Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 256.

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Quote from: tmfp on August 22, 2016, 06:28:06 AM

Whoa slow down.
FACT: every visit I have made to India (many), I have used AC in hotels, offices, shops, beach bars etc.
India has an AC grid BUT there is a perfectly legit way of receiving DC to your home there but yes, it will be off grid supply unless inverted (like a caravan)

Lighten up guys.

everywhere you visited comes under industrial sector, hotels bars, offices , shops all come under industrial not residential.

which digitalbitcoin(bitcointalk member) says is dc supply rofl

why are you confusing guys

someone says its ac and someone says its dc lol

lol, no, they're commercial, not industrial.

This is industrial

This is commercial Wink

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I don't know a well knowledged friend told me it was dc next time i pay the electricity bills i will ask the board .

Yeah sometimes i take the card and go to pay in the office .

well Digitalbitcoin (bitcointalkmember)

told it was ac for homes and dc for industry.

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Quote from: tharani on August 22, 2016, 06:04:14 AM

Brits installed it 67 years ago or maybe even before 80 years

it's been more than 69 years after we got independence and have our own democracy and gov

now its dc

its not a new fact it has been the system for years' apparently you don't try to get to know facts about other countries cause you don't need it as a necessity.

Mostly people here would be from the us , uk and the europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_India

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Quote from: tharani on August 22, 2016, 06:04:14 AM

Brits installed it 67 years ago or maybe even before 80 years

it's been more than 69 years after we got independence and have our own democracy and gov

now its dc

its not a new fact it has been the system for years' apparently you don't try to get to know facts about other countries cause you don't need it as a necessity.

Mostly people here would be from the us , uk and the europe

Whoa slow down.
FACT: every visit I have made to India (many), I have used AC in hotels, offices, shops, beach bars etc.
India has an AC grid BUT there is a perfectly legit way of receiving DC to your home there but yes, it will be off grid supply unless inverted (like a caravan)

Lighten up guys.

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Quote from: tharani on August 22, 2016, 06:04:14 AM

now its dc

I really don't understand why you are saying that. I have lived & worked in India & still visit frequently, I know for a fact that it uses 240V AC - also, every internet search will confirm this. Also, DC does not travel well over distance, India is vast, which is why 240V AC is used. Any household in India that is using DC is not being supplied by the grid.

The caraven thing was a joke, as it was the first thing that came to mind that uses DC. No offense was intended.

Sources:

https://www.quantumbalancing.com/worldelectricity/electricityif.htm

http://www.adaptelec.com/index.php?main_page=document_general_info&products_id=320

http://www.indiaquickfacts.com/content/india-electricity-electrical-plugs-converters-electric-sockets-electric-adapters

& even Wikipedia got it right.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity_by_country

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Quote from: IconFirm on August 22, 2016, 04:27:06 AM

Quote from: tmfp on August 22, 2016, 04:19:05 AM

Quote from: tharani on August 22, 2016, 03:56:10 AM

It might not mean something but volts is what we pay the electricity bill for

kwatts gets converted to volts in meter reading.

the normal current supply to homes is ac

the current pay would be 13440 dollars for a month

Wut? Where on earth is that?

Caravan site? Cheesy

A normal residential household consumption will have ac supply in india

(all calculations above are for dc as per the psu you are using values may differ for ac)

i don't think a single caravan would charge 440 volts for 2 months Cheesy

lol

Also a even a bunch of caravans won't have huge consumption even if they had air conditioner and some electrical appliances.

It's funny that you think it is a caravan site .

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Quote from: IconFirm on August 22, 2016, 05:50:49 AM

Quote from: tmfp on August 22, 2016, 04:58:25 AM

Quote from: IconFirm on August 22, 2016, 04:27:06 AM

Quote from: tmfp on August 22, 2016, 04:19:05 AM

Quote from: tharani on August 22, 2016, 03:56:10 AM

It might not mean something but volts is what we pay the electricity bill for

kwatts gets converted to volts in meter reading.

the normal current supply to homes is dc

the current pay would be 13440 dollars for a month

Wut? Where on earth is that?

Caravan site? Cheesy

Apparently the answer is India.
You learn something every day......

India is 240V AC same as the Brits who first installed it there......

now its ac ( depends upon what psu you are using for the miner )

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Quote from: tmfp on August 22, 2016, 06:00:27 AM

Quote from: IconFirm on August 22, 2016, 05:50:49 AM

India is 240V same as the Brits who first installed it there......

Yes, that's my experience, but a search of the infallible Google reveals that dc supply is available, also it's where the poster tharani comes from.

What do you mean by poster. Huh

?

omg i get it you mean one who posts on bitcoin talk forum is a poster .

lol

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Quote from: tmfp on August 22, 2016, 04:19:05 AM

Quote from: tharani on August 22, 2016, 03:56:10 AM

It might not mean something but volts is what we pay the electricity bill for

kwatts gets converted to volts in meter reading.

the normal current supply to homes is ac

the current pay would be 13440 dollars for a month

Wut? Where on earth is that?

Normal supply is ac (depends on what psu you are using)

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Quote from: IconFirm on August 22, 2016, 05:50:49 AM

India is 240V same as the Brits who first installed it there......

Yes, that's my experience, but a search of the infallible Google reveals that dc supply is available, also it's where the poster tharani comes from.

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Quote from: tmfp on August 22, 2016, 04:58:25 AM

Quote from: IconFirm on August 22, 2016, 04:27:06 AM

Quote from: tmfp on August 22, 2016, 04:19:05 AM

Quote from: tharani on August 22, 2016, 03:56:10 AM

It might not mean something but volts is what we pay the electricity bill for

kwatts gets converted to volts in meter reading.

the normal current supply to homes is dc

the current pay would be 13440 dollars for a month

Wut? Where on earth is that?

Caravan site? Cheesy

Apparently the answer is India.
You learn something every day......

India is 240V AC same as the Brits who first installed it there......

tmfp

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Quote from: IconFirm on August 22, 2016, 04:27:06 AM

Quote from: tmfp on August 22, 2016, 04:19:05 AM

Quote from: tharani on August 22, 2016, 03:56:10 AM

It might not mean something but volts is what we pay the electricity bill for

kwatts gets converted to volts in meter reading.

the normal current supply to homes is dc

the current pay would be 13440 dollars for a month

Wut? Where on earth is that?

Caravan site? Cheesy

Apparently the answer is India.
You learn something every day......

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Quote from: tmfp on August 22, 2016, 04:19:05 AM

Quote from: tharani on August 22, 2016, 03:56:10 AM

It might not mean something but volts is what we pay the electricity bill for

kwatts gets converted to volts in meter reading.

the normal current supply to homes is dc

the current pay would be 13440 dollars for a month

Wut? Where on earth is that?

Caravan site? Cheesy

tmfp

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Quote from: tharani on August 22, 2016, 03:56:10 AM

It might not mean something but volts is what we pay the electricity bill for

kwatts gets converted to volts in meter reading.

the normal current supply to homes is dc

the current pay would be 13440 dollars for a month

Wut? Where on earth is that?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 21, 2016, 08:10:51 AM

Quote from: tharani on August 21, 2016, 07:14:58 AM

Guy's i was considering buying the s9

I just want to know its daily power consumption in volts.

so that i can calculate the current costs for it.

Also it would be good to know how much would it be able to produce in a day , thanks !!!

volts means nothing

watts is what you want

about 1400 watts per hour that is 1.4 kwatts

which is 33.6 kwatts a day
or 1008 kwatts a month

It might not mean something but volts is what we pay the electricity bill for

kwatts gets converted to volts in meter reading.

also we need the amps of the current which is connected and the normal current supply to homes is ac depends on what psu you are using

(all calculations below are for dc as per the psu you are using values may differ for ac)

lets say s9 has 5 amps

it will consume 201600 volts

450 volts is 15 dollars at current rate.

the current pay would be 13440 dollars for a month

on calculation for 5 amps .

http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/electric/kw-to-volt-calculator.htm

the value will differ from country to country

this is just a example calculation

in my country the voltage consumed is taken into consideration .

maybe it is nothing to you but for this country it means thousands of dollars income to the gov .

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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 21, 2016, 05:32:11 PM

Quote from: not.you on August 21, 2016, 05:21:02 PM

I would rather they simply honored the warranty. If it breaks in the first 90 days it gets replaced without a lot of rigamarole on their part. Buying a miner and getting a 10% coupon on the next is worthless if the miner I bought only performs to 66% of spec. There are a lot of tech companies that provide excellent and reliable warranties. Bitmain could be one if they wanted to.

Yeah but the shipping back to China at high cost is a killer along with no cross shipping.

It is not like an Intel CPU which ships at low cost. BTW When I killed my Intel i5 6600k I had two options cross ship at an extra cost of 25 usd or send it in and wait . I went the cheap way and had a new CPU in 8 days. If I cross shipped for 25 extra I could wait to ship the dead one back and would of had it in 2 days. I did not need it that fast so I saved the 25 extra cost.

I actually do not hate bitmaintech but they are a bit short on service if gear breaks down. They need to adapt on this.

Some reasons:

1) they are helping gpu miners with their short warranty
2) break even on asic gear is not 60 to 120 days. So the 90 day warranty means your gear is almost certain to not roi under warranty this helps gpu mining
3) they are pretty well known for not honoring warranty this helps gpu mining

Basically here is my Eth setup and I convert most coins to btc. Bitmaintech has created demand for gpu mining. Mostly over their warranty issues.
18 cards two 4 card rigs and five 2 card rigs. Every piece has at least 1 year warranty or more. Most have a 2 year warranty.

https://i.imgur.com/R72hWho.png

phil, what are you doing?

releasing the secret of how to get the same amount of btc with 2.5-3 times less watts and a real warranty?

It is an open secret. Grin

Bitmaintech is king of ASIC world

And they need to watch for gpu world more then anything else.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 21, 2016, 05:32:11 PM

Quote from: not.you on August 21, 2016, 05:21:02 PM

I would rather they simply honored the warranty. If it breaks in the first 90 days it gets replaced without a lot of rigamarole on their part. Buying a miner and getting a 10% coupon on the next is worthless if the miner I bought only performs to 66% of spec. There are a lot of tech companies that provide excellent and reliable warranties. Bitmain could be one if they wanted to.

Yeah but the shipping back to China at high cost is a killer along with no cross shipping.

It is not like an Intel CPU which ships at low cost. BTW When I killed my Intel i5 6600k I had two options cross ship at an extra cost of 25 usd or send it in and wait . I went the cheap way and had a new CPU in 8 days. If I cross shipped for 25 extra I could wait to ship the dead one back and would of had it in 2 days. I did not need it that fast so I saved the 25 extra cost.

I actually do not hate bitmaintech but they are a bit short on service if gear breaks down. They need to adapt on this.

Some reasons:

1) they are helping gpu miners with their short warranty
2) break even on asic gear is not 60 to 120 days. So the 90 day warranty means your gear is almost certain to not roi under warranty this helps gpu mining
3) they are pretty well known for not honoring warranty this helps gpu mining

Basically here is my Eth setup and I convert most coins to btc. Bitmaintech has created demand for gpu mining. Mostly over their warranty issues.
18 cards two 4 card rigs and five 2 card rigs. Every piece has at least 1 year warranty or more. Most have a 2 year warranty.

https://i.imgur.com/R72hWho.png

phil, what are you doing?

releasing the "secret" of how to get the same amount of btc with 2.5-3 times less watts and a real warranty?

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Quote from: not.you on August 21, 2016, 05:21:02 PM

I would rather they simply honored the warranty. If it breaks in the first 90 days it gets replaced without a lot of rigamarole on their part. Buying a miner and getting a 10% coupon on the next is worthless if the miner I bought only performs to 66% of spec. There are a lot of tech companies that provide excellent and reliable warranties. Bitmain could be one if they wanted to.

Yeah but the shipping back to China at high cost is a killer along with no cross shipping.

It is not like an Intel CPU which ships at low cost. BTW When I killed my Intel i5 6600k I had two options cross ship at an extra cost of 25 usd or send it in and wait . I went the cheap way and had a new CPU in 8 days. If I cross shipped for 25 extra I could wait to ship the dead one back and would of had it in 2 days. I did not need it that fast so I saved the 25 extra cost.

I actually do not hate bitmaintech but they are a bit short on service if gear breaks down. They need to adapt on this.

Some reasons:

1) they are helping gpu miners with their short warranty
2) break even on asic gear is not 60 to 120 days. So the 90 day warranty means your gear is almost certain to not roi under warranty this helps gpu mining
3) they are pretty well known for not honoring warranty this helps gpu mining

Basically here is my Eth setup and I convert most coins to btc. Bitmaintech has created demand for gpu mining. Mostly over their warranty issues.
18 cards two 4 card rigs and five 2 card rigs. Every piece has at least 1 year warranty or more. Most have a 2 year warranty.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 21, 2016, 05:16:28 PM

I have been contacted by Yoshi of Bitmain warranty.

I will need to pull board take photos and send to Colorado. Better then spending 110-149 to ship to China.

I will drive to the solar array on monday and pull boards. I will continue to post how it is handled. Include Emails with redacted info I.E. my personal info. I go back to older times in BTC when BFL and real asic ripoffs were all over the place. So I actually want Bitmaintech to figure a better warranty method. Including the idea I posted above. I.E. a discount for no warranty Since shipping a piece of gear and spending 110-150 to be told no warranty is bad for business.

I salute you for your efforts and I get it that you want it to be better for everyone.
Hopefully, it would not be a one-off deal, but something that will change their understanding of the situation.
People cannot continue to buy miners that brake even in a year while warranty is so inadequate.
That said, no warranty at all is just a recipe for potential abuse. They need to make it 1 year.

not.you

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I would rather they simply honored the warranty. If it breaks in the first 90 days it gets replaced without a lot of rigamarole on their part. Buying a miner and getting a 10% coupon on the next is worthless if the miner I bought only performs to 66% of spec. There are a lot of tech companies that provide excellent and reliable warranties. Bitmain could be one if they wanted to.

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