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Quote from: virasog on March 08, 2022, 11:55:29 PM

Same is our stance on everything in life including gambling. We do whatever we like but we do not want our children to do the same things. If parents didn't gamble in the first place, there are fewer chances of their children doing the same.

Damn true, that is why as much as possible we show to them good sides and not the bad ones. This starts when they are little kids, they save memories and what comes to their mind at that age will be remembered for a lifetime. If your children sees you as a gambler, possibility is, they would also be gamblers in the future, so teach them not to be at the young age and the chances would be minimum. I know someone, a hard gambler and his parents are not. So another factor is the community where you raise your children, they could get the habit of gambling with friends and other people they mingle with. Really better to try being a strict parent and see what they up into.

All matters on how you do guide them but showing them on what you are or on what you are doing is typically a strong influence which would really be result in most likely they would be following your same path.

Only a few would really able to realize up things that they should not do on what their parents are doing.It is a matter of realization and its better to make them realize when they are just still
young and its true that those things would really remain into their minds forever and wouldnt really be able to forget it.

Parents can play a vital role in a child's environment. It might also be a good idea to discuss something like this. Sooner or later a child will come into contact with gambling, it does not always have to be online. It can also start in a real land-based casino. But I think it's easier on that. The environment is also determined by a group of friends. If there are a number of friends among them who gamble, then you have to be strong.

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Quote from: kaya11 on March 10, 2022, 06:04:05 PM

Quote from: virasog on March 08, 2022, 11:55:29 PM

Same is our stance on everything in life including gambling. We do whatever we like but we do not want our children to do the same things. If parents didn't gamble in the first place, there are fewer chances of their children doing the same.

Damn true, that is why as much as possible we show to them good sides and not the bad ones. This starts when they are little kids, they save memories and what comes to their mind at that age will be remembered for a lifetime. If your children sees you as a gambler, possibility is, they would also be gamblers in the future, so teach them not to be at the young age and the chances would be minimum. I know someone, a hard gambler and his parents are not. So another factor is the community where you raise your children, they could get the habit of gambling with friends and other people they mingle with. Really better to try being a strict parent and see what they up into.

All matters on how you do guide them but showing them on what you are or on what you are doing is typically a strong influence which would really be result in most likely they would be following your same path.

Only a few would really able to realize up things that they should not do on what their parents are doing.It is a matter of realization and its better to make them realize when they are just still
young and its true that those things would really remain into their minds forever and wouldnt really be able to forget it.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 09:07:37 PM

I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

You know some kids are really good at hiding their habits, they know their parents see them as innocent and play pretence to still be innocent even when they are now far from it. So we can't completely push blame the way of the parents. They failed in their role to be observant and keep close tabs on their child, but many others as well including the individual that took his life deserve equal portions of the the blame.

Quote from: kaya11 on March 10, 2022, 06:04:05 PM

If your children sees you as a gambler, possibility is, they would also be gamblers in the future, so teach them not to be at the young age...

You can't be a gambler and just be teaching your child not to gamble. How is the child suppose to take you seriously if you don't give them critical reasons why it may not be safe for them. Children need reasons these days as they are far too exposed to just tell them not to gamble and they follow you blindly like before. l hope you understand.

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Quote from: virasog on March 08, 2022, 11:55:29 PM

Same is our stance on everything in life including gambling. We do whatever we like but we do not want our children to do the same things. If parents didn't gamble in the first place, there are fewer chances of their children doing the same.

Damn true, that is why as much as possible we show to them good sides and not the bad ones. This starts when they are little kids, they save memories and what comes to their mind at that age will be remembered for a lifetime. If your children sees you as a gambler, possibility is, they would also be gamblers in the future, so teach them not to be at the young age and the chances would be minimum. I know someone, a hard gambler and his parents are not. So another factor is the community where you raise your children, they could get the habit of gambling with friends and other people they mingle with. Really better to try being a strict parent and see what they up into.

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Quote from: usekevin on March 10, 2022, 03:20:52 PM

Gambling ia not a bad game.Untill you get addicted.When the addiction happened, you will get involve of all the money you having.Even you will inverse the money in gambling by borrowing from your friends.The only avoidable one is you should keep control of your mind after huge loss.Incase you can't handle such things, it's better to quit gambling. When the use of his parents card, they have to find this and stop at the beginning.Everything with beginning was a easy then at end.

Gambling is for entertainment and it is just people who do really give out bad impressions to it due to mistakes that they have done due to overspending or totally lost big time.

Parental guidance is crucial yet you are the ones who would really guide out your children on not to engage with gambling in the first place since you do know the possible risk of addiction.
Not only talking about financial aspect but also in emotional and psychological effects into your children which we dont like for it to happen.

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Gambling ia not a bad game.Untill you get addicted.When the addiction happened, you will get involve of all the money you having.Even you will inverse the money in gambling by borrowing from your friends.The only avoidable one is you should keep control of your mind after huge loss.Incase you can't handle such things, it's better to quit gambling. When the use of his parents card, they have to find this and stop at the beginning.Everything with beginning was a easy then at end.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 10, 2022, 12:50:39 PM

It's what most irresponsible people do. If they cannot control something, they would blame the next person they see that can be held accountable for thinga they can't control. Parental guidance is extremely important until their kids reach their teenage years. They should still guide and keep an eye out on their children even if they have already grown, and there's no excuse that should be acceptable for negligence on their children.

I feel sorry for their loss, but I think they need a mirror to see that they're also at fault.

They should know what responsible gambling is before they have a problem with gambling. There is no point in blaming the other party especially when they start to realize the true problems that gambling can cause because if they understand the rules then there is no point in babbling.

Casinos are a medium and parents should be aware of any potential that can get their kids addicted so they should guide them properly if they don't want their child to be a gambler. This is their responsibility and they have the right to teach something true.

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It's what most irresponsible people do. If they cannot control something, they would blame the next person they see that can be held accountable for thinga they can't control. Parental guidance is extremely important until their kids reach their teenage years. They should still guide and keep an eye out on their children even if they have already grown, and there's no excuse that should be acceptable for negligence on their children.

I feel sorry for their loss, but I think they need a mirror to see that they're also at fault.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 09:07:37 PM

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Unfortunately, this type and kind of behaviour is common for people who recently lost their loved one due to something that they associate with. For example, if a drug addict unexpectedly dies, the rational behavior and thought is to consider that the latter died from drug addiction or substance abuse. But this is where it gets tricky- what if such person has an ongoing medical disease which is unknown to the parents?

Again, while I significantly emphatize with the parents, you cannot just blatantly expect and blame on gambling. There has to be some sort of explanation on why the son died which may be outside gambling.

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Quote from: safari88 on March 10, 2022, 08:35:18 AM

I understand why almost all of the users replied that parental negligence is a major factor why this has happened, and I would also agree on that. Regardless of the busy schedule, distance, the age of the children, your siblings and basically anyone in the family, parents and other family members must check on one another from time to time. A simple how are you could make a difference, and even more advices that would leave an impact on them to have realizations on the things that they are currently doing. Depression is proven to be diagnosed, but it is not something that can be just easily determined, thus its cure would be a collaborative effort of the experts and the patients themselves.

You got it right there, somehow I feel like you're a parent now, aren't you? Well, that doesn't matter some are good at advicing when they aren't on that position (pun intended). Not a parent yet but I totally agree that's still on the parents to blame even the case isn't directly pointing at them. I've seen how we grow being disciplined over things and I just realized right now how lucky I've been grounded when I did wrong.

Can't say for sure about depression but it's really dangerous as a cancer, if the case from the OP was pointing at depression then the blame was still at the parents. I just can't help but think how they regret this tragic event to bury their own child, though that wouldn't change at all for them but to those who are still gonna save another child with the same scenario. This should be an eye opener to anyone especially if they're a parent, I am reminding myself as a future parent.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 10, 2022, 02:46:48 AM

People now are aware of the technology and the internet so most of their parents now are leaving their children at an early age within their gadgets and by that, they can self-aware about the things on the internet such as gambling, the role of the parents must restrict their children and guide them because sometimes they don't know what's really doing of their child imagine at a very young age get addicted to the online gambling it's not suitable at the very young age. Better to help their child than blame each other because its about the mental health of the child.

What you are talking about is certainly correct.
However, life is not so easy to do. The problem here is, firstly, that children learn the Internet and all the possibilities of using it very early. And adults are often less versed in this matter. And secondly, a child over the age of 13-14 generally stops obeying his parents and all adults. Anyone who has raised children to adulthood knows how nasty and uncontrollable they become. So it's hard to forbid them not to play online gambling.
This is a rather difficult problem for all parents in the world.

Like he said people now are aware of the technology, it was different from our time (adults now) when our parents have no idea about it. We learn how to use the internet all by ourselves before but now it was the parents that opens up youtube and handed the tablet or phone to their kids to watch videos. It will start on that and eventually, they will know anything of using the gadget but no doubt that kids nowadays are more rebellious now in their early age compared to the kids in the past.

There is teenage pregnancy that is happening, involvement in illegal drugs, alcohol and obviously, gambling/addiction can be linked to it. Parents now should take extra care with their kids as early as possible.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 10, 2022, 02:46:48 AM

People now are aware of the technology and the internet so most of their parents now are leaving their children at an early age within their gadgets and by that, they can self-aware about the things on the internet such as gambling, the role of the parents must restrict their children and guide them because sometimes they don't know what's really doing of their child imagine at a very young age get addicted to the online gambling it's not suitable at the very young age. Better to help their child than blame each other because its about the mental health of the child.

totally agree, and a thing that relates to this idea is that some parents on sillicon valley don't let children under certain age (12?) use smartphones and social media
probably a much better way to raise a child, introducing technology over time and teaching the principles and dangers of it,
gambling, social media and some apps can be really addicting.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on March 10, 2022, 09:36:09 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 09:07:37 PM

Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

of course the parents not the game IMO, or should i say not the company behind of that gambling because its the parents consideration to take care their son no matter how busy they are.

It is going to the parents no matter how you look at it. Surely modernization and urbanization has put pressure on the family making parents to stay outside the home for many days and hours compared to how many hours spent at home because they have to work longer hours to provide for the kids. And with the level of sophisticated technology available, it exposes children to many dangerous vices. Gambling is suppose to be restricted for underaged and parents suppose to watch over there children.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 09:07:37 PM

Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

of course the parents not the game IMO, or should i say not the company behind of that gambling because its the parents consideration to take care their son no matter how busy they are.

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" Liz and Charles Ritchie attacked gambling companies"

By the way saw this on that link above, and I was like really?? Is that necessary,?? they don't even think that they have mistake as well why that incident happened.

Well obviously they are not aware that technology nowadays has bad effects especially when it comes mental health.. But still a big mistake to attack the company and put the blame on them because of word addiction.. Lol

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People now are aware of the technology and the internet so most of their parents now are leaving their children at an early age within their gadgets and by that, they can self-aware about the things on the internet such as gambling, the role of the parents must restrict their children and guide them because sometimes they don't know what's really doing of their child imagine at a very young age get addicted to the online gambling it's not suitable at the very young age. Better to help their child than blame each other because its about the mental health of the child.

Parenting these days needs to be extra vigilant compare to the traditional one, it's the time as well we've likely to have snowflake minded kids and can't even fathom a delayed gratification, they'd tantrum over silly things. We can't judge how they raise their child/Ren since we don't know ourselves what we will do in the future.

These internet age, you need to be techie as well and as far as I know there's a gadget to monitor every child and to filter out these bad actor apps and similar things like gambling. It's more like a filtering thing for what you can browse on a phone especially if it's for your child.

Childrens has a lot of access of everything over the net that's why its good for them to watch their child on what they are doing on internet because if they let them do whatever they want then provably this cases will still happen and worse their children will engage on illegal things at early age. Parents should explain and educate their child about huge risk and other things bothering in their mind because curiosity will always happen especially when children are misguided.

Parent was still the overseer of things and if they let slide even a thing or two it will just have snowball effect on children's future even if it's not that huge. Nowadays even if there's a good parenting if peers was more to influence a child, that wouldn't matter at all. It's more like the magnet of the bad influence by peers even if how good you are at parenting, so, it's best to not just educate them but you need to always check them everyday until they're fine to decide on their own.

Assuming that the parents discipline their children properly, I agree that this is important. If the parents do not discipline their children properly, the child will inevitably end up in a bad situation. Influence from bad friends is also a problem, and I understand that we can't prevent it, but we must talk to them about it and ensure that they listen to what we have to say. Because of this, we must inform them of the negative and positive aspects of their actions, as well as the consequences of their actions while they are still young.

No matter how much you might want to pass on your own experience to your children, it's a difficult task. Very often children in adolescence are left to themselves because their parents are always busy at work and they do not have the physical ability to control what their child is interested in.

Even if you control the child's devices, he can easily gamble with his friends and it may well grow into a gambling addiction. It's more about the psychological state of each individual. In my childhood I gambled with both peers and adults and now I continue to gamble only online. But I have not become addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 10, 2022, 02:46:48 AM

People now are aware of the technology and the internet so most of their parents now are leaving their children at an early age within their gadgets and by that, they can self-aware about the things on the internet such as gambling, the role of the parents must restrict their children and guide them because sometimes they don't know what's really doing of their child imagine at a very young age get addicted to the online gambling it's not suitable at the very young age. Better to help their child than blame each other because its about the mental health of the child.

That's one down sized of technology in the last 10-20 years, the tablets and the phones are now their "best friends" and it's really hard for the parents to control and monitor what their child is doing. So it really comes down to responsibility and extend some efforts to guide and shape your children. Because the moment you let the gadgets took over their lives, sooner or later you can't really control them, not just for gambling but any other stuff that will corrupt their young minds.

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I understand why almost all of the users replied that parental negligence is a major factor why this has happened, and I would also agree on that. Regardless of the busy schedule, distance, the age of the children, your siblings and basically anyone in the family, parents and other family members must check on one another from time to time. A simple how are you could make a difference, and even more advices that would leave an impact on them to have realizations on the things that they are currently doing. Depression is proven to be diagnosed, but it is not something that can be just easily determined, thus its cure would be a collaborative effort of the experts and the patients themselves.

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People now are aware of the technology and the internet so most of their parents now are leaving their children at an early age within their gadgets and by that, they can self-aware about the things on the internet such as gambling, the role of the parents must restrict their children and guide them because sometimes they don't know what's really doing of their child imagine at a very young age get addicted to the online gambling it's not suitable at the very young age. Better to help their child than blame each other because its about the mental health of the child.

Parenting these days needs to be extra vigilant compare to the traditional one, it's the time as well we've likely to have snowflake minded kids and can't even fathom a delayed gratification, they'd tantrum over silly things. We can't judge how they raise their child/Ren since we don't know ourselves what we will do in the future.

These internet age, you need to be techie as well and as far as I know there's a gadget to monitor every child and to filter out these bad actor apps and similar things like gambling. It's more like a filtering thing for what you can browse on a phone especially if it's for your child.

Childrens has a lot of access of everything over the net that's why its good for them to watch their child on what they are doing on internet because if they let them do whatever they want then provably this cases will still happen and worse their children will engage on illegal things at early age. Parents should explain and educate their child about huge risk and other things bothering in their mind because curiosity will always happen especially when children are misguided.

Parent was still the overseer of things and if they let slide even a thing or two it will just have snowball effect on children's future even if it's not that huge. Nowadays even if there's a good parenting if peers was more to influence a child, that wouldn't matter at all. It's more like the magnet of the bad influence by peers even if how good you are at parenting, so, it's best to not just educate them but you need to always check them everyday until they're fine to decide on their own.

Assuming that the parents discipline their children properly, I agree that this is important. If the parents do not discipline their children properly, the child will inevitably end up in a bad situation. Influence from bad friends is also a problem, and I understand that we can't prevent it, but we must talk to them about it and ensure that they listen to what we have to say. Because of this, we must inform them of the negative and positive aspects of their actions, as well as the consequences of their actions while they are still young.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 10, 2022, 02:46:48 AM

People now are aware of the technology and the internet so most of their parents now are leaving their children at an early age within their gadgets and by that, they can self-aware about the things on the internet such as gambling, the role of the parents must restrict their children and guide them because sometimes they don't know what's really doing of their child imagine at a very young age get addicted to the online gambling it's not suitable at the very young age. Better to help their child than blame each other because its about the mental health of the child.

Parenting these days needs to be extra vigilant compare to the traditional one, it's the time as well we've likely to have snowflake minded kids and can't even fathom a delayed gratification, they'd tantrum over silly things. We can't judge how they raise their child/Ren since we don't know ourselves what we will do in the future.

These internet age, you need to be techie as well and as far as I know there's a gadget to monitor every child and to filter out these bad actor apps and similar things like gambling. It's more like a filtering thing for what you can browse on a phone especially if it's for your child.

Childrens has a lot of access of everything over the net that's why its good for them to watch their child on what they are doing on internet because if they let them do whatever they want then provably this cases will still happen and worse their children will engage on illegal things at early age. Parents should explain and educate their child about huge risk and other things bothering in their mind because curiosity will always happen especially when children are misguided.

The internet has made everything so easy and parents should be aware of the power of the internet, parents should always check the history of what their child is doing online, everything starts out of curiosity, check if they are checking casinos or tutorials about casinos or they are betting or acquiring assets using money on gaming, some compulsive gamblers started as a gamer, when gaming cannot sustain them, they level up by playing on casinos and this is where the problem starts.

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People now are aware of the technology and the internet so most of their parents now are leaving their children at an early age within their gadgets and by that, they can self-aware about the things on the internet such as gambling, the role of the parents must restrict their children and guide them because sometimes they don't know what's really doing of their child imagine at a very young age get addicted to the online gambling it's not suitable at the very young age. Better to help their child than blame each other because its about the mental health of the child.

Parenting these days needs to be extra vigilant compare to the traditional one, it's the time as well we've likely to have snowflake minded kids and can't even fathom a delayed gratification, they'd tantrum over silly things. We can't judge how they raise their child/Ren since we don't know ourselves what we will do in the future.

These internet age, you need to be techie as well and as far as I know there's a gadget to monitor every child and to filter out these bad actor apps and similar things like gambling. It's more like a filtering thing for what you can browse on a phone especially if it's for your child.

Childrens has a lot of access of everything over the net that's why its good for them to watch their child on what they are doing on internet because if they let them do whatever they want then provably this cases will still happen and worse their children will engage on illegal things at early age. Parents should explain and educate their child about huge risk and other things bothering in their mind because curiosity will always happen especially when children are misguided.

Parent was still the overseer of things and if they let slide even a thing or two it will just have snowball effect on children's future even if it's not that huge. Nowadays even if there's a good parenting if peers was more to influence a child, that wouldn't matter at all. It's more like the magnet of the bad influence by peers even if how good you are at parenting, so, it's best to not just educate them but you need to always check them everyday until they're fine to decide on their own.

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