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Topic: Bitmain Launches the New Antminer T9 Bitcoin Miner - page 15. (Read 38837 times)

legendary
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Bitcoin FTW!
Is this available in the hashnest market? If not, I hope it does not take too long to be there.
Last year, the s9 miners took so long to get into the hash market that I don't think it was worth buying it.
Who would buy this on hashnest anyways? Uses more power, longer roi, worse everything compared to the S9. I wouldn't even consider buying it if it went on Hashnest. Bitmain doesn't underclock so you're looking at a full speed, high power and high maintenance miner.
copper member
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

The "new" chips are 0.001J/GHs at least less efficient than the previous S9 chips.
Same chip running at a higher operating voltage, thus the reduced efficiency.

 Up side, it SHOULD allow better overclocking at more reliability *IF* you can keep the bloody things cool enough, as they're not pushing the "bottom end" of where the chip will run at all (which seems to be a lot of the issue with the S9).
Agreed. The power specs are rather on-par with the s9 batch-1 and 3 I have. Both use a high Vcore and are Hungry. At full rated clock of 650MHz the batch-1 tops out at just over 1400w after settling down from warmup (briefly >1500W). To keep temps down have that one clocked at 600 and it still averages over 13.5THs Cheesy

So the tip there is to either keep the temps low or undervolt the thing. Someone said on this thread earlier that the bitcoin miner only has one fan which I can definitely see would be a problem to anyone who wants to buy this miner (obviously I can't due to electricity costs).

Is this available in the hashnest market? If not, I hope it does not take too long to be there.
Last year, the s9 miners took so long to get into the hash market that I don't think it was worth buying it.

It's not going to come. In the same way like the R4, R1, U3 and other miners didn't come. It is a sort-of partial release of a miner that comes out after the miner is made (such as the S3+, S4+, S5+...)
So we will probably never see it even go near hashnest.
legendary
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Having owned various S9's from batch 1-23 I can tell you each evolution was an attempt to improve the design. I think this is also an attempt as with the recent batch of R4 machines to dispose of there lower quality chips from the production run. The easy solution to stabilize and poor quality chip is to give it more voltage. This draw more power which requires cutting the number of chips. I suspect this will be just a limited run while they hoard the best of the best last batch of 14TH machines which I had owned and was the best performing of them all. The added warranty is nice but considering this is an entire new design PCB i think it may also be prone to some premature failures while they might need to go through additional revisions of this board design to get it to the level of the last generation of S9's. This usually signals the end of a product line with them as I anticipate they are already in development of the next S11 based on 14nm Chips or a second round of 16nm chips with a more efficient design based on what they learned from the last asic
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!

The "new" chips are 0.001J/GHs at least less efficient than the previous S9 chips.
Same chip running at a higher operating voltage, thus the reduced efficiency.

 Up side, it SHOULD allow better overclocking at more reliability *IF* you can keep the bloody things cool enough, as they're not pushing the "bottom end" of where the chip will run at all (which seems to be a lot of the issue with the S9).
Agreed. The power specs are rather on-par with the s9 batch-1 and 3 I have. Both use a high Vcore and are Hungry. At full rated clock of 650MHz the batch-1 tops out at just over 1400w after settling down from warmup (briefly >1500W). To keep temps down have that one clocked at 600 and it still averages over 13.5THs Cheesy
sr. member
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Is this available in the hashnest market? If not, I hope it does not take too long to be there.
Last year, the s9 miners took so long to get into the hash market that I don't think it was worth buying it.
legendary
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Merit: 1030

The "new" chips are 0.001J/GHs at least less efficient than the previous S9 chips.


 Same chip running at a higher operating voltage, thus the reduced efficiency.

 Up side, it SHOULD allow better overclocking at more reliability *IF* you can keep the bloody things cool enough, as they're not pushing the "bottom end" of where the chip will run at all (which seems to be a lot of the issue with the S9).

legendary
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
Estimated Next Difficulty:   377,934,006,315 (+12.18%)


Just about the perfect time to buy this miner.

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legendary
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Estimated Next Difficulty:   377,934,006,315 (+12.18%)


Just about the perfect time to buy this miner.
copper member
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
Is anyone else getting this error when trying to check out?

 DirectPay generate bitcoin payment address error: null

I don't think they have been released for payment yet? As it said 2300 17th January (+0800 GMT).

Guys please don't be suckered in by this Bullsh*t

Stop letting htem get away with this

ALL this is, is bitmain getting rid of their poor run chips, that didn't meet 29 effeciency, they banked them and just put them together.

SAME reason why the batch hash rates varied, they put good/bad boards together in other packages based ont he avg hash rate.

This is another way for them to pass on shit chips that didn't meet specs, and make you pay for them

30-40% more power??? Come on!

You may be right about this strategy (in fact I think 90% you're on point), but I wouldn't blame a company for selling something people want. If people buy it they buy it and it's good business.

I too wish there was more competition. Personally I think as we approach Moore's law this will allow more competition to hit the market and also reliability of machines should improve as it will become more of a factor.

He is right about this. The "new" chips are 0.001J/GHs at least less efficient than the previous S9 chips. Meaning that it is much more costly to run. I don't know why anyone would even consider buying one of these (hopefully the S11s will be better if/when they are released).
donator
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Is anyone else getting this error when trying to check out?

 DirectPay generate bitcoin payment address error: null
member
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full member
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Guys please don't be suckered in by this Bullsh*t

Stop letting htem get away with this

ALL this is, is bitmain getting rid of their poor run chips, that didn't meet 29 effeciency, they banked them and just put them together.

SAME reason why the batch hash rates varied, they put good/bad boards together in other packages based ont he avg hash rate.

This is another way for them to pass on shit chips that didn't meet specs, and make you pay for them

30-40% more power??? Come on!

You may be right about this strategy (in fact I think 90% you're on point), but I wouldn't blame a company for selling something people want. If people buy it they buy it and it's good business.

I too wish there was more competition. Personally I think as we approach Moore's law this will allow more competition to hit the market and also reliability of machines should improve as it will become more of a factor.
sr. member
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Less efficient but a cheaper MSRP than the S9. Not sure if the trade off is worth it, but it's what Bitmain has given us!
member
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Seem to only offer FedEx or DHL shipping.  I have bad luck with both.  Need UPS please!
full member
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Merit: 100
I can't order, the add-to-cart link is not working. Is it sold out already?

Yes, although at times you can keep checking through the day as people don't fulfill their BTC transfers, I've seen them open it back up for sale.
newbie
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I can't order, the add-to-cart link is not working. Is it sold out already?
hero member
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Merit: 624
Maintain Social Distance, Stay safe.
Same as other s9..
I hope that they  can release a good antminer that can run with low power consumption..
Or the speed is better with same consumption they are just releasing new but little bit similar.. of batch 22 of antminer s9.
hero member
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Merit: 517
If higher Voltage makes then run better. Why are we not seeing firmware to up volt the  R4 and S9?Huh

In the case of the S9 it would mean you could only run it on 220v because the power draw would be too much for a typical 120v circuit... that is just a guess given the T9 is 1450w.
hero member
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If higher Voltage makes then run better. Why are we not seeing firmware to up volt the  R4 and S9?Huh
newbie
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Less efficient? Dunno why they're even trying now. Don't see many people buying one, at least the S7LN had a few buyers. If they did something like the LN with the S9 I'd buy it but just looks like the one fan variant of the S7 they did a while back.

Assuming they needed to use low quality ASIC's somehow. Easy to overvolt and this is their answer. Are they using them in their new data mining centre? doubt it, unless they are for investors sections of the mining center.  
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