainstream media is crafted to serve a purpose and 99% of it is complete made up bullshit - not biased covering of events, but complete fabrication.

No, I did read it. I just thought maybe you were the "staff reporter" they credited. You're right, it's all a big conspiracy. It just sounds like a lot of effort wasted on a country full of people that care so little about the inner workings of their government that they seldom even vote. lol

Why don't you follow your own advice. You didn't even read what I wrote or any of the article. You've switched from strawman to ad hominem fallacies. I think we're done here.

Groupthink requires that you THINK! What your saying sounds like mad rambling paranoia. What agenda could they possibly have for making the government look bad? The "powers that be" wouldn't happen to be aliens would they?

I don't believe anything, so the answer to your question is "no", even if I thought it was real. I don't know anything about the guy personally, and I KNOW the media plain makes shit up, and I know that if he is all over the msm, it is because the powers that be want him to be on it, and that they are using the story to push an agenda.

Pretty ironic that your sig is "GROUPTHINK kills braincells!!!!!!"

Do you or do you not believe the Snowden case is real?

Um..no. Please try to avoid making strawman arguments.

If you don't understand what a strawman is, it generally takes this form "So you think [inject something other person didn't say here], that's crazy!"

What I think is that everyone already knows that the government spies on them, and no one trusts the government already. Pretty much every independent poll ever done on gov trust confirms that.

Why this Snowden story? Not sure, but the folks over at the Daily Bell have some good guesses: https://www.thedailybell.com/29215/Edward-Snowden-Limited-Hangout-or-a-Globalist-Step-Back

So you think they fabricated a story about Snowden because you think they want America to think they can't trust their government? That sounds a little nuts.

Let's speculate about the forces motivating a Snowden gambit. First of all, the surveillance state is so big that those behind its creation cannot deny it anymore. Second, it is has been exposed constantly by the alternative media, making mainstream media look even less credible than usual.

What to do? They used to call what is going on a "limited hangout." What we call the Internet Reformation has perhaps forced the hands of those behind the surveillance state. Under pressure to acknowledge what is clearly taking place, they have created a great and dramatic show.

How do you do something like that? With an argument. Creating the argument is simple enough, as is the solution. With so much information available on Intel spying, the powers-that-be have apparently decided it is time to create a public discourse. Thesis (there is surveillance state) plus anti-thesis (it shouldn't exist) yields to synthesis: Some of it is necessary.

Because ALL mainstream media is crafted to serve a purpose and 99% of it is complete made up bullshit - not biased covering of events, but complete fabrication.

Most americans already know that the NSA can listen in whenever they want - nothing new has been revealed.

What? Why do you say that?

Edward Snowjob is just another government meme.

Any real leaker wouldn't be given mainstream media press coverage.