Topic: Blame Game in gambling - page 10. (Read 1045 times)

Blame the parents who did not monitor and guide their kids. It's their responsibility to ensure that minors should stay away from gambling, you can't blame gambling because this industry has been here for centuries, and they are not here to destroy lives.

What destroy lives in gambling is irresponsible gambling, and sometimes irresponsible parents makes one.

Allow me to disagree with you mate, in as much as I believe that people reason or think differently, I still think that depression isn't actually the reason why people go into gambling and get addicted, it should be the other way round, too much gambling actually births depression.
Just imagine gambling for straight 30 days without a single win, thinking about all the money lost and better things one could have used the money for is enough reason for one to fall into really deep depression.

1. Talking about why people go into gambling, (not like to say gambling is a bad thing, but allowing oneself to get addicted is where it becomes a really big problem), most people I know were introduced into gambling by their friend(s) after seeing their friend(s) winning(s), but without properly managing the habit, they end up like those in my second point below 👇.

2. Others I know went into it out of curiosity and after loosing money many times, they continued playing in hopes of winning one day so as to recover all the money they've lost previously, but unfortunately, it sometimes doesn't work out that way.

3. Others went into gambling as a side hustle, but without properly watching the habit, most end up like those in my second point above 👆.

4. Others go into gambling out of depression for quick money or wealth, but unfortunately, if they dont control themselves, they still end up like the ones in my second point above 👆.

This are just the few reasons I can mention from all the reasons I know, I've never seen anyone go into gambling out of depression, depressed people end up doing drugs, alcohol, doing all sort of dangerous things to themselves, and in the worst case scenario, commit suicide, any thing that can get them high, something that can make them forget their present problems or condition, gambling does not make anyone forget their problems but rather, it adds to it because after playing, you have to worry and pray you win, and if eventually you don't win, you begin to worry and feel bad for the money you just lost and think of ways to get it back.

If you look at the factor after his child reaches 16, it is a decision that the child is already aware of. So don't completely blame the parents. But also the child must be responsible for what he takes regarding gambling. At the age of 16 and above, usually psychological development is always wanting to try new things. Meanwhile, the lack of parental supervision, the environment, and friends around also affect what the child does.

Identification of the environment and daily interactions will find a bright point that every parent gives freedom to children who have started to reach adulthood.

They're labeling the gambling industry as predatory.

Being someone who follows the news, I remember a time when college university recruiters were approaching homeless people on the street offering to sign them up for government education loans. Of course, the homeless had little chance of benefiting from a college education. It was a predatory move made by universities to boost their profit margins. Today the united states has a student loan bubble as a result.

Its more typical to hear of similar stories in many industries today, than it is for these type of predatory practices to not exist.

And so I wonder if the gambling industry can singled out as being predatory, when the term may apply more broadly to our global standard.

They are not to blame all the time, there are gamblers who developed their gambling addictions when they are old enough already make money and can decide on their own, there's a root cause of it all, not the parents all the time, sometimes from habit from the stress of works from surroundings and influences coming from peers and the place where they live, each case is very much different from the other.

We already have a thread about this artible here in the gambling discussion thread. Maybe try and merge the discussion in there?  You are right that the parents should have helped his son. With 24 years the parents don't have any supervision duties anymore, but they should have helped their kid nonetheless. Gambling is similar to other things in life that bring us joy, we shouldn't over do them. Everything should be done with limits, like drinking alcohol, smoking, or eating unhealthy food. The gambling industry is not the villain here.

the adage once said, because of habit we become addicted, if we ever fall once we will most likely repeat the second time, after that we will be addicted and can't be separated from games and gambling, before we move on we better think first, because if we regret later it's useless, it's the job of parents to advise, but we have to be good at taking care of ourselves, the teacher's job is to provide education, reduce association with an unhealthy environment, look for friends who give motivation, not friends who plunge us into a muddy hole.

I agree with you. Many of peoples issues or wrong doings can often be placed on bad parenting. If you read the book Think Like a Freak it breaks this down. Why were the parents allowing them to so easily be able to gamble. How the heck did they have the money to do so. I without question think some of the blame if not most goes on the parents.

If for example we are still the responsibility of our parents, it is certain that the role of parents takes precedence, when we are mature and independent we must control ourselves so as not to fall into gambling, we cannot blame the game. and the environment, because it all depends on ourselves, if I blame the game I lack respect, even though we live in an environment of people playing gambling if we are good at taking care of ourselves, surely we will not be affected..

Yeah, Gambling is easy to access as recreational activity to release stress especially for those who has depression and easy access on the internet. Actually there's no one need to blame on this kind of incident since neither the parents nor the specialist want this to happened. I believe it's very hard to stop this kind of problem if the person itself don't want to help his/herself to overcome depression. Gambling with depression will just amplify the pain of the person whenever he lose money. On this case, KYC is playing an important role to control this kind of incident.

People turn to gambling, as an outlet for their depression, it's actually the depression that causes it, and the depression manifested more when the person started losing more and cannot keep up with losing they do not know how to address losing like when they do not know how to address depression, depression kills and gambling is not a place to release your depression, you will suffer more.

Indeed, this is a case of parent's negligence. Parental guidance during the growth of their children is essential. Their teachings and nourishment during the crucial years from being a kid to their early adolescence is of importance so that they could develop the learnings, principles, beliefs, attitude, and discipline they need while growing up. Being absent during those times that the children need the proper guidance from their parents could lead to several things such as developing anxiety, depression, and even addiction. Gambling addiction is a problem that could have been prevented if there were adults that will guide and lead the child into proper and right path. It is parents responsibility to take care of their children. It is their duty and obligation to ensure their safety and they are having a good health. A parent shouldn't pass their responsibility to other people because it is their kid in the first place. No one would be responsible aside from them, not even their teachers for exhibiting such behaviors.

I know parents do their very best to provide the support  their children need. However, it is also important to take a pause for a while and check up on them. Let's not be caught up with work to the point we neglect our responsibilities to our children.

The only one who's to be blame on such unfortunate incident is the gambler itself because he will not go thru that situation if he just moderate things. We know he's minor but for sure he can think already for his self if this is bad or good. And for continue to participatinf on those risky games even if he know he's not gaining anything also this already affect his daily activities in life. We can't blame their parents on this case since we don't know if they have other things needed to take care to as we know our parents is busy working or taking care of something important to provide the daily needs of their children but since this case already happen maybe its good for them to seek experts advise on this situation.

Well in the first place parents should have the responsibility with their children, it should be rise with a good moral and the most important is not to involve in gambling addict and should focus on study. If parents are busy with work they can hire a nanny for the child.
We cannot blame anything except the parents, diligence towards their children should always be guided by them.
However, a teacher won't teach their students a bad manner or habit at a young age pupil, never blame them if your child was in gambling addiction.

It's just like any addictive thing, whenever you feel to yourself you're doing more than you used to and you continue doing it every day, it means you need some help outside your comfort zone. Because if you let it consume you, it will get worse every day and you might fall into some deadly thoughts and beliefs. That's why you can see some hotline for consultation and other stuff because they know that the crucial thing to do first is to talk to that kind of people and help them with counseling their problems.

From the source that the OP showed, and I read carefully, I concluded Jack's death as stated by Jack's parents below, I don't agree.

If I'm not mistaken, in this forum we have all been warned many times about the risks of gambling addiction, from the source Jack committed suicide due to gambling addiction, question: where were their parents, before Jack got addicted and ended his life, did they care about Jack all his life.

Cases like this have happened in my country, parents are busy with work, their children are given tens of dollars every month, but the old man never knew what the money was used for, one day the old man found out the money he gave every month was spent on gambling by his son, parents are very angry, then immediately scolded him very rudely, the end of the story the child did not accept, because he was already seriously addicted, ended up committing suicide, In a case like this, who is to blame, the parents, the child or the gambling company, everyone can judge who was behind the child's death.

Well ultimately the one to blame would be the person involved themselves, the rest are just third parties with some degree of influence to the party involved, emphasis on the "some". Sure parents can actively involve themselves in educating their kid, but in the end, it would still be the kid themselves who would decide if he would do something or not. As I said in a previous thread before, influence can be long-lasting but at the same time, it could also be not. A person can choose what they  can be influenced on imo.

That old topic was locked and hence we could not discuss it further. I created this topic again because it is a sensitive issue and many gamblers (mainly the newcomers), should know the side effects of gambling for the underage. Previously most physical casino did not allow underage people to access the casino but this online gambling has removed all restrictions and we see a lot of depression and anxiety in the younger generation becoming addicted to gambling.

Let me also quote from this article that were posted.... “As the mental health charity Mind and others acknowledge, the reasons behind any suicide are ‘complex and can have lots of different causes’."

So, he might have had depression from other things that went wrong in his life and gambling was just one way to handle that. (Like people that turn to alcohol, when things go bad)

I can understand that the parents want to lash out at someone to shift the blame, but each individual case has it's own merit. How many old or lonely people gamble to stop them from going into depression? (They go to a casino to mingle and socialize with other people) 

I think have the same cases talking on last topic but was closed reply there and I don't know why he try make new topic with the same discussing, I think all parent need to educate about his kid not allowed for gambling site before pass 18 years old, I think have been discuss on last topic before and not need to make new topic again with the same discussing opinion. Maybe he try give good educate for parent with his kid how to know with gambling site and really need to educate all kid before active in gambling site between sport betting or casino games.