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It's true, but I wouldn't sell 1BTC anytime soon.. Grin
Also USD valuation only helps if you're in USA, otherwise you need EUR or GBP valuation etc.

despite I am living in Europe, EUR is my fiat currency, every time I use valuation in USD since it is an international standard, and generically the price is referred in USD from the scratch.
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Who cares about dollar valuation of Bitcoin? Tongue
Everyone Grin
How do you determine the value of some goods or services you are interested in purchasing? You convert the fiat value to bitcoin. At least that's how most people do it. Maybe you prefer paying 10 BTC for everything you buy. Wink Usually when we hear things like 1 Bitcoin=1 Bitcoin, people only say that when it favors them. When it's time to spend that 1 Bitcoin, it's a completely different story. 
It's true, but I wouldn't sell 1BTC anytime soon.. Grin
Also USD valuation only helps if you're in USA, otherwise you need EUR or GBP valuation etc.
I am also bitcoin optimistic and holding my coins for the long term continuing with my DCA and don't have plans to spend them.The USD is most strongest fiat currency in the term of global trade and accepted almost everywhere and that's why most of the prices are denominated in USD but you the local exchange also show them at your legal currency also.Like the premium rates have been for btc in South Korea for some time and they were way too high than global market.But you can always make conversions to legal fiat of bitcoin.
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Who cares about dollar valuation of Bitcoin? Tongue
Everyone Grin
How do you determine the value of some goods or services you are interested in purchasing? You convert the fiat value to bitcoin. At least that's how most people do it. Maybe you prefer paying 10 BTC for everything you buy. Wink Usually when we hear things like 1 Bitcoin=1 Bitcoin, people only say that when it favors them. When it's time to spend that 1 Bitcoin, it's a completely different story. 
It's true, but I wouldn't sell 1BTC anytime soon.. Grin
Also USD valuation only helps if you're in USA, otherwise you need EUR or GBP valuation etc.
legendary
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Who cares about dollar valuation of Bitcoin? Tongue

Everyone who owns Bitcoin at the moment.

If you're a supporter of it, you'll want it to gain a high market cap. If you support if fanatically, you'll probably want it to gain the highest market cap asset position. Now that you can't pay your bills with it, it's important to know the exchange rate, otherwise they'll rip you off. For instance, if your business accepts Bitcoin, someone pays you 0.1 BTC and the next week the exchange rate drops by 30% and another pays you 0.1, you'll have accumulate 0.2 BTC, but your earnings will have dropped by 15%. Thus, you will have losses.

In a society where you pay everything with fiat, it is required to convert your BTC to USD/EUR/GBP; it is required to play by the rules.
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Who cares about dollar valuation of Bitcoin? Tongue
Everyone Grin
How do you determine the value of some goods or services you are interested in purchasing? You convert the fiat value to bitcoin. At least that's how most people do it. Maybe you prefer paying 10 BTC for everything you buy. Wink Usually when we hear things like 1 Bitcoin=1 Bitcoin, people only say that when it favors them. When it's time to spend that 1 Bitcoin, it's a completely different story. 
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Now, having written that rant, where the bitcointalk channel at??

Let see what will comes first?

BTC @ $100k
or
Bitcointalk YouTube channel

My bet is on BTC to cross $100k.
Who cares about dollar valuation of Bitcoin? Tongue
legendary
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Let see what will comes first?
Both of them aren't going to happen anytime soon. This is what matters.  Tongue
But there is full surety that both things are going to take place even it takes some time and that is what matters the most in the end.Maybe some delays in channel launch and btc prices to reach $100k but once the ignition is on there is no coming back and that's for sure Cheesy
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Farewell, Leo
Let see what will comes first?
Both of them aren't going to happen anytime soon. This is what matters.  Tongue
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Now, having written that rant, where the bitcointalk channel at??

Let see what will comes first?

BTC @ $100k
or
Bitcointalk YouTube channel

My bet is on BTC to cross $100k.

legendary
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But right now, as far as Youtube is concerned, we're dealing with a bunch of amateurs acting like trained journalists or academics, and there's really no way of knowing what someone's background is when you're watching their videos.  But they all seem to be operating by the same cookie-cutter playbook, and what we're all left with is a bunch of sheep doing the same thing in order to produce the same style of content to get the same results per Youtube's algorithm.  That means everything has to be family-friendly, of a certain length, and in addition to that usually means there's always going to be some kind of product sponsorship mentioned in the videos.  It's maddening.
This has become some type of headache to watch such videos and seeing how the hell people can believe what those unprofessional youtubers are chanting to the viewers.The YouTube recommendation algorithm is set up in a way that once you watch any of them you will start having them in your homepage and same thing is happening with people like they searched for bitcoin in the hype then they will come across those fake ideologies which will preach them how to make millions in bitcoin without doing nothing and installing those fake sponsored apps.In the name of trend the rise of such videos have gone too high and those who have zero knowledge are also making videos about them.These are not fake and you can have a look at them yourself and if you are aware of bitcoin working then you would bleed sometimes to exaggerate watching and listening to them.Their main aim is to gain your single view and earn from it and they are earning not you with all these clickbait titles making you all fool.

As an aside, while we're on the subject of Youtube: something I saw yesterday made me want to rip my pubes out: a fairly young woman quit her PhD program to become a full-time Youtuber.  She said in one of her videos that she connects more with her subscribers than she does with anyone in her academic program.  That's repulsive to me, because I see people being satisfied less with face-to-face communication and more through texts and likes and comments.  Now I know PhD studies are notoriously hard, but choosing to be a Youtube celebrity/influencer over a career in academia or research is baffling to me.  And then there's this woman who quit her PhD program and puts a lot of blame on "the patriarchy".  Ugh.
So another one where they are showing some fake connection between them and their youtube family.I also don't understand if you are unable to communicate to a person face to face with whom you can share lot of things and exchange ideas in person then how can you have chit chat with online friends? See i know some persons are introvert and they like to make online relation but all these things like giving up carrier in PHD just for YouTube videos is not a good move.But the reason is you can earn a lot on YouTube if you gain subscriber and views on your video but is she gonna interact with them daily and left her carrier for just this as she was not communicating with others? These are some kind of online and fake things on which we can't have faith.


Now, having written that rant, where the bitcointalk channel at??
We are already four days up from mid September and there might be green signal anytime from @Cyrus about the channel.
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Clickbait isn't something revolutionary or new at all. It has been around for as long as you can imagine, if you look at old newspapers from back in the 40/50s you'll see clickbait.
That's what I was saying:

When you boil it down, it's nothing more than sensationalism, and that's been around for as long as publication has existed.  
And it's been around waaay longer than the 1940s.  In the days when William Randolph Hearst was a publishing magnate, "yellow journalism" was probably at its peak in the US, and journalists didn't even care if what they wrote was true or not.  Things have certainly gotten better since then as far as mainstream news goes, but ultimately it's still the sensationalistic stuff (news/Youtube vids/whatever) that grabs attention.  

But right now, as far as Youtube is concerned, we're dealing with a bunch of amateurs acting like trained journalists or academics, and there's really no way of knowing what someone's background is when you're watching their videos.  But they all seem to be operating by the same cookie-cutter playbook, and what we're all left with is a bunch of sheep doing the same thing in order to produce the same style of content to get the same results per Youtube's algorithm.  That means everything has to be family-friendly, of a certain length, and in addition to that usually means there's always going to be some kind of product sponsorship mentioned in the videos.  It's maddening.

As an aside, while we're on the subject of Youtube: something I saw yesterday made me want to rip my pubes out: a fairly young woman quit her PhD program to become a full-time Youtuber.  She said in one of her videos that she connects more with her subscribers than she does with anyone in her academic program.  That's repulsive to me, because I see people being satisfied less with face-to-face communication and more through texts and likes and comments.  Now I know PhD studies are notoriously hard, but choosing to be a Youtube celebrity/influencer over a career in academia or research is baffling to me.  And then there's this woman who quit her PhD program and puts a lot of blame on "the patriarchy".  Ugh.

Now, having written that rant, where the bitcointalk channel at??
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 Also, for the record I don't actually have a Youtube channel to subscribe to the Bitcointalk channel, but I'll absolutely be contributing with views Cheesy.

If you think you have to do that in order to be successful on Youtube, you're just following the crowd and aren't thinking of a new, better, or original way to do things.
You're right that if you do fall into the trap of following everyone else you aren't being creative, and just following the crowd. However, there's a crowd for a reason. Individuality, doesn't exactly gain you anything when it comes to marketing, because your not catering for yourself, your catering for the mindless masses that'll consume your content.  I only use mindless because a lot of the people accepting this type of delivery are quite often unaware, and just used to it. After all they've been brought up in a marketing centric world. Though, having said that I've definitely become more accepting of clickbait, and marketing techniques on Youtube albeit I don't watch much content there at all, mainly for the reasons already mentioned by yourself, and because I'm not a big fan of just watching content for the sake of it, when I could be doing something else.

However, I'm only really accepting of clickbait when it's for less serious matters. My point before mainly was that I've become more accepting of it, but I didn't really give a good enough reason to when, and why I'm more accepting of it, which hopefully this reply will somewhat clear that up a little bit. For a short answer; am I a fan of clickbaiting? Absolutely not. Do I tolerate it? Yes, to some degree on certain platforms, and depending on the type of content it's aimed at.

The culture has shifted, but that has absolutely nothing to do with why clickbait thumbnails/descriptions are effective.  When you boil it down, it's nothing more than sensationalism, and that's been around for as long as publication has existed.  

So what about the people (like me) who see right through that crap and are in fact sick of it?  Where does that leave people who stopped clicking on Buzzfeed's ubiquitous and nonsensical advertisements a long time ago?  I know I'm not the only one.  If you watch videos on Youtube long enough and have half a brain, you'll figure out that these video makers are manipulating you with tactics that are akin to blowing a bubble in a baby's face and expecting them to say "Goo Goooo!!".

I'm not having any of it anymore, and I'm at the point where I refuse to click on any videos with thumbnails like those in the thread I created in Bitcoin Discussion.  If you think you have to do that in order to be successful on Youtube, you're just following the crowd and aren't thinking of a new, better, or original way to do things.
That's my point, that the culture has shifted drastically over the years. For the record, I always find myself complaining about the clickbait nature of Youtube videos, but even more so when it's news clickbaiting. However, I've come to the point of acceptance with Youtube, I understand that's marketing at the end of the day, and if you were not to partake in it, you'd ultimately lose potential viewers. Obviously, I don't have a Youtube channel, however I find it hard to criticise when literally everyone is doing it.

Although, I do absolutely draw the line at news clickbaiting. That to me is unacceptable, and if you are a Youtube channel that is delivering news, then I would feel the same way. I also avoid clickbait titles when it comes to news related articles, and will look for a less clickbait title elsewhere. Though, you ask what about people like us who avoid that type of clickbait? Well, we are what would be called outliers, and statistically speaking if you are looking to reach as big as an audience that you can, then you aren't going to cater for the outliers your going to cater for those that bring in the money.

Clickbait isn't something revolutionary or new at all. It has been around for as long as you can imagine, if you look at old newspapers from back in the 40/50s you'll see clickbait. It's just that the culture now with the internet becoming mainstream, and the nature of the content delivery clickbait has become a expected thing to do, rather than something that once was considered innovative in marketing.

Also, I believe click baiting is absolutely effective, and there is a reason why literally everyone uses it. I often see people believing the news based on its title, instead of the actual content. We're in a weird situation where people haven't got the time to fact check, and they form their opinions based on little snippets of information, and of course I am generalising here, because there is obviously those that put in the research, but if you go to any sort of major news source, you'll see quite evidently they use clickbait to push certain opinions onto its users. I for one don't like most news sources, I used to believe the BBC were at least a little bit better than most news sources, but recently I've caught them using the exact same tactics likely because they've been feeling the pressure to generate more clicks.

I know I'm not the only one.  If you watch videos on Youtube long enough and have half a brain, you'll figure out that these video makers are manipulating you with tactics that are akin to blowing a bubble in a baby's face and expecting them to say "Goo Goooo!!".
My Youtube consumption is extremely low compared to most people. I don't even have a Youtube account where I subscribe to channels I like. I just visit probably 3/4 channels that I watch every so often, I don't even watch all of their videos, just when I feel like it. However, your point here
applies to literally everything these days, you're being manipulated in multiple ways of everything you watch, and see. We are literally in a ad apocalypse, because where ever you look you'll see adverts upon adverts. I can't even watch some UFC these days without adverts appearing over the feed. It's absolutely ridiculous, of course for internet based adverts we have things like Pihole, and ad blockers as extensions, but Youtubers have now resorted to advertising in their video itself, which no ad blocker can effectively remove.  I've literally seen videos where the product they are advertising is longer in duration than the actual content itself.

The Bitcointalk channel should have some better thumbnails and it can have some clickbait titles to some extent which will not be problematic actually because the audience will get the requisite knowledge for the same purpose for which video was uploaded unlike those channels who put such thumbnail and have nothing in the name of content and usually waste time in channel and fake promotion.If you have some clickbait titles as promotional technique then the video should be of that quality also.
Professionally done thumbnails are always nice, but I'm actually a fan of content over production. If your content is worthy of watching, but your production lets you down, then I'm not going to stop watching. If your production is amazing, yet the content is dry, or doesn't really bring anything to the table, I'm not going to be that interested. Though, this is where the outliers come in; I'm probably considered an outlier from that perspective, there is plenty of examples out there who are much more successful than me, that have rather poor quality content, but amazing production value.
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Probably some highlights in the forum or the important announcements and what are their implications to the future of the forum, to be honest, the only thing that we can probably talked about in the YouTube channel is probably what's already in the forum.
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So let's say I'd start filming tomorrow. What type of content/themes would you like to see?
Things that you'd like to watch, whether you're a grumpy Bitcointalk veteran or just hearing out about our wonderful community.
Well, I would like to share my thoughts about this subject.

I believe it is VERY valid for us to create courses, tutorials and educational content (this could be the main theme of the channel), but we can also cover publishing news content, but certainly other content, for example, bringing some guests to the channel, podcast and others topics pertinent to this topic (of course this is my humble opinion)

I will mention some of the reasons that I think the creation courses, tutorials and educational content is very valid and interesting.

• These days, with several cryptocurrencies hitting your ATH, we see several stories being posted on internet news sites.
Sometimes even passing a distorted image of cryptocurrencies to the rest of the population, for example, Bitcoin is a bubble, this type of currency is used for terrorism and so on.
There are even some people who participate in ponzi schemes and after they lose their money, they blame crypto. But this is the person's fault because he/she has no knowledge about this subject

• Another point, there is a huge number of people who do not know Bitcoin and have no idea what it is, however, this type of event is good, because we will have chances to "evangelize" these people to use crypto and get to know this kind of disruptive technology

• If we manage to create a channel with quality content, and somehow easy to understand, we will consequently attract many people to the "world of cryptoactives"

Well, if you need help creating some content for the channel, I can help you and i will be avaliable
The area that I have knowledge is, economics, monetary theory, micro and macroeconomics. econometrics, quantitative finance and others related subjects.

If you need help with translation, I'm a native Portuguese speaker and I can also help with translation.
I believe that's it, I hope I helped you and thank you so much

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What would you more likely be interested in clicking? "Welsh from Bitcointalk deletes post" or "WELSH THE MODERATOR IS CENSORING USERS". Unfortunately, the way our minds work, and how the culture is shifting, the second option will likely be the most intriguing to 99% of people.
The culture has shifted, but that has absolutely nothing to do with why clickbait thumbnails/descriptions are effective.  When you boil it down, it's nothing more than sensationalism, and that's been around for as long as publication has existed. 

So what about the people (like me) who see right through that crap and are in fact sick of it?  Where does that leave people who stopped clicking on Buzzfeed's ubiquitous and nonsensical advertisements a long time ago?  I know I'm not the only one.  If you watch videos on Youtube long enough and have half a brain, you'll figure out that these video makers are manipulating you with tactics that are akin to blowing a bubble in a baby's face and expecting them to say "Goo Goooo!!".

I'm not having any of it anymore, and I'm at the point where I refuse to click on any videos with thumbnails like those in the thread I created in Bitcoin Discussion.  If you think you have to do that in order to be successful on Youtube, you're just following the crowd and aren't thinking of a new, better, or original way to do things.
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Honestly, I wouldn't be too critical if Bitcointalk did clickbait to some degree. Maybe, not to the degree I went to above, but a more subtle way. It's great being as fair as possible, without generating clickbait, but then the chances are success fall. If you don't care overly about success then that's alright, but it's likely that the channel will need to at least generate some sort of independent income to keep it going.
These are some tricks to have views on the video uploaded on YouTube as most of the audience is attracted to that type of videos and you are right on that part like if the video says "how bitcoin works " or the other is "how to make millions using bitcoin" then undoubtedly more views will be on the later one and the first one will have less interaction.

The Bitcointalk channel should have some better thumbnails and it can have some clickbait titles to some extent which will not be problematic actually because the audience will get the requisite knowledge for the same purpose for which video was uploaded unlike those channels who put such thumbnail and have nothing in the name of content and usually waste time in channel and fake promotion.If you have some clickbait titles as promotional technique then the video should be of that quality also.
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It's not a one-man video crew. Guess we now have one less excuse if we miss the mid-September launch  Grin

A gentle reminder: tomorrow is Sep, 15th, a.k.a. mid September.

Staring at the Calendar, day 3.
Please @Cyrus, I am holding my breath!

I have also been teased of a teaser!
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Putting "Not clickbait" in the title is literally the new type of clickbait. However, I wouldn't be overly critical about clickbaiting. If you want to be somewhat successful on a video content based website or anything in which you see the title before the actual content, then you need to encourage that user to click, and therefore clickbait will always be a thing.

What would you more likely be interested in clicking? "Welsh from Bitcointalk deletes post" or "WELSH THE MODERATOR IS CENSORING USERS". Unfortunately, the way our minds work, and how the culture is shifting, the second option will likely be the most intriguing to 99% of people. Okay, the only thing that's probably off putting is the all caps, but if it wasn't all caps you'd likely be more intrigued than the first one.

Honestly, I wouldn't be too critical if Bitcointalk did clickbait to some degree. Maybe, not to the degree I went to above, but a more subtle way. It's great being as fair as possible, without generating clickbait, but then the chances are success fall. If you don't care overly about success then that's alright, but it's likely that the channel will need to at least generate some sort of independent income to keep it going.
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That thumbnail with the dude holding the phone with the caption reading (Not Clickbait)....just screams clickbait!  And yeah, almost every video that winds up recommended by Youtube has a similar thumbnail, and it doesn't matter if the topic is bitcoin or organic bananas.  I swear to god the world has flipped its lid.
It's quite funny that they are mentioning not clickbait themselves in the caption and having all those fake views also on them and thinking that with this they can have some legitimacy but all those are crap.You are right it's not related to bitcoin only but even if you have searched for anything you would rarely find any quality stuff but most of them are busy promoting fake and scam stuffs and want to gain just your view.

The official bitcointalk channel should focus on bitcointalk, IMO.  I'm waiting with bated breath for the day the channel goes live, and that's the truth.  I can't wait!
Same is the case with many including me as we are already in mid September and anytime soon we could have the announcement of first teaser from @Cyrus and hopefully it spread the much needed awareness among people and save them from all the crap and fake videos out on YouTube.Waiting for its release  Cheesy
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The simple way of ignoring them is not to search for them on YouTube at all or click not interested in side menu of the video and you will see less of them.Here are certain options for you as well Block channels on YouTube
I was aware of the first method, but I usually visit Youtube while not logged into anything Google-related, like Gmail, so there's no option to not accept whatever crap Youtube recommends.  I'll have to check out that link.

That thumbnail with the dude holding the phone with the caption reading (Not Clickbait)....just screams clickbait!  And yeah, almost every video that winds up recommended by Youtube has a similar thumbnail, and it doesn't matter if the topic is bitcoin or organic bananas.  I swear to god the world has flipped its lid.

But bitcointalk official channel should be away from such crap and promote only true and real facts providing knowledge and creating awareness among mass.
The official bitcointalk channel should focus on bitcointalk, IMO.  I'm waiting with bated breath for the day the channel goes live, and that's the truth.  I can't wait!
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