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Quote from: bitgov on March 16, 2022, 07:58:05 PM

Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 09:07:37 PM

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

I think that such stories will appear in the media more and more. Hundreds of thousands or even millions of teenagers did not go out from home to school for many months, but spent their time in front of the computers. Certainly many of them fell into traps set by the marketing tricks of various casinos.
The pandemic situation is unprecedented, so we cannot blame anyone. We have to realize that the consequence of all lockdowns will be these types of new dangers. The only thing we can do now is be aware of it and warn others about it.

As long as teenagers don't use their free time to do positive things and instead use them for negative things, the consequences will surely exist and befall teenagers.
Moreover, if the situation at their home is not conducive, it will add to the chaos of the atmosphere and can make teenagers do things beyond what parents can imagine.
It can make them addicted to gambling but maybe even worse because of various kinds of deviations they can do if they can't control themselves.
If they prefer to spend their time on the internet, they will become addicted to it and may socialize less with other friends.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on March 16, 2022, 09:51:12 PM

Quote from: Taskford on March 16, 2022, 08:03:17 AM

Government also should have proper programs about gambling side effects since if this area will be much taking care of the government and they regulate gambling very well then all huge risk what those child can face is certain much avoidable, but since there's little to not much attention given by government as well with the mainstream media well their parents should educate them the risk and they should introduce first this scenery to their children before other to this for them so that they can also educate them how bad the effects if they get addicted to much on it.

Nice adoption ideas should did government about gambling site rule, I think have several countries looks freedom with gambling promoting exactly on football domestic league jersey, I think need have rule adopted if gambling site is not allowed for advertising to public and this effective how to make children not really understood with gambling site. But right now many countries looks have legal for advertising gambling site although they have same rule with gambling is not legal in their country. Have I saw in my football domestic team they advertising gambling site but in my country gambling is not legal.

Parents is the first responsible with the issue of their child because i guess they have a lack of proper guidance and of course the government is not quite aware on this unless the number of this cases increases and this is the time that the government might take an action such as rehabilitation to the children with the proper things such as removing the too much addiction in gambling after that they can now back to their life fully recover with their mental, physical and emotional state and not brings back into gambling addiction.

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When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

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Quote from: Taskford on March 16, 2022, 08:03:17 AM

Government also should have proper programs about gambling side effects since if this area will be much taking care of the government and they regulate gambling very well then all huge risk what those child can face is certain much avoidable, but since there's little to not much attention given by government as well with the mainstream media well their parents should educate them the risk and they should introduce first this scenery to their children before other to this for them so that they can also educate them how bad the effects if they get addicted to much on it.

Nice adoption ideas should did government about gambling site rule, I think have several countries looks freedom with gambling promoting exactly on football domestic league jersey, I think need have rule adopted if gambling site is not allowed for advertising to public and this effective how to make children not really understood with gambling site. But right now many countries looks have legal for advertising gambling site although they have same rule with gambling is not legal in their country. Have I saw in my football domestic team they advertising gambling site but in my country gambling is not legal.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 09:07:37 PM

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

I think that such stories will appear in the media more and more. Hundreds of thousands or even millions of teenagers did not go out from home to school for many months, but spent their time in front of the computers. Certainly many of them fell into traps set by the marketing tricks of various casinos.
The pandemic situation is unprecedented, so we cannot blame anyone. We have to realize that the consequence of all lockdowns will be these types of new dangers. The only thing we can do now is be aware of it and warn others about it.

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Quote from: Taskford on March 16, 2022, 08:03:17 AM

Government also should have proper programs about gambling side effects since if this area will be much taking care of the government and they regulate gambling very well then all huge risk what those child can face is certain much avoidable, but since there's little to not much attention given by government as well with the mainstream media well their parents should educate them the risk and they should introduce first this scenery to their children before other to this for them so that they can also educate them how bad the effects if they get addicted to much on it.

Actually, there's no problem with government programs related to gambling. There are lots. But should we just only rely on that to save these children's ass in going to casinos or do gambling? Gambling is everywhere already and children will really encounter that soon while they are growing up.

The age of the person talking about on this thread is 16 years old. At that age, there's no need for full monitoring by their parents. At this age, these people have the ability to hide their activities from their parents.

Responsible gambling associates bad experiences. People will never be responsible if there's no painful experience in doing gambling. I hope that 16 years old will be able to be responsible for gambling after the event of having a big loss.

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Quote from: peter0425 on March 16, 2022, 07:06:21 AM

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Quote from: maydna on March 15, 2022, 06:28:59 AM

Their children do not need to adopt their parent's experiences but listen to what their parents have to say because there must be something that their children can use for their lives. After all, their children's experiences would be different from their parent's because their world was already different. Maybe not to blame the parents, but at least the parents educate their children to get the best for them. No parent wants to see their children fall into evil, which requires responsibility from each of us.

It depends on how the parents have grown their children. If these children knows how to obey what their parents are saying, they're going to listen to them and do whatever they say.
But if these children don't listen to them anymore, there are only things that can be said of. These parents need to study parenting or these children have been influenced really badly.

Sometimes it is the community that makes the children worst and not just their Houses, the people they come along aside from their parents and family members in which those people from School or in neighborhood .

there are cases in my community that even how good their parents , still they cannot look at their children 24/7 as they have obligation to do..

That's the sad reality. Despite the good teachings of the parents, they just can't be with their children at all times and whoever these kids are always with.
The huge influence will come from those people in the surroundings that they're getting alone with at most times. We can't blame the parents on this part and it's always a hard moment for those parents and children that are being in this situation.

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 16, 2022, 12:44:13 PM

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I think everyone should be responsible for their actions. He was not dragged at gunpoint to the casino. He went there quite deliberately.

A weak person is more likely to blame someone else for his problems than to take responsibility for his own actions and begin to deal with those problems.

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Quote from: madnessteat on March 16, 2022, 06:46:09 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on March 15, 2022, 04:57:52 PM

But this is a stupid way for you, but for him it may be smart. Do you want to deny him the right to make a decision?
As for harm, what about an unhealthy lifestyle? After all, it kills no less inevitably than other quick methods. Do you want to force people to go for a run in the morning? Take away their "extra" dose of sugar, etc.? How far will your concern extend? When I say "you" I mean the state.

In my opinion, this is not a matter of the state, as suicides occur in all countries, somewhere less, somewhere more. This behavior is considered abnormal in most communities, both civil and religious.

Of course, each of us has the right to choose what to do, but the main thing is that it should not harm those around us. This guy has done a lot of harm to his family and students.

Sure. The question is, who are we to blame for what happened? "The predatory industry of gambling" or the person himself who, having free will, acted stupidly and harmed both himself and others? Fans of totalitarianism love to blame anyone (except the most guilty) and on this basis interfere with regulation (which only makes it worse) in people's lives.

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Quote from: madnessteat on March 16, 2022, 11:37:18 AM

Quote from: shawon01 on March 16, 2022, 10:19:33 AM

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Not always. I started gambling card games with my peers. At first we didn't play for money, but that changed over time. Any gambling brings more pleasure if, in case of a win, the winner receives a financial profit. In my opinion, this is the main factor that makes many addicted to gambling.

In my case, it was even more interesting.

We also played cards for money in our teens and youth. Furthermore. Then someone thought of playing for money even in table tennis.

And for some time this went on.
And it was fun and was a strong passion.
But God had mercy on my friends and me, and none of us became an addicted gambler and none of us suffered from gambling addiction.

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Quote from: shawon01 on March 16, 2022, 10:19:33 AM

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Not always. I started gambling card games with my peers. At first we didn't play for money, but that changed over time. Any gambling brings more pleasure if, in case of a win, the winner receives a financial profit. In my opinion, this is the main factor that makes many addicted to gambling.

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All you have to do to prevent gambling at a young age here is to spread the word about the tide, and all parents need to be aware of how they interact with their friends and whether they are addicted to winning. And I think usually no one enters gambling because of the invitation of their friends. It's an addiction.

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Quote from: Cookdata on March 15, 2022, 06:48:31 AM

... but they have a limit on how they can protect their child.

Exactly! You're right!
This limit determines whether a parent can raise his child in such a way that he obeys the advice of his parents and follows these advice exactly, or ignore the advice of his parents. At the age of 14-15, this becomes especially difficult, and depends heavily on the traditions of this family, their religious beliefs, the presence of older brothers or sisters with their life experience, and, finally, on the intellectual abilities of the parents themselves. But it often happens that such abilities are not enough - this is the limit

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Quote from: Wexnident on March 16, 2022, 07:16:29 AM

Quote from: lienfaye on March 16, 2022, 12:33:11 AM

The parents are responsible to educate their children about gambling before they discover it by themselves. This way, even your child is expose in gambling, he/she will become aware of the negative effect of it. But every kid has their own behavior and it depends on our parenting style. I think its better to explain it to them instead of waiting before they discover it on their own and become curious.

And it isn't even only applicable to educating children. It's literally an idea that could help people control others in a way that could benefit them by letting them know what they're actually avoiding. You can't exactly say to avoid item x just because, at least let the person understand what it entails or what item x even does. It's a simple strategy to educate people and yet it still escapes their minds to actually do it. Leaving explanations behind could be deadly. Even introducing it to their child themselves may be the better option in some cases.

Government also should have proper programs about gambling side effects since if this area will be much taking care of the government and they regulate gambling very well then all huge risk what those child can face is certain much avoidable, but since there's little to not much attention given by government as well with the mainstream media well their parents should educate them the risk and they should introduce first this scenery to their children before other to this for them so that they can also educate them how bad the effects if they get addicted to much on it.

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Quote from: lienfaye on March 16, 2022, 12:33:11 AM

The parents are responsible to educate their children about gambling before they discover it by themselves. This way, even your child is expose in gambling, he/she will become aware of the negative effect of it. But every kid has their own behavior and it depends on our parenting style. I think its better to explain it to them instead of waiting before they discover it on their own and become curious.

And it isn't even only applicable to educating children. It's literally an idea that could help people control others in a way that could benefit them by letting them know what they're actually avoiding. You can't exactly say to avoid item x just because, at least let the person understand what it entails or what item x even does. It's a simple strategy to educate people and yet it still escapes their minds to actually do it. Leaving explanations behind could be deadly. Even introducing it to their child themselves may be the better option in some cases.

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Quote from: tabas on March 15, 2022, 05:52:58 PM

Quote from: maydna on March 15, 2022, 06:28:59 AM

Their children do not need to adopt their parent's experiences but listen to what their parents have to say because there must be something that their children can use for their lives. After all, their children's experiences would be different from their parent's because their world was already different. Maybe not to blame the parents, but at least the parents educate their children to get the best for them. No parent wants to see their children fall into evil, which requires responsibility from each of us.

It depends on how the parents have grown their children. If these children knows how to obey what their parents are saying, they're going to listen to them and do whatever they say.
But if these children don't listen to them anymore, there are only things that can be said of. These parents need to study parenting or these children have been influenced really badly.

Sometimes it is the community that makes the children worst and not just their Houses, the people they come along aside from their parents and family members in which those people from School or in neighborhood .

there are cases in my community that even how good their parents , still they cannot look at their children 24/7 as they have obligation to do..

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Quote from: lienfaye on March 16, 2022, 12:33:11 AM

Quote from: xSkylarx on March 16, 2022, 12:03:38 AM

I agree not to show them, but if they discovered it on their own through the internet and will never show it to you, that is extremely dangerous. I believe that the best approach is not to tell them directly, but if they find out that you are doing it, explain to them what the risks are and that if you are under the age of 18, you should not play these types of games. As long as they listen, you can explain it to them and persuade them not to do that thing because they will become curious if you do not say anything about it.

The parents are responsible to educate their children about gambling before they discover it by themselves. This way, even your child is expose in gambling, he/she will become aware of the negative effect of it. But every kid has their own behavior and it depends on our parenting style. I think its better to explain it to them instead of waiting before they discover it on their own and become curious.

This is so on point.

It is parent's duty to teach their children the advantages and disadvantages a thing might cause them. A parent should do the right parenting style in order to let their kids know the possible consequences if something is not done correctly, excessively, and in haste. I very much agree that parents should be the first to approach their child about these things before they even discover it, so that when they knew about it later on, they have the knowledge and wisdom that they need to guide them on the right path despite the possible bad effects of it.

This is just like sex education. We should instill knowledge about gambling on our children the moment they are of right age to understand things like these. Because you see, once they hit puberty, they tend to get more curious about things. Exploration without background of pros and cons could cost them great damage the moment they engage with it. So let's start it in our home to let them understand so they won't fall into the pit of their damnation once they turn adults.

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 15, 2022, 04:57:52 PM

Quote from: madnessteat on March 15, 2022, 03:27:51 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on March 15, 2022, 02:08:51 PM

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I believe that one should consciously harm oneself only in urgent cases, such as when one is hopelessly ill with cancer and the narcotics that have been denouncing his hellish pains have ceased to work. Euthanasia is an excellent option in such cases.

If a person decides to commit suicide because of some problem, he is just a coward who, instead of fighting the problem, is trying to escape from it in this stupid way.

But this is a stupid way for you, but for him it may be smart. Do you want to deny him the right to make a decision?
As for harm, what about an unhealthy lifestyle? After all, it kills no less inevitably than other quick methods. Do you want to force people to go for a run in the morning? Take away their "extra" dose of sugar, etc.? How far will your concern extend? When I say "you" I mean the state.

if we push it this discussion can go really far all the way to the dystopian possibilities
in the end what I see in many places is that the state is much more interested on staying in power than in people's health and wealth.

what do you think?

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 15, 2022, 04:57:52 PM

Quote from: madnessteat on March 15, 2022, 03:27:51 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on March 15, 2022, 02:08:51 PM

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I believe that one should consciously harm oneself only in urgent cases, such as when one is hopelessly ill with cancer and the narcotics that have been denouncing his hellish pains have ceased to work. Euthanasia is an excellent option in such cases.

If a person decides to commit suicide because of some problem, he is just a coward who, instead of fighting the problem, is trying to escape from it in this stupid way.

But this is a stupid way for you, but for him it may be smart. Do you want to deny him the right to make a decision?
As for harm, what about an unhealthy lifestyle? After all, it kills no less inevitably than other quick methods. Do you want to force people to go for a run in the morning? Take away their "extra" dose of sugar, etc.? How far will your concern extend? When I say "you" I mean the state.

In my opinion, this is not a matter of the state, as suicides occur in all countries, somewhere less, somewhere more. This behavior is considered abnormal in most communities, both civil and religious.

Of course, each of us has the right to choose what to do, but the main thing is that it should not harm those around us. This guy has done a lot of harm to his family and students.

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Quote from: tabas on March 15, 2022, 05:52:58 PM

Quote from: maydna on March 15, 2022, 06:28:59 AM

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It depends on how the parents have grown their children. If these children knows how to obey what their parents are saying, they're going to listen to them and do whatever they say.
But if these children don't listen to them anymore, there are only things that can be said of. These parents need to study parenting or these children have been influenced really badly.

Parenting patterns of children should start when they are small so that when they grow up, they have begun to understand good and bad and what they should do or decide. But not many parents can understand the parenting of their children properly and correctly because many of them are busy working and forget about this important thing. And because of this, we see a lot of kids growing up getting misguided and finding the wrong friends.

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