Blowing the lid off the CryptoNote/Bytecoin scam (with the exception of Monero) - page 8.

TaylorFade

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Quote from: JennifeSmith on September 12, 2017, 08:59:57 AM

The question on my mind now is how the heck Bytecoin still has a 5 million dollar marketcap. Grin

This is why I chimed in. I'm trying to tell y'all that from a random outsider's perspective... nobody gives a shit if the goddamn whitepaper was copy/pasted. ZOMG!!! Conspiracy!

Don't care. People see that it costs less than a penny, was the first CryptoNote and it's got a cool name. They're thinking maybe they're getting in on the ground floor of something since they missed out on BitCoin. And even if they read this thread (they won't), maybe they will get the same impression that I did. Not that there's anything wrong with Monero or its team. I've done some reading on XMR and it looks awesome. I know privacy coins are going to be a big deal and I hold some Verge (ask me why).

Fluffy and Smooth represented Monero very, very well in this thread. Very knowledgeable and professional. Kudos. The coin just doesn't get me all warm and fuzzy even though I have my CPU chewing on XMR.

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The question on my mind now is how the heck Bytecoin still has a 5 million dollar marketcap. Grin

TaylorFade

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Quote from: jwinterm on September 12, 2017, 08:42:51 AM

OK, then buy some Bytecoins and enjoy the scam.

Well, I'm not exactly gonna reroute my 401k, but let me ask y'all this... if I were to just mine them or be on the network or whatever... am I (or anyone else) in any danger of "being scammed" or exposed somehow?

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Quote from: TaylorFade on September 12, 2017, 07:58:34 AM

Quote from: jwinterm on September 11, 2017, 07:54:01 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on September 11, 2017, 07:19:38 PM

Quote from: TaylorFade on September 11, 2017, 02:33:24 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on September 11, 2017, 02:17:03 PM

Quote from: TaylorFade on September 11, 2017, 02:01:19 PM

I'm nobody and don't know shit about shit. I hold neither BCN nor XMR but thought I would give my two Satoshi after spending entirely too much time reading the whole thread from beginning to end in one sitting.

What an entertaining storyline! I'm not sure why, but I find myself rooting for Bytecoin here. Maybe because they're the underdog in this story. Or maybe the Monero guys are a little too "smooth" or "fluffy". I can't put my finger on it, but I get the feeling CN/BCN is/was a group of "old school" geniuses and XMR is a bunch of ego-maniacal prep school millennials.

Or maybe I just don't like Monero's stupid logo. I dunno. Either way... Team BCN!

Go go, Bytecoin!

Stupid sockpuppet name you chose there, Do you really think anyone believes the load of horseshit you just spat out?

Lol. It's the same username I use across all of social media. None of which have anything to do with crypto (you're welcome to search it). Like I said... I'm nobody. Just thought I would offer an "outsider's" view of the sitch. Which, obviously, isn't worth much.

Can I change my username? If so, may I have "Sockpuppet"?

Link them.

Lightly used two year old pothead account on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/taylorfade

Very lightly used seven year old twitter account: https://twitter.com/TaylorFade

Lightly used G+ account: https://plus.google.com/113811220399612247019

No youtube account. No facebook account.

What's the other social medias? Shitcointalk?

Lol! That's definitely not me on Reddit.

That's me on Twitter. But I don't really "get" Twitter so I don't use it much (obviously). Have IG also, but I find myself just posting the same shit as I do on FB so it's not very busy either.

That's me on Google.

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/TaylorFade187

FB: https://www.facebook.com/taylor.fade.3

Here's a 5 year old, nine thousand reply "ask me anything" thread on what used to be my home forum. Before FB groups killed the forums.
http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/general-car-audio-discussion-questions/128204-ask-t-fade-anything.html

As you can see... my passion is mobile audio. And like I said... I'm nobody.

Not everyone that disagrees with your point of view is a shill or a sockpuppet. Y'all should probably get used to random, ignorant people like me visiting and chiming in as crypto becomes more mainstream. I know you all are really looking forward to that.

OK, then buy some Bytecoins and enjoy the scam.

TaylorFade

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Quote from: jwinterm on September 11, 2017, 07:54:01 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on September 11, 2017, 07:19:38 PM

Quote from: TaylorFade on September 11, 2017, 02:33:24 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on September 11, 2017, 02:17:03 PM

Quote from: TaylorFade on September 11, 2017, 02:01:19 PM

I'm nobody and don't know shit about shit. I hold neither BCN nor XMR but thought I would give my two Satoshi after spending entirely too much time reading the whole thread from beginning to end in one sitting.

What an entertaining storyline! I'm not sure why, but I find myself rooting for Bytecoin here. Maybe because they're the underdog in this story. Or maybe the Monero guys are a little too "smooth" or "fluffy". I can't put my finger on it, but I get the feeling CN/BCN is/was a group of "old school" geniuses and XMR is a bunch of ego-maniacal prep school millennials.

Or maybe I just don't like Monero's stupid logo. I dunno. Either way... Team BCN!

Go go, Bytecoin!

Stupid sockpuppet name you chose there, Do you really think anyone believes the load of horseshit you just spat out?

Lol. It's the same username I use across all of social media. None of which have anything to do with crypto (you're welcome to search it). Like I said... I'm nobody. Just thought I would offer an "outsider's" view of the sitch. Which, obviously, isn't worth much.

Can I change my username? If so, may I have "Sockpuppet"?

Link them.

Lightly used two year old pothead account on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/taylorfade

Very lightly used seven year old twitter account: https://twitter.com/TaylorFade

Lightly used G+ account: https://plus.google.com/113811220399612247019

No youtube account. No facebook account.

What's the other social medias? Shitcointalk?

Lol! That's definitely not me on Reddit.

That's me on Twitter. But I don't really "get" Twitter so I don't use it much (obviously). Have IG also, but I find myself just posting the same shit as I do on FB so it's not very busy either.

That's me on Google.

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/TaylorFade187

FB: https://www.facebook.com/taylor.fade.3

Here's a 5 year old, nine thousand reply "ask me anything" thread on what used to be my home forum. Before FB groups killed the forums.
http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/general-car-audio-discussion-questions/128204-ask-t-fade-anything.html

As you can see... my passion is mobile audio. And like I said... I'm nobody.

Not everyone that disagrees with your point of view is a shill or a sockpuppet. Y'all should probably get used to random, ignorant people like me visiting and chiming in as crypto becomes more mainstream. I know you all are really looking forward to that.

jwinterm

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Quote from: Hueristic on September 11, 2017, 07:19:38 PM

Quote from: TaylorFade on September 11, 2017, 02:33:24 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on September 11, 2017, 02:17:03 PM

Quote from: TaylorFade on September 11, 2017, 02:01:19 PM

I'm nobody and don't know shit about shit. I hold neither BCN nor XMR but thought I would give my two Satoshi after spending entirely too much time reading the whole thread from beginning to end in one sitting.

What an entertaining storyline! I'm not sure why, but I find myself rooting for Bytecoin here. Maybe because they're the underdog in this story. Or maybe the Monero guys are a little too "smooth" or "fluffy". I can't put my finger on it, but I get the feeling CN/BCN is/was a group of "old school" geniuses and XMR is a bunch of ego-maniacal prep school millennials.

Or maybe I just don't like Monero's stupid logo. I dunno. Either way... Team BCN!

Go go, Bytecoin!

Stupid sockpuppet name you chose there, Do you really think anyone believes the load of horseshit you just spat out?

Lol. It's the same username I use across all of social media. None of which have anything to do with crypto (you're welcome to search it). Like I said... I'm nobody. Just thought I would offer an "outsider's" view of the sitch. Which, obviously, isn't worth much.

Can I change my username? If so, may I have "Sockpuppet"?

Link them.

Lightly used two year old pothead account on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/taylorfade

Very lightly used seven year old twitter account: https://twitter.com/TaylorFade

Lightly used G+ account: https://plus.google.com/113811220399612247019

No youtube account. No facebook account.

What's the other social medias? Shitcointalk?

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: TaylorFade on September 11, 2017, 02:33:24 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on September 11, 2017, 02:17:03 PM

Quote from: TaylorFade on September 11, 2017, 02:01:19 PM

I'm nobody and don't know shit about shit. I hold neither BCN nor XMR but thought I would give my two Satoshi after spending entirely too much time reading the whole thread from beginning to end in one sitting.

What an entertaining storyline! I'm not sure why, but I find myself rooting for Bytecoin here. Maybe because they're the underdog in this story. Or maybe the Monero guys are a little too "smooth" or "fluffy". I can't put my finger on it, but I get the feeling CN/BCN is/was a group of "old school" geniuses and XMR is a bunch of ego-maniacal prep school millennials.

Or maybe I just don't like Monero's stupid logo. I dunno. Either way... Team BCN!

Go go, Bytecoin!

Stupid sockpuppet name you chose there, Do you really think anyone believes the load of horseshit you just spat out?

Lol. It's the same username I use across all of social media. None of which have anything to do with crypto (you're welcome to search it). Like I said... I'm nobody. Just thought I would offer an "outsider's" view of the sitch. Which, obviously, isn't worth much.

Can I change my username? If so, may I have "Sockpuppet"?

Link them.

TaylorFade

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Quote from: Hueristic on September 11, 2017, 02:17:03 PM

Quote from: TaylorFade on September 11, 2017, 02:01:19 PM

I'm nobody and don't know shit about shit. I hold neither BCN nor XMR but thought I would give my two Satoshi after spending entirely too much time reading the whole thread from beginning to end in one sitting.

What an entertaining storyline! I'm not sure why, but I find myself rooting for Bytecoin here. Maybe because they're the underdog in this story. Or maybe the Monero guys are a little too "smooth" or "fluffy". I can't put my finger on it, but I get the feeling CN/BCN is/was a group of "old school" geniuses and XMR is a bunch of ego-maniacal prep school millennials.

Or maybe I just don't like Monero's stupid logo. I dunno. Either way... Team BCN!

Go go, Bytecoin!

Stupid sockpuppet name you chose there, Do you really think anyone believes the load of horseshit you just spat out?

Lol. It's the same username I use across all of social media. None of which have anything to do with crypto (you're welcome to search it). Like I said... I'm nobody. Just thought I would offer an "outsider's" view of the sitch. Which, obviously, isn't worth much.

Can I change my username? If so, may I have "Sockpuppet"?

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: TaylorFade on September 11, 2017, 02:01:19 PM

I'm nobody and don't know shit about shit. I hold neither BCN nor XMR but thought I would give my two Satoshi after spending entirely too much time reading the whole thread from beginning to end in one sitting.

What an entertaining storyline! I'm not sure why, but I find myself rooting for Bytecoin here. Maybe because they're the underdog in this story. Or maybe the Monero guys are a little too "smooth" or "fluffy". I can't put my finger on it, but I get the feeling CN/BCN is/was a group of "old school" geniuses and XMR is a bunch of ego-maniacal prep school millennials.

Or maybe I just don't like Monero's stupid logo. I dunno. Either way... Team BCN!

Go go, Bytecoin!

Stupid sockpuppet name you chose there, Do you really think anyone believes the load of horseshit you just spat out?

TaylorFade

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I'm nobody and don't know shit about shit. I hold neither BCN nor XMR but thought I would give my two Satoshi after spending entirely too much time reading the whole thread from beginning to end in one sitting.

What an entertaining storyline! I'm not sure why, but I find myself rooting for Bytecoin here. Maybe because they're the underdog in this story. Or maybe the Monero guys are a little too "smooth" or "fluffy". I can't put my finger on it, but I get the feeling CN/BCN is/was a group of "old school" geniuses and XMR is a bunch of ego-maniacal prep school millennials.

Or maybe I just don't like Monero's stupid logo. I dunno. Either way... Team BCN!

Go go, Bytecoin!

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thefuzzstone.github.io

A couple of months ago this article was translated into Russian, at time to time some new forum users saying in a comments that this article is paid and another stuff like that.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

The continuation of the story together with the Bcn team's attempts to reply:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bcn-bytecoin-secure-private-untraceable-since-2012-512747

I've upped the pressure on "Jenny G", the "new" face of the BCN scam. Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.21023736

Baehr123456789

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Great work, of which the number should not be understated, on the OP. you should try

Foster456

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Hey!!! Very nice and helpful to you on this topic

Sullivan456

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I feel relieved with Monero and stable

lethos3

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the timestamps on the bytecoin blockchain are weird, I'm talking about the second block:

https://minergate.com/blockchain/bcn/block/1
2012-07-04 05:00:00 (5 years ago)

wow such precision

its clear they faked the chain up to ~80% of the total emission.

compare with monero:

https://minergate.com/blockchain/xmr/block/1
2014-04-18 10:49:53 (3 years ago)

Melbustus

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^^
Thanks guys, appreciate the info.

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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com

Quote from: Melbustus on August 15, 2017, 09:24:57 PM

Has anyone estimated the amount of work required to fake the chain?

Using the benchmarks from here: https://www.servethehome.com/monero-mining-benchmarks-select-dual-intel-xeon-e5-systems/ we can figure that something like a Xeon E5-26870 V1 (available since March 2012) can do about 375h/s. As you can see in the image below, the Bytecoin hash rate averaged at like 1500h/s for the duration of its fake existence (about 20 months).

So basically if they had 8x of those CPUs they could've generated it in 10 months. And if they had 80x of them they could have done it in a month. Given the AWS cost at the beginning of 2014 it wouldn't have been insanely expensive to just use AWS for it; if I had to hazard a guess I'd say $20k or less in AWS cost.

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Quote from: Melbustus on August 15, 2017, 09:24:57 PM

Has anyone estimated the amount of work required to fake the chain?

It was tiny considering that the de-optimized miner was about 100x slower than a reasonable not-stupid one and 200x slower than a clever/optimized one. I don't know the numbers though.

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Has anyone estimated the amount of work required to fake the chain?

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