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Topic: [Block Erupter Blade (New Model)]Low Price, Limited Quantity - page 9. (Read 40000 times)

hero member
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Ah, yes, you can have it now, you just get $^%&#^ in the process.  It's been true ever since May 4th when the 1.99BTC erupters came out, why should it be any different now?  Spare me your sanctimonious crap, it's still highway robbery.
Huh? How is 10 GH/s for 4 BTC delivered immediately highway robbery? That's the same price as a BFL pre-order due to ship in "2 or more months".

 I'm looking at this as "100 GH/s for less than 40 BTC" and am seriously thinking of pulling the trigger. Have an inquiry in with one of the resellers.

yeah I hear ya, its one of the best deals out there atm and u can get the HW within a week or so...hopefully!
Theres a chance of it actually making ROI....

No, there is no chance.

Next difficulty will be over 100mm, and who knows what the one after that will be. 200mm?

So, yes, go ahead and buy. If you live at home, in a dorm,or use your employers resources, you'll see some coins come in. But at this point it's all dead money. In not too much longer the bitcoin experiment is going to wind up showing conclusively why central authorities are valuable for economies.

With the fed, sure, money gets printed. But everyone knows how much there is and trusts that the fed wont be irresponsible and dump too many dollars on the market at once. In bitcoin land, yes, we all know how many coins are in circulation. But all the ASIC vendors are displaying zero responsibility towards the network. You can't bash the fed for printing dollars and cheer the waterfall of Asics hurting the market; it's the same process, except one is charged with trying to promote stability and the others are all driven by short term profits, the effects of all those chips hitting the network be damned

Again, I'd love someone to change my mind, but its becoming more and more clear by the day that this experiment is on the. Edge of failing.
legendary
Activity: 3878
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Since my opinion has not changed since I made my purchase, why should I demand a refund when I knew the story before I bought?  *I* knew I'd be using my GPU regardless of the electricity cost just as I'll be using the Jalapeno regardless of the return.  *I'm* not buying with my eyes full of $$$$ and I could care less about short term RoI.  I made an investment, and in the long run, I believe my investment will pay off more than yours.  I barely had 2BTC in hand back in June, instead of spending it, I invested it.  I made my purchase with USD, which I could not have done to get the USB.  Let's check what would have happened if I had bought the USB with my 2BTC... I'd have spent 1.99BTC ($250) for a USB device and I'd have gotten less than .75BTC in return (I've had 300MH pointed at BTC guild since I placed my order and as of today that is at 0.66456736 BTC. Multiply by 1.11 and you get .73766977BTC).  So, today I'd have ~1.4BTC and a shiny trinket.  What do I have today?  5.3BTC and an order 15 times as powerful.  Yea, I sure was stupid, wasn't I?  NOT!

WTF are you talking about? I'm talking about placing an order today. You call 10 GH/s for 4 BTC delivery in maybe a week, "highway robbery". What do you call BFL's 5 GH/s for 2 BTC delivered in "2 or more months"?
legendary
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One back-plane will be provided per ten Block Erupter Blade (New Model).

Is a purchase of 10 minimum to get the backplane? or when ordering any number between 1-10 will you get a backplane?
legendary
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★ Ⓚ KORE TEAM Ⓚ ★

 One back-plane will be provided per ten Block Erupter Blade (New Model).


Will there be an option to purchase back planes separately?

The resellers may not have enough for those wanting to use the backplane for 4-8 Blades.
sr. member
Activity: 406
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Greed is what got humankind where it is. Greed is the engine pushing us forward. Embrace the greed! :-)
hero member
Activity: 532
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I cannot get them right this second or this week, no.  But that still does not make the prices not highway robbery.

So you agree BFL prices are highway robbery too. Why would you keep an order with them if you consider it highway robbery?
Since my opinion has not changed since I made my purchase, why should I demand a refund when I knew the story before I bought?  *I* knew I'd be using my GPU regardless of the electricity cost just as I'll be using the Jalapeno regardless of the return.  *I'm* not buying with my eyes full of $$$$ and I could care less about short term RoI.  I made an investment, and in the long run, I believe my investment will pay off more than yours.  I barely had 2BTC in hand back in June, instead of spending it, I invested it.  I made my purchase with USD, which I could not have done to get the USB.  Let's check what would have happened if I had bought the USB with my 2BTC... I'd have spent 1.99BTC ($250) for a USB device and I'd have gotten less than .75BTC in return (I've had 300MH pointed at BTC guild since I placed my order and as of today that is at 0.66456736 BTC. Multiply by 1.11 and you get .73766977BTC).  So, today I'd have ~1.4BTC and a shiny trinket.  What do I have today?  5.3BTC and an order 15 times as powerful.  Yea, I sure was stupid, wasn't I?  NOT!
hero member
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I cannot get them right this second or this week, no.  But that still does not make the prices not highway robbery.

So you agree BFL prices are highway robbery too. Why would you keep an order with them if you consider it highway robbery?

There's really no point for anyone to buy anything ASIC related. Really. The chips are so cheap to produce but have incredibly levels of markup, no one will turn a profit save for the people selling the shovels. Everyone loves to whip on BFL, but the fact is if their gear isn't profitable, absolutely no one else's is either. It's essentially games over time; the difference between production cost and shipping price of Asics is too great, enabling a huge flood of chips to the market that make it impossible for anyone to earn a return.

So what do we do now? Beg for higher btc prices to save the system? Hope that people run unprofitable operations so that transactions can process? I don't know an answer, but its clear to me that the evolution to Asics was one of greed only (no, it never was about protecting the network), and now it threatens to take down the whole system.

No one even has a clue how much hashing power is in the fabs right now. It's impossible to build any form of projections without that simplest piece of information. I'm sorry, but there's no way that I can see this situation being explained to actually be a positive for the coin...
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1002
Ah, yes, you can have it now, you just get $^%&#^ in the process.  It's been true ever since May 4th when the 1.99BTC erupters came out, why should it be any different now?  Spare me your sanctimonious crap, it's still highway robbery.
Huh? How is 10 GH/s for 4 BTC delivered immediately highway robbery? That's the same price as a BFL pre-order due to ship in "2 or more months".

 I'm looking at this as "100 GH/s for less than 40 BTC" and am seriously thinking of pulling the trigger. Have an inquiry in with one of the resellers.

yeah I hear ya, its one of the best deals out there atm and u can get the HW within a week or so...hopefully!
Theres a chance of it actually making ROI....
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
Ah, yes, you can have it now, you just get $^%&#^ in the process.  It's been true ever since May 4th when the 1.99BTC erupters came out, why should it be any different now?  Spare me your sanctimonious crap, it's still highway robbery.
Huh? How is 10 GH/s for 4 BTC delivered immediately highway robbery? That's the same price as a BFL pre-order due to ship in "2 or more months".

 I'm looking at this as "100 GH/s for less than 40 BTC" and am seriously thinking of pulling the trigger. Have an inquiry in with one of the resellers.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Everyone says they need to inform the clueless about BFL's practices.  I am only doing the same about these.  If you shout down the logic you are condoning the practice of ripping people off for profit.  If people have been warned and still buy, then there is nothing I can do but say "I warned you".

How noble of you, but you seem to be going through contortions of logic in an effort to ignore the glaringly obvious.

If a customer receives the product ordered, in the condition described, at the price agreed upon, delivered at the agreed upon time...then there is no robbery...highway or otherwise. Whether this is a good deal or not and whether it will provide a positive ROI is open for debate, but calling this "highway robbery" is ridiculous and makes you sound rather silly.
newbie
Activity: 53
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Does it operate with CGminer and P2Pool, or same embedded software as in "old" Blade?
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
I cannot get them right this second or this week, no.  But that still does not make the prices not highway robbery.

So you agree BFL prices are highway robbery too. Why would you keep an order with them if you consider it highway robbery?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
should it be any different now?  Spare me your sanctimonious crap, it's still highway robbery.

Come on dude, it's not like you are forced to buy these.  If you don't like the deal, you just don't buy.  Nobody robs you.

Everyone says they need to inform the clueless about BFL's practices.  I am only doing the same about these.  If you shout down the logic you are condoning the practice of ripping people off for profit.  If people have been warned and still buy, then there is nothing I can do but say "I warned you".
full member
Activity: 182
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Swiss Money all around me!
They look so...Blue?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Is the picture accurate?  Are you using 32 chips to get 10GH?

I imagine...

32*.336GH= 10.752GH
Seems like a lot of unnecessary expense... 32 chips vs 3-4 from other concerns for the same hash rate.  I can't see get 10x as many chips for the same or less money.

Please show me where you can get brand new ASIC miner delivered to you in a week.
Ah, yes, you can have it now, you just get $^%&#^ in the process.  It's been true ever since May 4th when the 1.99BTC erupters came out, why should it be any different now?  Spare me your sanctimonious crap, it's still highway robbery.

You're saying you can get 10x less chips for same hashrate and same money. I'm saying you can't. I am right, you are saying bullshit.
I cannot get them right this second or this week, no.  But that still does not make the prices not highway robbery.  None of the USBs will ever earn the BTC spent on them.  This unit may *barely* make the BTC cost back, but that's only if more and more of the other companies default and don't ship on time.  You can paint it any way you like, it's still highway robbery.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
should it be any different now?  Spare me your sanctimonious crap, it's still highway robbery.

Come on dude, it's not like you are forced to buy these.  If you don't like the deal, you just don't buy.  Nobody robs you.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
Ah, yes, you can have it now, you just get $^%&#^ in the process.  It's been true ever since May 4th when the 1.99BTC erupters came out, why should it be any different now?  Spare me your sanctimonious crap, it's still highway robbery.

Huh? How is 10 GH/s for 4 BTC delivered immediately highway robbery? That's the same price as a BFL pre-order due to ship in "2 or more months".
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Is the picture accurate?  Are you using 32 chips to get 10GH?

I imagine...

32*.336GH= 10.752GH
Seems like a lot of unnecessary expense... 32 chips vs 3-4 from other concerns for the same hash rate.  I can't see get 10x as many chips for the same or less money.

Please show me where you can get brand new ASIC miner delivered to you in a week.
Ah, yes, you can have it now, you just get $^%&#^ in the process.  It's been true ever since May 4th when the 1.99BTC erupters came out, why should it be any different now?  Spare me your sanctimonious crap, it's still highway robbery.

You're saying you can get 10x less chips for same hashrate and same money. I'm saying you can't. I am right, you are saying bullshit.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Is the picture accurate?  Are you using 32 chips to get 10GH?

I imagine...

32*.336GH= 10.752GH
Seems like a lot of unnecessary expense... 32 chips vs 3-4 from other concerns for the same hash rate.  I can't see get 10x as many chips for the same or less money.

Please show me where you can get brand new ASIC miner delivered to you in a week.
Ah, yes, you can have it now, you just get $^%&#^ in the process.  It's been true ever since May 4th when the 1.99BTC erupters came out, why should it be any different now?  Spare me your sanctimonious crap, it's still highway robbery.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Is the picture accurate?  Are you using 32 chips to get 10GH?

I imagine...

32*.336GH= 10.752GH
Seems like a lot of unnecessary expense... 32 chips vs 3-4 from other concerns for the same hash rate.  I can't see get 10x as many chips for the same or less money.

Please show me where you can get brand new ASIC miner delivered to you in a week.
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