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I, however, would suggest that the channel gets advertised more properly in the forum, maybe one of the designated ad-slots that we all see on each thread could have a link to the youtube channel when videos roll by? Also like small giveaways to the communities to keep them involved? omg I actually cant wait for the first proper-proper-proper video to be released.

I'm not sure spending money on advertising here is the way to go for such a small operation.  I assumed the intent of this channel was to reach a new audience and bring them to our playground.  Considering it's basically a promotional tool for the forum, maybe considering asking for something like a grant and free advertising from bitcointalk would be a better approach.

I also wouldn't mind donating a little something to the cause if they were giving away items to viewers of the channel.  Maybe some silver and/or NFTs.  Hell, I'd go as far as to do the coding for an NFT project if you wanted to give away your own NFTs.  Although maybe it would be best to wait for Bitcoin's infrastructure to catch up on that front before doing so.
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Apparently not enough [perhaps they'd be releasing it next Friday (it'd be exactly one month since they've started "this poll" on Twitter)] Cheesy
- On a serious note, I'd prefer to see a polished video that's a few weeks behind schedule, as opposed to a bunch of videos that were rushed for the sake of uploading content on the channel ["quality over quantity"].

I think we already are a few weeks behind schedule. Also, I am not lowering my expectation, rather raising more and more every Friday I mark on my calendar.
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How many Fridays passed since the teaser is out?
Apparently not enough [perhaps they'd be releasing it next Friday (it'd be exactly one month since they've started "this poll" on Twitter)] Cheesy
- On a serious note, I'd prefer to see a polished video that's a few weeks behind schedule, as opposed to a bunch of videos that were rushed for the sake of uploading content on the channel ["quality over quantity"].
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"Friday is my second favorite F word."


I think everyone already guessed what is your First favorite "F" word  Grin

Anyways, "Friday" is also my second favorite F word. Guess what is the first one? Hey, Don't Be Rude Please. Grin
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In the meantime, I cannot avoid noticing tomorrow is Friday.
Friday is also the best day to release a Video, according to our poll.
Shall I hold my breath for the release?



"Friday is my second favorite F word."



How many Fridays passed since the teaser is out?

1. 29 Oct 2021
2. 05 Nov 2021
3. 12 Nov 2021
legendary
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The stats that you included about the top 25 countries in terms of YouTube views don't mean much for Bitcointalk's channel. Those stats show all possible content that is shown on YouTube.
That may be true, but it's still an interesting chart that told me something I didn't know, and I appreciate posts like that.

And yet I do wonder what the demographic breakdown is/will be for the bitcointalk channel.  I'm not sure if the trailer is anything to go by, but assuming it is, viewership might be small and those viewers might be concentrated in one or two geographic regions.  Hopefully that won't be the case as new videos are released.
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Ah, another data enthusiast, how cheerful. The best that I can show you - at this will be far long from the capabilities that Youtube Analytics has - is how our channel gained subscribers ever since the launch of it. Here's the breakdown taken from SocialBlade[1](take this data with a grain of salt since I don't know how accurate it is):

Oddly, the peak of our video views was on 28/10/2021 - a Thurdsay - which was something that I wasn't expecting. I guess that it was when most users here saw the updated link and eventually decided to check it out. If the data is somewhat right, at the moment we're having an average of 14 subscribers and 70 video views per week. I assume that if we had the standard deviation its value would be high because most of our views came from the initial days and have plumbed (sadly) ever since the end of October - which is somewhat expectable. I think that the marketing (which has to be well thought) hasn't really started yet.

Latest ''revolutionary'' change from youtube - they are removing public dislikes count to ''protect'' smaller creators  Roll Eyes this just sounds like one more way to hide the truth, and I don't understand why dislike button even exist from now on.
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I'll leave here[2][3] the relevant links for your announcement since I also read that update recently and consider that an interesting read. Nice job pointing that out!

@Welsh : aysg76 already posted some workaround but I don't agree that there should be freedom to any user to add captions to the videos, just for the sake of quality control. I know that probably whoever is running the channel would have to review/approve the caption, but considering that he/she probably doesn't understand the text, chances are that he/she will use google translator/DeepL to see if the text is somewhat ... decent I guess? Besides you hate - as do I - Google lack of respect for privacy so the fact that we don't need to have a Google account to do the service is already a bonus should members decide to do this.

What I think should be done, from my point of view, is that whoever is in charge of translation would either send the raw text for whoever is editing the video - much (believe me) less work involved - OR the user creates the subtitles all by himself - from timing to the actual translation - and sends them in a format (probably .srt) that can simply be loaded straight into the video by the channel owner - by using Youtube Studio[4] for example.

[1]https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCVXR5mEts2amf_FzMTEtGgA/monthly
[2]https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/134791097/update-to-youtube-dislike-counts
[3]https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/update-to-youtube/
[4]https://www.washington.edu/accessibility/videos/youtube/
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Fuck I didn't see the teaser up until now. And Oh my god, it is actually really done well; its way better than what I had imagined, and has a totally different aura than what bitcointalk as a forum does. I am actually really stoked to see what the channel is going to cover, so cyrus however long it takes, if the videos have similar or even better quality than what the teaser video has, I am SURE the channel will do well.

Fucking insanely good job on the production, the narrator(not sure if it is you or someone else) did really well, the video was really well done. It felt like an actual youtube video that I would normally watch, so GREAT fuckin Job mr.cyrus!

I, however, would suggest that the channel gets advertised more properly in the forum, maybe one of the designated ad-slots that we all see on each thread could have a link to the youtube channel when videos roll by? Also like small giveaways to the communities to keep them involved? omg I actually cant wait for the first proper-proper-proper video to be released.
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I'm unfamiliar with how Youtube works honestly, is this something that the public can contribute to without having access to the channel in some way? I'm aware of Youtube's automatic captioning service, which can suck a lot of the time, but not familiar with how we would go about submitting captions. I'm guessing you'd need a Google account, submit them, and then they get approved by the channel owner?
Most probably the answer to this is that the channel owner doesn't allow this feature in the video through which users can contribute to the video in much more engaging manner and simply there is auto gendered captions as we see and can turn them off/on the videos.But if this feature is enabled then the users can contribute to add subtitles for the video in languages available but there is process involved in this.Here is an good answer for the same which i have quoted from the reddit users:

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Hi there, you cannot contribute subtitles on all the videos. Only some videos whose creators have enabled contribution have this feature.

Here’s a detailed step by step process:

1) Go to the video that you want to contribute translations or transcriptions to. (Only if this option is available)
2) In the player, select the gear icon (settings button).
3) From the drop-down menu, select
Subtitles/CC > Add subtitles or CC. You can also get there from under the video player by selecting ...More > Add translations.
4) Choose what you want to work on:
a)Closed captions of same language:
i)Select the video's language.
ii)Play the video. When you get to the part where you want to add a caption, type your caption into the box.
iii)Repeat this process for all the audio in the video, then click Submit contribution.
iv)You'll be asked if the captions are complete or if there's still more to be done. This helps us figure out if other contributors need to pick up where you left off. Choose No - Let others keep working on them or Yes - They're ready to be reviewed.
v)Click Submit.

b)Closed captions of different language:
i)Select the language that you'd like to contribute. You can use the search bar to find languages that don't automatically show in the list.
ii)Play the video. When you get to the part where you want to add a subtitle, type your translation into the box. You can also click Auto translate to fill each line with a suggested translation from Google Translate. If you do this, make sure to review and fix each line carefully.
iii)Repeat this process for all the audio in the video, then click Submit.
iv)You'll be asked if the subtitles are complete or if there's still more to be done. This helps us figure out if other contributors need to pick up where you left off. Choose No - Let others keep working on them or Yes - They're ready to be reviewed.
v)Click Submit

But if this feature is disabled which on most of them is you to have to manually do all the task like writing up the subtitles with the correct timestamp of the video in the notepad and then save it as .txt extension and give it the original channel owner to upload it on the YouTube for public view and here is how to do it : Add captions

It can surely help understand those who are not able to understand English properly and subtitles in the local languages are way more appealing to the audience and it seems that they can understand the terms and content in much better way.
legendary
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Latest ''revolutionary'' change from youtube - they are removing public dislikes count to ''protect'' smaller creators  Roll Eyes this just sounds like one more way to hide the truth, and I don't understand why dislike button even exist from now on.
Oh but on positive note, at least we won't have any (public) dislikes on out bitcointalk youtube channels from all the haters...

One suggestion for possible intro video that helps users how to register on bitcointalk forum, but we should include some info for evil fees.
I found one decent video from 2019:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT5HPhO2MA8
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This just occurred to me : What do you think Cyrus (and remaining community of course) of having a voluntary group within bitcointalk that would make subtitles for the videos? I think that this would actually benefit the reach of the channel mainly because:
I'm unfamiliar with how Youtube works honestly, is this something that the public can contribute to without having access to the channel in some way? I'm aware of Youtube's automatic captioning service, which can suck a lot of the time, but not familiar with how we would go about submitting captions. I'm guessing you'd need a Google account, submit them, and then they get approved by the channel owner?

I think the initiative is a good one, after all Bitcoin attracts audiences from around the world, with it being a border less currency.
legendary
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I'm a bit puzzled as to why the trailer video hasn't gotten a massive number of views and that there aren't too many subscribers at present.
It could be because it's a brand-new channel and people aren't yet sure what to expect from it. People usually follow and subscribe to those whose content they like, Bitcointalk still has no content. They have a teaser announcing something that will be released in the future.

Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to consider sponsored Facebook ads, for example. Not sure if YouTube and Twitter offer such packages as well. I keep seeing ads for some scammy Squid token sale all over the place. It might be fun to have them replaced by those of Bitcointalk.
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The stats that you included about the top 25 countries in terms of YouTube views don't mean much for Bitcointalk's channel. Those stats show all possible content that is shown on YouTube.
That may be true, but it's still an interesting chart that told me something I didn't know, and I appreciate posts like that.

And yet I do wonder what the demographic breakdown is/will be for the bitcointalk channel.  I'm not sure if the trailer is anything to go by, but assuming it is, viewership might be small and those viewers might be concentrated in one or two geographic regions.  Hopefully that won't be the case as new videos are released.

A lot of the crypto videos I see are from the US or Canada, though there do seem to be a lot coming from Asian countries.  I don't watch those since I can't understand the language, but I see them coming up in search results or in the related videos list.  People from all over the world are extremely enthusiastic about bitcoin and all things crypto, and even on this forum we have members from a lot of different countries.  I'm a bit puzzled as to why the trailer video hasn't gotten a massive number of views and that there aren't too many subscribers at present.
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In the meantime, I cannot avoid noticing tomorrow is Friday.
Friday is also the best day to release a Video, according to our poll.
Shall I hold my breath for the release?
legendary
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The stats that you included about the top 25 countries in terms of YouTube views don't mean much for Bitcointalk's channel. Those stats show all possible content that is shown on YouTube. We need to know how many of them watch crypto-related videos, or more precisely, which countries are interested in the content created by Bitcointalk.
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Cyrus could check the stats after the release of the first video to see if there is a certain region where a lot of the views come from. Another option could be that at the end of the video he asks the viewers to vote if they would like to see subtitles in their local languages for future videos and for which languages. A link in the video description could be posted to a site where they can cast their votes, for example.
Generating captions in the local languages would definitely have an influence over the audience reach and as per YouTube creator reports the views on video with auto generated captions or synchronized captions are more than on the normal video without captions.But it is time consuming task but the members have volunteered for the same but the video editor needs to sync it with the timing and make changes to it and it would take some more time to add each subtitles for the local languages as there are more than 80 languages globally.

Second if you see the reports we can find out that top countries with most YouTube views are like USA and India followed by Brazil and then other's:



The highest paying audience is also from the USA which means if the targeted audience for the channel came from US it would have great chance of generating more revenue also.But if you see the top country is like USA and India and there is no need for captions to them as most of population understand English but then there are many who doesn't find it suitable to watch without subtitles or best if captions are in local language.The regional views are per this :


So the description could be setup or prepare a summary report after the first episode is published and wait for some days to have an accurate idea about the views count and geographical testing of the video.Then as you said along with it voting option should be given for the local languages.But for that there is need to aware the local community and have reach to them which members could do by promoting the channel in their respective local board so we witness more audience on the channel.Suppose there are only 200-300 views the results or voting will not give correct results as we are targeting global reach.

So we can wait for the first video to be aired and then monitor the growth and collectively make contributions for the channel growth.


https://medium.com/@ChannelMeter/youtubes-top-countries-47b0d26dded
legendary
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Youtube has a really neat platform called "Youtube Analytics"[2] where you are able to see a lot of information regarding your channel. To directly answer your question I would say that Cyrus could use the information straight from the Audience tab:
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  • Returning viewers
  • Unique viewers
  • Subscribers
  • Total members (channel level)
  • Gender
  • Age
  • Top geographies
  • Top subtitle/CC languages
  • Watch time from subscribers
  • Other videos your audience watched (channel level)
  • Other channels your audience watches (channel level)
That's very useful. Thanks for sharing that. I expected that they had something like that but I wasn't really sure. Cyrus could check the stats after the release of the first video to see if there is a certain region where a lot of the views come from. Another option could be that at the end of the video he asks the viewers to vote if they would like to see subtitles in their local languages for future videos and for which languages. A link in the video description could be posted to a site where they can cast their votes, for example.
legendary
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What kind of stats are available to channel owners on YouTube? Can they, for example, see which countries the viewers come from? As a percentage or total count? If that is possible, Cyrus would have some info about which regions are mostly watching and he could focus on those languages first if your idea is approved.  
Since we're talking about Google and ads - In 2021 Q2 (FY) Google Services (of which Youtube ads and other kind of advertising belong) generated $57,1 billion in revenue[1] and $50,444 billion came straight from advertising - Youtube has a really neat platform called "Youtube Analytics"[2] where you are able to see a lot of information regarding your channel. To directly answer your question I would say that Cyrus could use the information straight from the Audience tab:
Assuming that you were referring to the editing part, then all they have to do [AFAICS] is to forward those subtitles to the video editor [he'll be the one to adjust their timings], or did I miss something?
Oh right that could be a solution/option as well. When I did a couple of gigs regarding with subtitles/captioning I would do all work - From translation to create the .srt file that would be fed directly to the video meaning that I would also have to work on timing the subs with video source (basically all the workflow regarding with subtitling work). But if the team that Cyrus is running would be willing to sync the subs themselves (which save A LOT of time to us translators) then I guess that the work would reduce greatly in effort (which is good since we could attract more users that way I guess).
The way that I see it working is that we would receive a word file with the phrases on it and them we would translate it to the appropriate language, a bit like this:

Original LanguageTranslated Language
Hi, welcome to the Bitcointalk YT channel!Insert Here
My name is _______ and I'll be your host tonight!Insert Here
Today we'll talk about our goals as a channelInsert Here

I think that this would be a good way of sending the information to whoever is timing the subs so that he/she knows which phrase goes where but I'm sure that someone will also chime their ideas into this. Either way, it's great knowing that I'm not the only one thinking this way. I'm really eager for Cyrus take on it (and, most importantly, the next video announcement which I believe will be his next thread update, fingers crossed!  Roll Eyes )

[1]https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/20210728_alphabet_10Q.pdf - Page 35
[2]https://statusbrew.com/insights/youtube-analytics/
[3]https://support.google.com/youtubecreatorstudio/answer/6323896
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I wonder how difficult it will be to get people involved?
If Cyrus approves it, we can try to get the attention of translators by posting in the following thread: Overview of trusted/recommended Translators

this does take some time (between timing the subs and making the correct translation)
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Again, the first couple of subtitles made will take the longest especially for people that never done it, but as the time goes by it will eventually be faster
Assuming that you were referring to the editing part, then all they have to do [AFAICS] is to forward those subtitles to the video editor [he'll be the one to adjust their timings], or did I miss something?
legendary
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What do you think Cyrus (and remaining community of course) of having a voluntary group within bitcointalk that would make subtitles for the videos?
It would certainly help the viewers who aren't proficient in English. I think it's a good idea to keep that as an option for later. Once the first 1 or 2 videos are aired, we will see how many views, comments, and subscribers there are. Based on that, we will get some stats of how the community responds to the work. If the reach is really bad, like 100 or less views within the first couple of weeks (which I am hoping won't be the case), creating subtitles for multiple languages might not make that much sense.   

What kind of stats are available to channel owners on YouTube? Can they, for example, see which countries the viewers come from? As a percentage or total count? If that is possible, Cyrus would have some info about which regions are mostly watching and he could focus on those languages first if your idea is approved. 
legendary
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The voting have been closed for some time and we are still expecting first video to be aired soon on the channel despite any disparities between YouTube deleting the comments.The community is still in support and that's essential so give us glimpse of the same soon man Cheesy.This wait and excitement is becoming normal routine for me.The channel subscribers are slowly pumping to reach 34 at this time.There are lot of crap in the YouTube junkyard and it will take some time for the people to find the gold in that.You know what i mean.So hope the video to be out on any day.

I have geared up for some promotion again so just give me a boost to start the engine.
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