This is an unfortunate event to expose the underaged in gambling, they are really prone to addiction since they can’t still control their emotion correctly so I also believe that, their own family should be the first one to guide him and teach him about the pros and cons of gambling.
That’s 16 years old is still under the same house of his parents, proper guidance is the key here and we should not blame anyone. This is the problem when there’s no KYC on a gambling site, Underaged can easily play on their system even if its not allowed.
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Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
Then you are saying we should blame the parents? That's unacceptable. Not all the time our parents should be there to keep us monitored. And even if they did, do you actually believe they can monitor all our activities especially if we want to hide something?
A 16-year-old person should already have the knowledge and know the difference between do's and don't. I know they are in the stage of curiosity but blaming the parents because of what happened is totally out of the discussion.
Since it's already happened, the best thing to do is to help their son get to recover instead of doing a blaming game like what you are doing OP.
Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
We have to understand the role of modern society.
Maybe the parents were just working with a busy life
like everyone with a basic job ?Every industry should be regulated there isn't nothing to say more.
The industry can't regulate itself. It's clear that some rules should be added
In my country (EU- Italy) they have made illegal promo on tv for all betting service since there was an aggressive promotion all day long in all channels at all time.
Well ultimately the one to blame would be the person involved themselves, the rest are just third parties with some degree of influence to the party involved, emphasis on the "some". Sure parents can actively involve themselves in educating their kid, but in the end, it would still be the kid themselves who would decide if he would do something or not. As I said in a previous thread before, influence can be long-lasting but at the same time, it could also be not. A person can choose what they can be influenced on imo.
If only parents did a good thing to their kids, the kids will also do the same but as you said it cant be long-lasting, I think I can agree with that. It's not only our parents that we see around us so we can also get other/different kinds of influences including the bad ones.You are right again that it's up to the person if he will follow the bad influence that he heard on the people around him or he will stay the same, following the right things that his people taught him before. Sometimes it's hard to monitor kids because they can be wiser than their parents. They can sneak gambling anytime and they can lie as well so their parents will have no idea what their kids are going through.
This was a tragedy. It's understandable parents blame the gambling industry, because they are too hurted by the death of their son and the so many years battling against addiction. These people aren't in emotional conditions to argue anything about this topic.
And sadly, the young man felt too guilty, shameful and hopeless for his addiction that he ended his own life.
It's hard to say how this could be avoided, because we don't really know how it was the relationship he had with parents, friends and the treatment he was having access to. The only known fact at this point is the pain the family is feeling for this tragedy.
And sadly, the young man felt too guilty, shameful and hopeless for his addiction that he ended his own life.
It's hard to say how this could be avoided, because we don't really know how it was the relationship he had with parents, friends and the treatment he was having access to. The only known fact at this point is the pain the family is feeling for this tragedy.
When the situation is too damn hard, you really can blame anyone that you see.
It's always gambling that has this result when people turns an event to something bad.
Very right. We cannot blame parents because their kid did something wrong. I dont think any parent would want their kid to do anything wrong, having said this parent are not alway seeing and keeping eye on their kids. The choices made by the kids are solely their own free will. One something is done wrong - blame game starts. The parents are already in trouble let's not make thing worse for them. And may God show us all the right path. Ameen
That's victim blaming and it's understandable why they're having that feeling. It's really a choice of free will and any choice being done by the kid, he's aware of the possible consequences that he might receive after gambling. It's always gambling that has this result when people turns an event to something bad.
The blame game should only be on us, parents are to be blamed if they'll allow their children to gamble or if they have no idea their children are gambling. It's a matter of responsibility, we all know that gambling is risky, and gambling without understanding the risk will most likely result to a devastated life.
We can't blame the family or the game, it was all the factors together. We should ask ourselves what happen in his mind to take the suicidal decision and we can be sure it was more than 1 factor. We don't know about the Debts he had or how much was his total loss with gambling. But when someone takes a decision as this guy did, it's because things were really fucked up.
Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
Many similar situations have already arisen in the world. It is difficult to point to one culprit. Problem gamblers create a world for themselves, and also seem to handle it professionally to keep it as hidden as possible. You also want to give your child some confidence. And if no alarm bells are ringing, try and find out. Often the parents are also completely unfamiliar with online gambling, because it was much less popular in their time. It is difficult to understand someone who is a gambling addict if you are not sensitive to it yourself.
The problem is that a lot of the times, the gambling industry gets a lot of flak for when things do go wrong.
And the blame as you said is disproportionately laid on the operators, who are simply providing a service, as compared to other factors like intrinsic motivation of the person themselves.
A casino should be compliant with all rules and regulations of the jurisdiction they reside in, including any sort of voluntary exclusion principles. But just with any service, there is room for abuse and unfortunately not all cases can be prevented.
And the blame as you said is disproportionately laid on the operators, who are simply providing a service, as compared to other factors like intrinsic motivation of the person themselves.
A casino should be compliant with all rules and regulations of the jurisdiction they reside in, including any sort of voluntary exclusion principles. But just with any service, there is room for abuse and unfortunately not all cases can be prevented.
Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
You could blame them off or not because this is very situational because there are really instances that parenting isnt the issue because there are children which had been taught on the right wayWhy not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
but still ending up on avoiding it and goes on things due to some influence from other people like his classmates or what which parenting could neither be effective or not but its ttue that
being monitored is part of responsible parenting but it wouldnt really be that 100% that you could able to avoid such instances because not all children will be having that kind of
behavior towards on how they do react on things.
If the parents knew that he was getting addicted then they should have sought better options for him but it's highlighted in the text that they didn't have much choice in that section since the therapy and other medical options are not very effective. I do think this can vary country to country as well also based on the economic situation of every person who can afford the treatment or no.
First and foremost I do think instead of sliding it away one should consider taking care of the whole situation and educating the kids at a considerable age, which also means finding out the red flags and working according to them, making sure they know what it is and what they are doing. It's not just the fault of gambling industry but of the parents, the medical care available and ofc the guy who died as well.
First and foremost I do think instead of sliding it away one should consider taking care of the whole situation and educating the kids at a considerable age, which also means finding out the red flags and working according to them, making sure they know what it is and what they are doing. It's not just the fault of gambling industry but of the parents, the medical care available and ofc the guy who died as well.
For all parent need controlling about your kids and exactly when your kids have know about internet site and know with cryptocurrency or have access with gambling site, let her your kids keep study and educate them with risk when start gambling because they can't loss everything. Before late better give education for our kids keep away from gambling site and ask them keep them on good moment for playing with their friend and give them more busy with studying than become kids gambler.
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like I said before on the previous thread that was locked. "I agree with the parents regarding the inadequate gambling treatment and medicines but it is unfair to solely blame everything on it.". but solely blaming the parents is also unfair. a lot of factors could contribute as to why they weren't able to monitor their son's activity. also judging by the article it seems that did they seek help once knew about the problem. 
The blame game should only be on us, parents are to be blamed if they'll allow their children to gamble or if they have no idea their children are gambling. It's a matter of responsibility, we all know that gambling is risky, and gambling without understanding the risk will most likely result to a devastated life.
We can't blame the family or the game, it was all the factors together. We should ask ourselves what happen in his mind to take the suicidal decision and we can be sure it was more than 1 factor. We don't know about the Debts he had or how much was his total loss with gambling. But when someone takes a decision as this guy did, it's because things were really fucked up.
The blame game should only be on us, parents are to be blamed if they'll allow their children to gamble or if they have no idea their children are gambling. It's a matter of responsibility, we all know that gambling is risky, and gambling without understanding the risk will most likely result to a devastated life.
Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have been raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have been taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it negligence on parents' behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have been raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have been taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it negligence on parents' behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
As for me, parents have a huge part and negligence in what happened to their son. Yes, they might be too busy pursuing their duties and responsibility as parents but they should have enlightened their child as early as possible about the risks of gambling. They should have told him the possible things that might happen due to gambling addiction. It's hard to monitor kids 24/7 but we should also be aware of what they're doing. It might be hard but a 16-year-old boy still need to be guided
We can't be pouring the total blame on the parent. At 16 the teen is open to diverse source information and has full choice on which to follow but a close guidance from his parents would have saved the lad who knows. It's unfortunate he had no one to disclose the possible dangers of gambling addiction which he ended up been a big victim of.
We live in an era where information make children adamant and as long as the internet exist if parents fail to follow the trend they might lose control of their wards because this wards will always feel their parents are out of fashion and as such lack the right advice at the moment
We live in an era where information make children adamant and as long as the internet exist if parents fail to follow the trend they might lose control of their wards because this wards will always feel their parents are out of fashion and as such lack the right advice at the moment
Let me also quote from this article that were posted.... “As the mental health charity Mind and others acknowledge, the reasons behind any suicide are ‘complex and can have lots of different causes’."
So, he might have had depression from other things that went wrong in his life and gambling was just one way to handle that. (Like people that turn to alcohol, when things go bad)
I can understand that the parents want to lash out at someone to shift the blame, but each individual case has it's own merit. How many old or lonely people gamble to stop them from going into depression? (They go to a casino to mingle and socialize with other people)
So, he might have had depression from other things that went wrong in his life and gambling was just one way to handle that. (Like people that turn to alcohol, when things go bad)
I can understand that the parents want to lash out at someone to shift the blame, but each individual case has it's own merit. How many old or lonely people gamble to stop them from going into depression? (They go to a casino to mingle and socialize with other people)
People turn to gambling, as an outlet for their depression, it's actually the depression that causes it, and the depression manifested more when the person started losing more and cannot keep up with losing they do not know how to address losing like when they do not know how to address depression, depression kills and gambling is not a place to release your depression, you will suffer more.
That's correct; addiction to drugs or alcohol is comparable. I have a friend who suffers from depression and uses alcoholic beverages and going to casinos to get drunk, he comes from a wealthy family so money is not a concern for him, he spends a lot of money on both, but after his parents noticed it, they took him to the doctor, who determined that he had an depression and that he should be taking medications, During this difficult time, I believe that parents should be the first to lend a shoulder, and I agree that gambling is not the answer; in fact, it only serves to exacerbate the problem.
Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
I completely agree,when parents are not careful to monitor all the activities of their children things can precipitate pretty quickly and these kind of scenarios can become common ones.I understand that some type of parents want to leave their children free to a certain point to inflict in their education the critical value that freedom has but not overdo it like in this case maybe.I am personally a new parent,have my 2 year old daughter and I always tend to leave her free and I will keep behaving the same even when she becomes a teenager of course being always there to guide her to the righteous things.I also partly blame the parents but the people with whom this person has as friends are also responsible for this.In the end this kind of the situations are always the most critical needing a lot of specialized help from different departments to make this person quit gambling and we all know how difficult is to do that once you become addicted to it.
If you look at the factor after his child reaches 16, it is a decision that the child is already aware of. So don't completely blame the parents. But also the child must be responsible for what he takes regarding gambling. At the age of 16 and above, usually psychological development is always wanting to try new things. Meanwhile, the lack of parental supervision, the environment, and friends around also affect what the child does.
Identification of the environment and daily interactions will find a bright point that every parent gives freedom to children who have started to reach adulthood.
Identification of the environment and daily interactions will find a bright point that every parent gives freedom to children who have started to reach adulthood.
But so far if we will look back at the time where the parent's guardian is still needed by the child and they been able to monitor him at least close monitor they can control their child's action and can influence their child's decisions. I am not totally blaming the parents but I can say that they play a vital role in shaping their child's development, while also considering the influence of the child's environment, circle of friends, and others. This time, a 16 year old child being psychologically diagnosed as gambling addict needs a close monitor and help by the psychiatrist and of course with the cooperation of the child to be treated.
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