Bitcointalk Escrows - Trade Safely! - page 12.

RHavar

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Might be the wrong place for it, but I made a free escrow service and would appreciate being listed. Cool

https://www.bithra.com/ (thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bithracom-free-and-provably-fair-escrow-1456828)

It has no fees, and it's completely automated (thus has no arbitration). It's designed to be the moral equivalent of 2-of-2 multisig, but easier to use (initiated completely by 1 party, and no public keys).

SebastianJu

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Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile

Quote from: Quickseller on May 02, 2016, 03:03:04 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on May 02, 2016, 02:51:33 AM

rem123

Quote from: rem123 on May 01, 2016, 07:32:06 AM

I would like to be added to the list of escrow services 1% (Min 0.01BTC)
1500+ trades localbitcoins.com
Many vouches.

It's not enough to claim you had such amounts of trades. It's not enough to register a name of an escrow that might exist on another forum. You would need to proof that you are this same person. You would do that by signing a message with an old address this escrow posted somewhere. Or proof that you own his pgp key.

There are no rules in regards to who can and cannot offer their escrow services. Even when deciding who to trust to act as escrow, the judgment used is more of an art then a science. Anyone can choose to trust anyone to act as an escrow agent for any given trade.

I would not personally trust someone simply because they have a lot of trades under their belt on LBC, especially considering that it is fairly common for LBC accounts to be traded. 1,500 trades is a lot though and someone with that many trades is likely to have a lot of experience in terms of evaluating conditions of a trade.

You are right of course. Everyone can trust everyone. Though when asking to be included into this list here it would be fully useless to claim such amount of trades and have nothing but his word for it. Maybe he only registered the username of an escrow on the other forum? Anyway... proofing such trades is worth a lot for trust and needed before Marco considers to add him.

Quickseller

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Quote from: SebastianJu on May 02, 2016, 02:51:33 AM

rem123

Quote from: rem123 on May 01, 2016, 07:32:06 AM

I would like to be added to the list of escrow services 1% (Min 0.01BTC)
1500+ trades localbitcoins.com
Many vouches.

It's not enough to claim you had such amounts of trades. It's not enough to register a name of an escrow that might exist on another forum. You would need to proof that you are this same person. You would do that by signing a message with an old address this escrow posted somewhere. Or proof that you own his pgp key.

There are no rules in regards to who can and cannot offer their escrow services. Even when deciding who to trust to act as escrow, the judgment used is more of an art then a science. Anyone can choose to trust anyone to act as an escrow agent for any given trade.

I would not personally trust someone simply because they have a lot of trades under their belt on LBC, especially considering that it is fairly common for LBC accounts to be traded. 1,500 trades is a lot though and someone with that many trades is likely to have a lot of experience in terms of evaluating conditions of a trade.

SebastianJu

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Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile

knightdk

Quote from: achow101 on May 01, 2016, 07:57:54 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on May 01, 2016, 07:49:25 PM

I have a question... assuming a 2 of 3 multisig escrow... when the coins are released out of the multisig address, can it be said who of these 3 signed the message for the release? Or could one person try to scam by playing 2 persons and scamming the third? Claiming that he signed without it being right already?

The signatures are public, so it would be fairly trivial to figure out which keys signed the transaction.

Thanks, that's good to know regarding safety of an escrow in such situation.

rem123

Quote from: rem123 on May 01, 2016, 07:32:06 AM

I would like to be added to the list of escrow services 1% (Min 0.01BTC)
1500+ trades localbitcoins.com
Many vouches.

It's not enough to claim you had such amounts of trades. It's not enough to register a name of an escrow that might exist on another forum. You would need to proof that you are this same person. You would do that by signing a message with an old address this escrow posted somewhere. Or proof that you own his pgp key.

defcon23

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Quote from: Dabs on May 01, 2016, 11:11:43 PM

It's marcotheminer's thread, so it's basically his list. I'm at the bottom of the list, but I'm not complaining. Might consider raising my rates actually, I haven't changed them in 3 years.

yeah .. indeed .. and it's why i suggest to th OP to change the title of this thread in:
" marcotheminer's Bitcointalk escrow list" .... ( sarcasm.. Wink

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i really love the part:

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It's marcotheminer's thread, so it's basically his list

Dabs

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The Concierge of Crypto

It's marcotheminer's thread, so it's basically his list. I'm at the bottom of the list, but I'm not complaining. Might consider raising my rates actually, I haven't changed them in 3 years.

achow101

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Just writing some code

Quote from: SebastianJu on May 01, 2016, 07:49:25 PM

I have a question... assuming a 2 of 3 multisig escrow... when the coins are released out of the multisig address, can it be said who of these 3 signed the message for the release? Or could one person try to scam by playing 2 persons and scamming the third? Claiming that he signed without it being right already?

The signatures are public, so it would be fairly trivial to figure out which keys signed the transaction.

SebastianJu

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Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile

I have a question... assuming a 2 of 3 multisig escrow... when the coins are released out of the multisig address, can it be said who of these 3 signed the message for the release? Or could one person try to scam by playing 2 persons and scamming the third? Claiming that he signed without it being right already?

Timelord2067

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Quote from: rem123 on May 01, 2016, 07:32:06 AM

I would like to be added to the list of escrow services 1% (Min 0.01BTC)
1500+ trades localbitcoins.com
Many vouches.

So, tell us about yourself. No trades on your Wallet Address (from your profile page) https://blockchain.info/address/1CAGaKUne9xfjigB37zUjRADTRwoQnezSj as yet.

Do you have an Escrow page as yet?

rem123

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I would like to be added to the list of escrow services 1% (Min 0.01BTC)
1500+ trades localbitcoins.com
Many vouches.

defcon23

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right , thanx for the update marco. also , it's only 1% for my escrow service . ( not + tx fee)
Thanx. Cheesy

is this "your list" ? do you think having the right to choose who can be mentioned on this list ?
hilarious...

you have removed me from this list just to make pleasure to vod , without any legit reason , who are you for thinking having the right to judge ? what kind of credibility do you have ?
edit for your mind: I NEVER HAD ANY KIND OF DEAL WITH VOD .... so, on what criters have you removed me from "your" list ? on vod based fake accusations ? .... take the time to think about that ... and judge yourself .

remind you this PM... :

Quote from: marcotheminer on February 24, 2016, 10:21:46 AM

Quote from: defcon23 on February 21, 2016, 11:36:31 AM

dear marco,

i contact you cause i dont undersatnd why i'm removed from bitcointalk escrow list .. my thread is still open ..

Thanx a lot in advance to correct that.

Best regards,

You have negative trust from Vod. I'm not sure anyone would agree with having you in the thread. If you can convince Vod to change his rating to a neutral, I will consider adding you once again.

Regards

marcotheminer

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I don't mind Hilarious updating the list as long as he lets me know (and others) what has changed.

defcon23

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Quote from: Quickseller on April 29, 2016, 12:52:07 PM

Quote from: defcon23 on April 29, 2016, 12:10:06 PM

i inform all interested users ( and marotheminer by the way : if you can add me back to your list .. ), about my escrow service is available again .
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-offer-escrow-service-1054602

kind regards Wink

I don't think Marco has updated this list in a while now. The same is actually true for most of his threads. I might see about asking him if he minds if haralious or another moderator edits the OP to keep it updated.

ho.. i see.. it should be indeed a good idea ...

Quickseller

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Quote from: defcon23 on April 29, 2016, 12:10:06 PM

i inform all interested users ( and marotheminer by the way : if you can add me back to your list .. ), about my escrow service is available again .
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-offer-escrow-service-1054602

kind regards Wink

I don't think Marco has updated this list in a while now. The same is actually true for most of his threads. I might see about asking him if he minds if haralious or another moderator edits the OP to keep it updated.

defcon23

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i inform all interested users ( and marotheminer by the way : if you can add me back to your list .. ), about my escrow service is available again .
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-offer-escrow-service-1054602

kind regards Wink

GregH37

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Quote from: Novep on April 22, 2016, 09:36:06 AM

Hey marco, I'd like to ask permission to translate this thread to my local subforum here. It would be easy for some if we also have this list.

I don't think you need permission for this. you can translate it into your local language/board on the forum and give credit to marco. and add a link to this official list.
you can ask marco on PM also. I think he is not following his thread anymore. because I see new escrow services available but marco didn't updated the OP yet.

Divinux

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Looks like BitPop stopped providing his services Embarrassed

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitpop-reputation-231416

(Just so you can update the list)

Timelord2067

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Quote from: ezeminer on April 06, 2016, 02:02:36 PM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on April 06, 2016, 12:55:31 PM

You mean like how Escrows are signing messages with PGP/GPG now via an offline computer?

Asking for Part Public Keys might slow down some one who's looking to scam, it'll at least make them sit up and take notice (and pay closer attention). It's an option an Escrow can offer.

I only read Sebastion's post. But looking at it now, it looks time intensive. I think I have wrapped my head around the concept, but am not completely sure.

I was meaning to secure the generation of bitcoin addresses you should generate them offline.

By having someone's Part Public Key and generating a "vanity" wallet (eg 1234xxx) with that P'PubKey you could (and people do) post the resultant Part Private Key online and no one can access the funds except the wallet owner that it's destined for.

The funder gets a wallet address to send funds to by the Escrow, no different to the Escrow generating a one time wallet that they request funds are sent to - the only difference is the wallet can't be accessed by either the Escrow, nor the one the funds are going until the exchange is made, then the Escrow sends the Part Private Key.

The funder has to be made aware there will be no refunds (not unless the other party came to an arrangement with the Escrow to hand over the P'PrivKey ) - Similarly, the other party knows they won't get the funds until they hand over funds etc etc.

Novep

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