Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 - page 78. (Read 299686 times)
November 09, 2017, 03:16:38 AM
No need to buy anything from these scammers, if they take money 3 months in advance and selling units uncontrolled in numbers, this means they are scammers from now on.
November 09, 2017, 02:10:39 AM
Yes, X11 is a composite of 11 algos, but the hardware is designed to give you the result after running through all those algos. You can't just tell the hardware to stop in the middle of computing and give you the results for a specific algo. ASIC's usually are optimized and made very efficient at doing 1 specific function, in this case x11. To add or do only a specific algo requires not only a firmware change, but now also a hardware change.
No hardware change is necessary if you already have the cores that hash a specific algo, and have the required devices for additional compute. X11 is a chained mining algo that uses multiple rounds of each of its algos to deliver it's final hash result. At the base of all the hashing are the dedicated full custom cores that compute each algorithm. The controller w/ the cgminer implementation is responsible for how the work is done. At the end you have the controller that runs the X11 cgminer implementation that uses pretty much all the cores on the ASIC. What Bitmain needs to release is a custom cgminer implementation that isolates each of the core regions (each region of cores does a specific hash function), and allows mining ONLY for the specific hash function. You'll basically be using a fraction of the ASIC's hashcores and power usage will even be less.
If Bitmain cared for community involvement in improving their software, all of their custom firmware would be open-sourced. They would release the data sheets and schematics for their mining devices. I'm sure they have some of the best developers in the industry working for them. And I'm probably the shittiest coder around so I wouldn't be suited to the task anyhow
Are you saying each d3 chip has 11 cores?
No, each D3 chip probably has hundreds of hash cores. Maybe thousands. They are divided into groups, each group performs a specific hash function. For example, you might have 300 cores doing Keccak (SHA-3) that can achieve 20GH, but 700 doing Groestl to achieve that same speed as it is more intensive. During the design process there is significant work done to balance out the number of cores used on each algorithm so you don't have wasted cores doing excess hashrate on a single algorithm. It's balanced such that each group of hash cores can deliver the same hashrate (eg; 20GH). If you have 10 algorithms doing 30 GH but one algorithm doing 5GH, the end result would be a 4-5GH miner as the performance is "bottlenecked" by the lowest performing algorithm.
November 09, 2017, 01:15:40 AM
So not only they send us toasters, they send us toasters we can't even use because of no PSU's. Oh boy, what a scam it is by Bitmain flooding the market with D3's. Well, it was a risk but fool me once, shame on me and so on..
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
I laugh to keep from crying. lol but man that was a good one buddy!
Yep ..you can add my pile to your pile and everyone adds to the pile..that will be a lot of sh*t.....
as best I can tell there are still what 4 batches of bitmain D3's out
a huge batch of A5 x11 miners 30gh each..figure that is worth a couple batches of D3's
we are so full of sh*t.....er beyond screwed
might be better just to leave the one I'm getting in the box...it looks to be a space heater in 6 weeks at best anyway
November 09, 2017, 12:25:43 AM
Yes, X11 is a composite of 11 algos, but the hardware is designed to give you the result after running through all those algos. You can't just tell the hardware to stop in the middle of computing and give you the results for a specific algo. ASIC's usually are optimized and made very efficient at doing 1 specific function, in this case x11. To add or do only a specific algo requires not only a firmware change, but now also a hardware change.
No hardware change is necessary if you already have the cores that hash a specific algo, and have the required devices for additional compute. X11 is a chained mining algo that uses multiple rounds of each of its algos to deliver it's final hash result. At the base of all the hashing are the dedicated full custom cores that compute each algorithm. The controller w/ the cgminer implementation is responsible for how the work is done. At the end you have the controller that runs the X11 cgminer implementation that uses pretty much all the cores on the ASIC. What Bitmain needs to release is a custom cgminer implementation that isolates each of the core regions (each region of cores does a specific hash function), and allows mining ONLY for the specific hash function. You'll basically be using a fraction of the ASIC's hashcores and power usage will even be less.
If Bitmain cared for community involvement in improving their software, all of their custom firmware would be open-sourced. They would release the data sheets and schematics for their mining devices. I'm sure they have some of the best developers in the industry working for them. And I'm probably the shittiest coder around so I wouldn't be suited to the task anyhow
Are you saying each d3 chip has 11 cores?
November 08, 2017, 11:53:47 PM
Yes, X11 is a composite of 11 algos, but the hardware is designed to give you the result after running through all those algos. You can't just tell the hardware to stop in the middle of computing and give you the results for a specific algo. ASIC's usually are optimized and made very efficient at doing 1 specific function, in this case x11. To add or do only a specific algo requires not only a firmware change, but now also a hardware change.
No hardware change is necessary if you already have the cores that hash a specific algo, and have the required devices for additional compute. X11 is a chained mining algo that uses multiple rounds of each of its algos to deliver it's final hash result. At the base of all the hashing are the dedicated full custom cores that compute each algorithm. The controller w/ the cgminer implementation is responsible for how the work is done. At the end you have the controller that runs the X11 cgminer implementation that uses pretty much all the cores on the ASIC. What Bitmain needs to release is a custom cgminer implementation that isolates each of the core regions (each region of cores does a specific hash function), and allows mining ONLY for the specific hash function. You'll basically be using a fraction of the ASIC's hashcores and power usage will even be less.
If Bitmain cared for community involvement in improving their software, all of their custom firmware would be open-sourced. They would release the data sheets and schematics for their mining devices. I'm sure they have some of the best developers in the industry working for them. And I'm probably the shittiest coder around so I wouldn't be suited to the task anyhow
November 08, 2017, 11:51:46 PM
Batch 21st-30th - on the way...
They can't wait to get those popcorn machines out the door!! LOLso more network hash and more Difficulty. Winter is comming. Not a bad idea to use as a expensive room heater
and free noise as you feel you are inside of a mining firm. 
November 08, 2017, 11:13:39 PM
If you're right, then you're the ONLY person that knows this. If that is in fact the case, I'm sure you could get a group funding for your trip to China to help the Bitmain crew out with this. Bon Voyage.
lol
M
November 08, 2017, 11:00:26 PM
Yes, X11 is a composite of 11 algos, but the hardware is designed to give you the result after running through all those algos. You can't just tell the hardware to stop in the middle of computing and give you the results for a specific algo. ASIC's usually are optimized and made very efficient at doing 1 specific function, in this case x11. To add or do only a specific algo requires not only a firmware change, but now also a hardware change.
No hardware change is necessary if you already have the cores that hash a specific algo, and have the required devices for additional compute. X11 is a chained mining algo that uses multiple rounds of each of its algos to deliver it's final hash result. At the base of all the hashing are the dedicated full custom cores that compute each algorithm. The controller w/ the cgminer implementation is responsible for how the work is done. At the end you have the controller that runs the X11 cgminer implementation that uses pretty much all the cores on the ASIC. What Bitmain needs to release is a custom cgminer implementation that isolates each of the core regions (each region of cores does a specific hash function), and allows mining ONLY for the specific hash function. You'll basically be using a fraction of the ASIC's hashcores and power usage will even be less.
November 08, 2017, 09:58:52 PM
at least dash is worth 320 dollars now few days ago it was like 275 dollars lol. Hopefully it goes up to 350+ in the next few days
November 08, 2017, 09:48:45 PM
Yes, X11 is a composite of 11 algos, but the hardware is designed to give you the result after running through all those algos. You can't just tell the hardware to stop in the middle of computing and give you the results for a specific algo. ASIC's usually are optimized and made very efficient at doing 1 specific function, in this case x11. To add or do only a specific algo requires not only a firmware change, but now also a hardware change.
No hardware change is necessary if you already have the cores that hash a specific algo, and have the required devices for additional compute. X11 is a chained mining algo that uses multiple rounds of each of its algos to deliver it's final hash result. At the base of all the hashing are the dedicated full custom cores that compute each algorithm. The controller w/ the cgminer implementation is responsible for how the work is done. At the end you have the controller that runs the X11 cgminer implementation that uses pretty much all the cores on the ASIC. What Bitmain needs to release is a custom cgminer implementation that isolates each of the core regions (each region of cores does a specific hash function), and allows mining ONLY for the specific hash function. You'll basically be using a fraction of the ASIC's hashcores and power usage will even be less.
November 08, 2017, 09:26:56 PM
Yes, X11 is a composite of 11 algos, but the hardware is designed to give you the result after running through all those algos. You can't just tell the hardware to stop in the middle of computing and give you the results for a specific algo. ASIC's usually are optimized and made very efficient at doing 1 specific function, in this case x11. To add or do only a specific algo requires not only a firmware change, but now also a hardware change.
November 08, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
So not only they send us toasters, they send us toasters we can't even use because of no PSU's. Oh boy, what a scam it is by Bitmain flooding the market with D3's. Well, it was a risk but fool me once, shame on me and so on..
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
I laugh to keep from crying. lol but man that was a good one buddy!
Ahahahaha that was a good one
Profitability really has gone down to the gutter. Only hopes are for Bitmain to release multi-algo firmware.The only person that needs telling is yourself. Do you know what X11 is? It is a composite of 11 hash functions- blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein, luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, and echo.
The ASIC has a certain amount of cores allotted to each hash function. All Bitmain needs to do release firmware/modified cgminer that allows the isolated hash functions to be used. Considering how they like to squeeze their competitors (cough cough Baikal) out of the industry, it really wouldn't be a surprising if a firmware upgrade allowing multi algo mining was released.
November 08, 2017, 08:40:10 PM
So not only they send us toasters, they send us toasters we can't even use because of no PSU's. Oh boy, what a scam it is by Bitmain flooding the market with D3's. Well, it was a risk but fool me once, shame on me and so on..
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
I laugh to keep from crying. lol but man that was a good one buddy!
Ahahahaha that was a good one
Profitability really has gone down to the gutter. Only hopes are for Bitmain to release multi-algo firmware. November 08, 2017, 08:35:14 PM
So not only they send us toasters, they send us toasters we can't even use because of no PSU's. Oh boy, what a scam it is by Bitmain flooding the market with D3's. Well, it was a risk but fool me once, shame on me and so on..
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
I laugh to keep from crying. lol but man that was a good one buddy!
Ahahahaha that was a good one
Profitability really has gone down to the gutter. Only hopes are for Bitmain to release multi-algo firmware. November 08, 2017, 08:35:05 PM
once these things are setup, is there much maintenance needed?
If you let them run at 537 frequency, you will likely see high chip temperature and a LOT of HW errors that will eventually crash a hashing board. You'll know this by a row of xxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx in your ASIC status. Then you'll have to reset the machine to get that board back online. To me this is the server telling you that 537 frequency is at the edge of redline and if we run them there for extended times, they will not last long.I have had excellent luck down clocking these units to 525 frequency ( or lower if it's hot out ) and running fans at 100%. There, they get very stable. No HW errors and no boards crashing. You'll still be hashing around high 17's or low 18 thousand mh. Once you fool with it and find the "sweet spot of clock speed and fan speed for your environment, they require zero to no maintenance. Just clean the heat sinks every month or so unless you have a high level air filtration system.
November 08, 2017, 08:21:43 PM
So not only they send us toasters, they send us toasters we can't even use because of no PSU's. Oh boy, what a scam it is by Bitmain flooding the market with D3's. Well, it was a risk but fool me once, shame on me and so on..
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
I laugh to keep from crying. lol but man that was a good one buddy!
November 08, 2017, 07:45:51 PM
thanks for the tips on which pool to join. so there are lots of different calculators with misinformation. anyone know which one is right?
I wouldn't necessarily say they have misinformation. I would say they all estimate differently.
If you have multiple miners, you can always point them individually at different pools simultaneously and compare the results.
M
Which pool do you recommend? It's so odd that some calculators show -$10/month for me, and some show $150/profit month.
Try mining-dutch.nl Multi profit switching pool pays in coin of your choice
November 08, 2017, 07:33:49 PM
So not only they send us toasters, they send us toasters we can't even use because of no PSU's. Oh boy, what a scam it is by Bitmain flooding the market with D3's. Well, it was a risk but fool me once, shame on me and so on..
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
Waiting for my two pieces of shit to arrive by the end of the month.
November 08, 2017, 06:37:14 PM
Batch 21st-30th - on the way...
They can't wait to get those popcorn machines out the door!! LOLMine still showing unshipped.
November 08, 2017, 06:30:13 PM
Just got confirmation of shipping for 21-30 batch but not on all orders 
Seems like power supplies aren't included, invoice shows 25 KG but Tracking just 15 KG
Seems like power supplies aren't included, invoice shows 25 KG but Tracking just 15 KG
Chips. Your right. Same for me. Bet i have to pay dubble tax over psu, because Bitmain did not put right shipping bill on it.
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