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Quote from: zidanw on March 11, 2022, 03:42:28 AM

Quote from: yazher on March 10, 2022, 09:42:24 PM

This happened before when a player who gets addicted and lost everything got revenge on the casino he was playing and bring a gun with him shooting anyone he sees there and finally he commits suicide. This is why the casinos nowadays are taking care of their players by issuing those warnings and precautions to avoid such deadly incidents in the future but most players ignored those precautions and proceed to play even though the money is saved for something else.

It is actually not the casinos problem but the person itself however the casinos can prevent it if they are going to be a little strict in regards with their players but due to competitions like here in the forum gambling sites that is not strict is more favorable than those who implement rules in regards with KYC. It is just a game and a leisure but if we don't managed to control our self and did not become a responsible gambler I don't think this will be the last time that this kind of incident will happen.

Nope, this won't end just because they will imply strict policies to avoid players getting addicted to it. Gambling addiction is a choice, and the person who is addicted won't be healed unless he will help himself with some medications, and the help of professional therapist. Maybe the said individual is rebelling to his parents due to lack of attention, love, and care, in my opinion.

Rehabilitation is a long run, that's why families are the one's who should be patient on helping their love ones in the process until they are healed, not nagging at them because they are addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 09:07:37 PM

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Yes parents is much responsible for what their children mat become because it is obligatory in their supervision of what they are entering and doing, we cannot just blame everyone for our children outcome in life.
and talking about 16 years old? this is their own responsibility and not of any one.

though i believe that cure and response is needed than blaming yet it is not from what i see in the article .

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Quote from: Gozie51 on March 11, 2022, 06:29:56 AM

Quote from: Saisher on March 10, 2022, 09:19:28 PM

Casinos have done their part issuing warning to those who signed up and play, they have strong warnings against those who exceed time and pour a lot of money into their casinos, they even had features to protect their players but unfortunately, players will always find a way to ignore and get past those features, in the end, if they suffer from losses they will blame the casinos when everything is pointing to their own action.

Everybody wants to get a means to put their blames on the next person. Casinos don't really force people to come play with them but people want to make money or double what they have and they fall for it. They don't need to blame anyone if they don't have control of themselves to play and bet with what they can lose. There are warning in every casino or gambling platform about the risk to it and if the gambler is play beyond control then it is the fault of such player.

The urge for wanting more or earn quickly is one of the main reason why people choose to risk their money to play on some games and mostly those people who blame other about their losses are newbie one who just been hype by certain person who tells them that they can earn huge money by just simply playing the games. More influencer are hyping people and they show huge amount of money to their subscribers that's why many live in fantasies that they can have those wealth to if they play.

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Quote from: Saisher on March 10, 2022, 09:19:28 PM

Casinos have done their part issuing warning to those who signed up and play, they have strong warnings against those who exceed time and pour a lot of money into their casinos, they even had features to protect their players but unfortunately, players will always find a way to ignore and get past those features, in the end, if they suffer from losses they will blame the casinos when everything is pointing to their own action.

Everybody wants to get a means to put their blames on the next person. Casinos don't really force people to come play with them but people want to make money or double what they have and they fall for it. They don't need to blame anyone if they don't have control of themselves to play and bet with what they can lose. There are warning in every casino or gambling platform about the risk to it and if the gambler is play beyond control then it is the fault of such player.

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Quote from: traderethereum on March 10, 2022, 10:46:05 PM

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Quote from: ajochems on March 10, 2022, 08:23:51 PM

Not we blame the gambling simply.No one force you to do gambling at any concerns.Doing gambling at your own risk.It's just a luckbased game.Sometimes it bases on a statics.When people with good gambling statics, they can easily win the game.But losing at the game is also a part of it.In some gambling games.Their was a good static and you ca easily learn it. Once you learn it, all the betting is all your success.

Casinos have done their part issuing warning to those who signed up and play, they have strong warnings against those who exceed time and pour a lot of money into their casinos, they even had features to protect their players but unfortunately, players will always find a way to ignore and get past those features, in the end, if they suffer from losses they will blame the casinos when everything is pointing to their own action.

That's because players forget the time they have spent playing gambling so subconsciously, they spend more money on gambling.
If players have a good level of control, they will not be affected by anything that happens to them because they know that winning and losing is normal in gambling.
They will stop immediately if they see their playing time is over but that only happens to some players.
Casinos have done their job of warning players.
Now, it is up to the players whether they want to protect themselves from any consequences that will arise from gambling or continue to gamble regardless of the consequences.

It's not really on the rules but on the character of the player, the warnings are useless unless you have good control over how you play, the warnings and the rules are there because it needs to be there for government and regulation compliance if you are a responsible with good character, and you have a strong character you can take that character to casinos and you will come out safe.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 09:07:37 PM

I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Because the story ended sadly everyone is looking for who to blame. If the deceased gambler had hit a jackpot we would have called him a gem or clever. Gambling is like smoking or drinking or humanising, people are warned of the dangers in them but they do not pay heed to warnings. Once they get addicted, staying off it or stopping it becomes very hard. I do not blame anyone but the gambler himself. He knew what he was doing and allowed it to consume him, not his parents.

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Quote from: yazher on March 10, 2022, 09:42:24 PM

This happened before when a player who gets addicted and lost everything got revenge on the casino he was playing and bring a gun with him shooting anyone he sees there and finally he commits suicide. This is why the casinos nowadays are taking care of their players by issuing those warnings and precautions to avoid such deadly incidents in the future but most players ignored those precautions and proceed to play even though the money is saved for something else.

It is actually not the casinos problem but the person itself however the casinos can prevent it if they are going to be a little strict in regards with their players but due to competitions like here in the forum gambling sites that is not strict is more favorable than those who implement rules in regards with KYC. It is just a game and a leisure but if we don't managed to control our self and did not become a responsible gambler I don't think this will be the last time that this kind of incident will happen.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 10, 2022, 07:30:59 PM

It is a complex issue because is a matter of individual choice. It is not as much as the problem being excessive gambling as it is the personality of some people that are more prone to get into a number of situations because they have issues with control. And it can be violence, it can be drugs or anything, it is just that their brain is wired that way and there is not that much anyone can do.

Yup, i'm not sure if it was posted here in the gambling discussion but I remember stumbling upon a thread back then that mentioned how most gamblers are vulnerable to excessive gambling since they tend to chase losses or usually look at recovering losses as an objective instead of moving on with it.

Quote from: ajochems on March 10, 2022, 08:23:51 PM

Their was a good static and you ca easily learn it. Once you learn it, all the betting is all your success.

There are things that you can quickly learn but applying them is difficult since there are times when you make small mistakes that could lead to bigger ones.

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Quote from: Saisher on March 10, 2022, 09:19:28 PM

Quote from: ajochems on March 10, 2022, 08:23:51 PM

Not we blame the gambling simply.No one force you to do gambling at any concerns.Doing gambling at your own risk.It's just a luckbased game.Sometimes it bases on a statics.When people with good gambling statics, they can easily win the game.But losing at the game is also a part of it.In some gambling games.Their was a good static and you ca easily learn it. Once you learn it, all the betting is all your success.

Casinos have done their part issuing warning to those who signed up and play, they have strong warnings against those who exceed time and pour a lot of money into their casinos, they even had features to protect their players but unfortunately, players will always find a way to ignore and get past those features, in the end, if they suffer from losses they will blame the casinos when everything is pointing to their own action.

That's because players forget the time they have spent playing gambling so subconsciously, they spend more money on gambling.
If players have a good level of control, they will not be affected by anything that happens to them because they know that winning and losing is normal in gambling.
They will stop immediately if they see their playing time is over but that only happens to some players.
Casinos have done their job of warning players.
Now, it is up to the players whether they want to protect themselves from any consequences that will arise from gambling or continue to gamble regardless of the consequences.

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Quote from: Saisher on March 10, 2022, 09:19:28 PM

Casinos have done their part issuing warning to those who signed up and play, they have strong warnings against those who exceed time and pour a lot of money into their casinos, they even had features to protect their players but unfortunately, players will always find a way to ignore and get past those features, in the end, if they suffer from losses they will blame the casinos when everything is pointing to their own action.

This happened before when a player who gets addicted and lost everything got revenge on the casino he was playing and bring a gun with him shooting anyone he sees there and finally he commits suicide. This is why the casinos nowadays are taking care of their players by issuing those warnings and precautions to avoid such deadly incidents in the future but most players ignored those precautions and proceed to play even though the money is saved for something else.

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Quote from: ajochems on March 10, 2022, 08:23:51 PM

Not we blame the gambling simply.No one force you to do gambling at any concerns.Doing gambling at your own risk.It's just a luckbased game.Sometimes it bases on a statics.When people with good gambling statics, they can easily win the game.But losing at the game is also a part of it.In some gambling games.Their was a good static and you ca easily learn it. Once you learn it, all the betting is all your success.

Casinos have done their part issuing warning to those who signed up and play, they have strong warnings against those who exceed time and pour a lot of money into their casinos, they even had features to protect their players but unfortunately, players will always find a way to ignore and get past those features, in the end, if they suffer from losses they will blame the casinos when everything is pointing to their own action.

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Not we blame the gambling simply.No one force you to do gambling at any concerns.Doing gambling at your own risk.It's just a luckbased game.Sometimes it bases on a statics.When people with good gambling statics, they can easily win the game.But losing at the game is also a part of it.In some gambling games.Their was a good static and you ca easily learn it. Once you learn it, all the betting is all your success.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 10, 2022, 07:30:59 PM

It is a complex issue because is a matter of individual choice. It is not as much as the problem being excessive gambling as it is the personality of some people that are more prone to get into a number of situations because they have issues with control. And it can be violence, it can be drugs or anything, it is just that their brain is wired that way and there is not that much anyone can do.

Yes, it is complex, it is not only seen from one side mistake that is the parents. But we must consider the early condition why the child is interested in gambling, from where it is, and how he can play gambling. This needs special attention from the parents and also other parties such as the medical treatment are necessary. N need to blame each other. We need to find the solution from the root.
Because, if we only blame the parents because of their responsibility of their own children, we will also not know exactly how parents have tried the efforts to control the children. And we cannot also blame the children because they are playing with joy. Moreover the gambling companies, may give certain advertisements where children can also access it, so they are interested to play.
As parents, we must not also blame others to be responsible. this is complex, this is the responsible also from the parents that should know the exact condition of their children. This needs some evaluation why the chlder ins attracted in gambling and being addicted to gambling. Moroever to kids, this may be difficult to recover, but needs supports from every elemnt, the parents, the kid himslef, and all parties related.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 09:07:37 PM

I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Agree. Don't blame the gambling companies, gambling companies didn't force anyone to gamble. It is the parents' responsibility to monitor and educate their children to stay away from dangerous things for children. Most gambling companies only allow mature people to gamble, which means minimizing the addictive cases and making sure the gamblers have sufficient knowledge + self-control. So, the gambling companies actually have done a good regulation in filtering out decent gamblers.

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It is a complex issue because is a matter of individual choice. It is not as much as the problem being excessive gambling as it is the personality of some people that are more prone to get into a number of situations because they have issues with control. And it can be violence, it can be drugs or anything, it is just that their brain is wired that way and there is not that much anyone can do.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 09:07:37 PM

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

First of all, what is the regulation about gambling in the country? COmmonly, it may be different for eachcountry to allow kids to play gambling i=at certain age.
16YO is still a child in my country and still under the control of parent responsibility, but maybe it is different in the other country.
Sometimes, we cannot control our children 24 hours per day. But at least, we should know what they are doing commonly, especially in their own room or even outside. Because sometimes, they are expert in hiding their secret activities when we are not there.
And about his case, a kid that is addicted to gambling, we should also see from several points of view.
If they are still under the control of parents or responsible from the parents of course, here, parents are the one who is responsible for what happened to the kids. We cannot blame others.
But if the child is considered as a teen with their own responsibility, may be it will also depend on their own responsibility, but I think that parent must also know about this.
The most impriatnt thing is not for blaming each other, ut trying to get the problme solving and solution of the problme, AN dmake this as anevalutaion for all parties.

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Even how strict the parents are or put pressure on their child to limit a specific activity, there's no way someone can avoid encountering any related stuff involving gambling. That's already part of society and gambling is everywhere. At an age, roughly 16-year old isn't closely followed now by their parents on their every day's doing. With just a conversation with their friends, there's a chance that gambling might be discussed. Or maybe during their school. And with technology today, everything is on the internet already.

Instead of blaming game, if parents saw their child is acting strangely, have a good talk with them. That's being responsible.

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Twitch gamblers are great example, governments don't want to ban gambling streams for obvious reasons but addicted gamblers get burnt in this trap almost new victim every day. Hopefully, no more suicide news on media related to gambling addiction.

That doesn't make sense. Who is the one that needs to adjust? Them or us?

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on March 10, 2022, 06:50:45 PM

Parents can play a vital role in a child's environment. It might also be a good idea to discuss something like this. Sooner or later a child will come into contact with gambling, it does not always have to be online. It can also start in a real land-based casino. But I think it's easier on that. The environment is also determined by a group of friends. If there are a number of friends among them who gamble, then you have to be strong.

Not just 'can' but they really play an important role in the growth of their children. They are the parents and they are the ones that are active in the development of their children.
As long as those children are not on the right age, they'll still remain to be children and they cannot enter the premises of the casino. Not unless they've been planning it all along that when they grow up, it's one of their goals to enter the physical casinos.

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Parents should accept full responsibility and don't blame external factors that caused this suicide. Parents have to keep control over activities of their children and check his mental health that can be hurt by addictive activities. Twitch gamblers are great example, governments don't want to ban gambling streams for obvious reasons but addicted gamblers get burnt in this trap almost new victim every day. Hopefully, no more suicide news on media related to gambling addiction.

like it or not, parents have great responsibility in molding their kids. discipline starts from home. there are reasons why kids are going into vices and the parents should understand why their kids are behaving that way. they need to address the situation as early as they can. because the truth is, you can't blame it to someone else, like friends or teachers. because it is your responsibility to guide your kids to the right path. no one else will provide unconditional support to your kids but you, as parents.

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Quote from: kaya11 on March 10, 2022, 06:04:05 PM

Quote from: virasog on March 08, 2022, 11:55:29 PM

Same is our stance on everything in life including gambling. We do whatever we like but we do not want our children to do the same things. If parents didn't gamble in the first place, there are fewer chances of their children doing the same.

Damn true, that is why as much as possible we show to them good sides and not the bad ones. This starts when they are little kids, they save memories and what comes to their mind at that age will be remembered for a lifetime. If your children sees you as a gambler, possibility is, they would also be gamblers in the future, so teach them not to be at the young age and the chances would be minimum. I know someone, a hard gambler and his parents are not. So another factor is the community where you raise your children, they could get the habit of gambling with friends and other people they mingle with. Really better to try being a strict parent and see what they up into.

^ Both of you are definitely right, it starts with us as parents, we should raise them in a good manner and teach them not on the bad side, let us show them as a good model. If you are not a gambler of course they will not too. You can also control if you are not home about their internet activities like using phone that could be lead to gambling, in your internet router there is a parent control on the device which is you can set there when they will have an internet and it will automatically disconnected the device that they use in time of bed time to in time of studying.

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