Ok the undercard between Filip Hgrovic vs Demsey McKean ended already as Hgrovic stop McKean in the 12th round. But it was an ugly fight and I was not impressed by the win of Filip Hgrovic.
He is going to be the IBF mandatory and will be waiting on the Oleksandr Usyk vs Daniel Dubois winner. But if this version shows in the next fight, I don't see Hgrovic whoever he faces between Usyk and Dubois.
Now it's the main event...
Topic: Boxing: Anthony Joshua vs Robert Helenius (replacement) - page 2. (Read 781 times)
So let's see if Joshua can finished him early as you have said, Helenius is not ready. But if by chance Helenius survived then we will have to question Joshua's heart again if he still has it. Otherwise, if he fought Wilder next, it could be the end of his career.
Yeah Joshua must win via KO against Helenius, Helenius isn't that strong. If Joshua can't win via KO, I'm really doubt he can win against Wilder or any other tough boxer in heavyweight, he's no longer young so this might be his last chance to get back become a champion in heavyweight division.Next we might see he's fighting with celebrity or artist in exhibition fight.
And Eddie Hearn says that Joshua should ignore all the noise about who they pick as a replacement, for Whyte and even says that he should knockout Helenius more impressively than what Wilder did to Joshua.
But here's where the weird thing is, If we will remember, AJ was supposed to fight, Jarrell Miller, but what caught with illegal substance in his system. So they scramble and find a replacement, and guess who's that replacement fighter is, - Andy Ruiz Jr.
So let's see if Joshua can finished him early as you have said, Helenius is not ready. But if by chance Helenius survived then we will have to question Joshua's heart again if he still has it. Otherwise, if he fought Wilder next, it could be the end of his career.
Yeah Joshua must win via KO against Helenius, Helenius isn't that strong. If Joshua can't win via KO, I'm really doubt he can win against Wilder or any other tough boxer in heavyweight, he's no longer young so this might be his last chance to get back become a champion in heavyweight division.Next we might see he's fighting with celebrity or artist in exhibition fight.
Obviously he is not a good replacement, but they will have to find a boxer that needs to cover and it just so happen that Helenius is there but then, not sure if he is battle ready or not.
Helenius is not a good replacement and he is not ready at all imho. Several days ago he had a fight against Mika Mielonen (a professional boxer with 6-1 record, but against poor boxers) and won, but Mika managed to get Helenius few times. If Helenius cant dodge, block punches from such average fighter and it took him 3 rounds to KO Mika, then Joshua gonna finish Helenius in first round, or in second, if sponsors would ask him for at least one advertisement to be aired during rounds
So let's see if Joshua can finished him early as you have said, Helenius is not ready. But if by chance Helenius survived then we will have to question Joshua's heart again if he still has it. Otherwise, if he fought Wilder next, it could be the end of his career.
Obviously he is not a good replacement, but they will have to find a boxer that needs to cover and it just so happen that Helenius is there but then, not sure if he is battle ready or not.
Helenius is not a good replacement and he is not ready at all imho. Several days ago he had a fight against Mika Mielonen (a professional boxer with 6-1 record, but against poor boxers) and won, but Mika managed to get Helenius few times. If Helenius cant dodge, block punches from such average fighter and it took him 3 rounds to KO Mika, then Joshua gonna finish Helenius in first round, or in second, if sponsors would ask him for at least one advertisement to be aired during rounds
That could indeed be a possibility, as AJ is seeking an impressive victory to reinvigorate his reputation. Many of the replacements are not top-tier boxers, often being seen as secondary options. While there are instances of surprise wins by replacements, such as Ugas against Pacman, it's important to understand that this isn't a championship fight. Consequently, I'm skeptical that Helenius could cause an upset in this scenario.
On a different note, we might witness AJ adopting a less aggressive approach, as excessive aggression could lead to carelessness and potential upsets. Instead, he might opt for a consistent strategy, which could possibly result in a late-round knockout.
Once AJ has already chosen an opponent for an impressive victory and lost devastatingly. I am speaking about Andy Ruiz Jr. vs AJ fight. Ruiz was also a replacement fighter that night. I would say that Ruiz was quite on a short notice, only 1 month to prepare. He managed to knockout AJ in 7th round. With Helenius, I dont think that the result might be surprising. On the paper it looks like he is no match for AJ.
Obviously he is not a good replacement, but they will have to find a boxer that needs to cover and it just so happen that Helenius is there but then, not sure if he is battle ready or not.
Helenius is not a good replacement and he is not ready at all imho. Several days ago he had a fight against Mika Mielonen (a professional boxer with 6-1 record, but against poor boxers) and won, but Mika managed to get Helenius few times. If Helenius cant dodge, block punches from such average fighter and it took him 3 rounds to KO Mika, then Joshua gonna finish Helenius in first round, or in second, if sponsors would ask him for at least one advertisement to be aired during rounds
That could indeed be a possibility, as AJ is seeking an impressive victory to reinvigorate his reputation. Many of the replacements are not top-tier boxers, often being seen as secondary options. While there are instances of surprise wins by replacements, such as Ugas against Pacman, it's important to understand that this isn't a championship fight. Consequently, I'm skeptical that Helenius could cause an upset in this scenario.
On a different note, we might witness AJ adopting a less aggressive approach, as excessive aggression could lead to carelessness and potential upsets. Instead, he might opt for a consistent strategy, which could possibly result in a late-round knockout.
Obviously he is not a good replacement, but they will have to find a boxer that needs to cover and it just so happen that Helenius is there but then, not sure if he is battle ready or not.
Helenius is not a good replacement and he is not ready at all imho. Several days ago he had a fight against Mika Mielonen (a professional boxer with 6-1 record, but against poor boxers) and won, but Mika managed to get Helenius few times. If Helenius cant dodge, block punches from such average fighter and it took him 3 rounds to KO Mika, then Joshua gonna finish Helenius in first round, or in second, if sponsors would ask him for at least one advertisement to be aired during rounds
AJ here has to understand that he is up for a big fight—'just win'—and then he can enjoy a big payday, even an undercard fight only.
He is slowly going up to the top. His losses to Usyk were really big and have affected his career, but I trust that his career in boxing is not yet over.AJ may go on to continue his career, especially since he is a big star in the UK. But I honestly doubt he can be champion again. AJ and Wilder have the puncher's chance to become champions again but other than that I doubt they can win a dominant fight without hurting their opponents first. Hopefully, these 2 will collide this December in Saudi Arabia as the rumors say. If AJ dominates and then stops this old and slow version of Helenius he could be the slight favorite over Wilder.
The heavyweight is once again getting boring unless the 2 champions face each other or retire.
Well if he can knockout Helenius then it might be good for his image or even boxing pundits will say that he did a great job, even more than Wilder. But if this is just a wild 12 round decision then for sure there will be a lot of criticism on the side of Joshua for not putting a replacement fighter and winning it easy.
AJ here has to understand that he is up for a big fight—'just win'—and then he can enjoy a big payday, even an undercard fight only.
He is slowly going up to the top. His losses to Usyk were really big and have affected his career, but I trust that his career in boxing is not yet over. Well if he can knockout Helenius then it might be good for his image or even boxing pundits will say that he did a great job, even more than Wilder. But if this is just a wild 12 round decision then for sure there will be a lot of criticism on the side of Joshua for not putting a replacement fighter and winning it easy.
AJ here has to understand that he is up for a big fight—'just win'—and then he can enjoy a big payday, even an undercard fight only.
Obviously he is not a good replacement, but they will have to find a boxer that needs to cover and it just so happen that Helenius is there but then, not sure if he is battle ready or not. I do agree between the two, Whyte has a better chances, but we all know what happens so Joshua will have to move forward.
What are the odds though? on the favorite sport bookies that I used, it seems that this fight has been de-listed.
So this is still a good fight for Joshua to overcome his mentality and win again.
Even if he beat Helenius it will not be as impressive as when he beat Whyte, Whyte is a real challenge to Joshua's comeback, his promoter, Hearns just picked a guy out of nowhere without thinking if the boxer can be a good preparation for his possible meeting with Wilder.
Joshua needs to be very impressive here, remember Wilder beat Hlenius with a punch knock out he needs to show to the boxing community that he is as impressive as Wilder, I honestly think this is a cherry-picked fight and not good for Joshua if he wants to challenge Wilder, I think after this fight he needs another tune fight and he should pick young and up and coming boxers or a more established fighter.
Well if he can knockout Helenius then it might be good for his image or even boxing pundits will say that he did a great job, even more than Wilder. But if this is just a wild 12 round decision then for sure there will be a lot of criticism on the side of Joshua for not putting a replacement fighter and winning it easy. 
Obviously he is not a good replacement, but they will have to find a boxer that needs to cover and it just so happen that Helenius is there but then, not sure if he is battle ready or not. I do agree between the two, Whyte has a better chances, but we all know what happens so Joshua will have to move forward.
What are the odds though? on the favorite sport bookies that I used, it seems that this fight has been de-listed.
So this is still a good fight for Joshua to overcome his mentality and win again.
Even if he beat Helenius it will not be as impressive as when he beat Whyte, Whyte is a real challenge to Joshua's comeback, his promoter, Hearns just picked a guy out of nowhere without thinking if the boxer can be a good preparation for his possible meeting with Wilder.
Joshua needs to be very impressive here, remember Wilder beat Hlenius with a punch knock out he needs to show to the boxing community that he is as impressive as Wilder, I honestly think this is a cherry-picked fight and not good for Joshua if he wants to challenge Wilder, I think after this fight he needs another tune fight and he should pick young and up and coming boxers or a more established fighter.
Update: Anthony Joshua sets Robert Helenius as replacement opponent for Dillian Whyte | 'I am a true Viking!'
AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same.
AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same.
I thought Helenius already retired after getting knocked out by Wilder, I doubt he is a good replacement but on the other hand, AJ will have a hard time because he is preparing against Whyte, and all of a sudden he is facing a new opponent, and he doesn't have enough time to adjust, we will see how tough AJ has become after his two losses against Usyk, if he is really a great boxer he can do adjustment in just a short period of time.
Anyway between Helenius and Whyte, Whyte is a better fighter but he still has to be cautious about what Robert Helenius is going to bring.
Obviously he is not a good replacement, but they will have to find a boxer that needs to cover and it just so happen that Helenius is there but then, not sure if he is battle ready or not. I do agree between the two, Whyte has a better chances, but we all know what happens so Joshua will have to move forward.
What are the odds though? on the favorite sport bookies that I used, it seems that this fight has been de-listed.
So this is still a good fight for Joshua to overcome his mentality and win again.
Update: Anthony Joshua sets Robert Helenius as replacement opponent for Dillian Whyte | 'I am a true Viking!'
AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same.
AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same.
I thought Helenius already retired after getting knocked out by Wilder, I doubt he is a good replacement but on the other hand, AJ will have a hard time because he is preparing against Whyte, and all of a sudden he is facing a new opponent, and he doesn't have enough time to adjust, we will see how tough AJ has become after his two losses against Usyk, if he is really a great boxer he can do adjustment in just a short period of time.
Anyway between Helenius and Whyte, Whyte is a better fighter but he still has to be cautious about what Robert Helenius is going to bring.
Update: Anthony Joshua sets Robert Helenius as replacement opponent for Dillian Whyte | 'I am a true Viking!'
AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same.
AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same.
Looking at his record, I can say that he has been in many battles already. However, the fact that he got KO'd by Wilder makes me think that he is not a worthy opponent of AJ, and that AJ could easily beat him. Probably, he will again experience a KO loss. Imagine if my prediction were to happen, then both AJ and Wilder would have KO'd this guy, whom they are going to face as an undercard in the Fury vs Usyk fight. I'm now thrilled.
I'm more concerned about his age; he is already 39 years old and not very active, as he only has one fight every year according to his record (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/451505). However, I hope AJ would not underestimate his opponent, as that might spoil his upcoming big fight with Wilder. We don't want to see a scenario like the Andy Ruiz vs AJ first fight, where AJ was KO'd.
For those who are curious with the betting odds, here it is.
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Betting Odds (Betway Sports)
1/6 Joshua
9/1 Helenius
20/1 Draw
1/6 Joshua
9/1 Helenius
20/1 Draw
https://www.britishboxingnews.co.uk/blogs/anthony-joshua-vs-robert-helenius-fight-details-time-date-tv-channel-undercard-venue-running-order-betting-odds-predictions-ring-walks-and-live-stream-info
Update: Anthony Joshua sets Robert Helenius as replacement opponent for Dillian Whyte | 'I am a true Viking!'
AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same.
AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same.
Looking at his record, I can say that he has been in many battles already. However, the fact that he got KO'd by Wilder makes me think that he is not a worthy opponent of AJ, and that AJ could easily beat him. Probably, he will again experience a KO loss. Imagine if my prediction were to happen, then both AJ and Wilder would have KO'd this guy, whom they are going to face as an undercard in the Fury vs Usyk fight. I'm now thrilled.
Update: Anthony Joshua sets Robert Helenius as replacement opponent for Dillian Whyte | 'I am a true Viking!'
AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same.
AJ is officially facing this weekend Robert Helenius, the guy that was KO'd in round 1 by Deontay Wilder in his last fight last year. Robert Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in 3rd round. So the undercards remained the same.
So this fight is called off after Dillian Whyte's samples went positive according to VADA. Rumors are that Matchroom is looking for a replacement to face AJ in the main event. We'll see if they can find someone willing to face AJ in a week's notice.
It is a huge disappointment to many of us who have looked forward to expecting to see AJ go against Dillian again for the third time. This is a really bad record for Dillian Whyte that will create a stereotype, he will most likely end up with a ban after the investigation has been carried out and he is found guilty, the ban may span a number of years.
Dillian claims to be innocent -
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“I can confirm without a shadow of doubt that I have not taken the reported substance, in this camp or at any point in my life. I am completely innocent and ask to be given the time to go through the process of proving this without anybody jumping to conclusions or a trial by media.”
source We will know more in a couple of days as more findings come to light.
Some years ago I heard rumors of Dillian Whyte not being clean. Whyte is a fighter who fatigues in the late rounds, this is probably the main reason why his team is trying to put something in his body to address his biggest flaw. A suspension will surely happen, but we'll see how long it will be. Whyte is not young anymore and he might bid goodbye to his dreams of getting a title fight.
The 3 possible replacements mentioned in the article seem too risky for AJ even if Wallin and Bakole are not training for real fights. I'm confident El Animal would destroy AJ left and right. This guy is being avoided like a plague by the big names for years already. Too bad he is getting his shot against Usyk, but still 50/50 IMO. Meanwhile, rumors are that the other fighters in the undercards are the ones targeted by AJ. Grandpas Derrick Chisora and Gerald Washington are the main possible replacements. I don't know what takes them long to announce it. DAZN and Matchroom are probably worried that these grandpas would make the PPV event fail but at the same time worried that their cash cow might lose if they are to replace someone decent.
Chisora for me is not a good replacement the guy is done it's going to be easy work for Joshua, why not proceed with the Wilder fight and make it a winner-take-all fight, whoever losses should retire, both fighters want a way up and both are highly motivated to remain on top, this is a money-making fight after all they are the hottest item 4 years ago.
Both of Joshua and Wilder will risk his career, I don't think both of them want to fight each other within short time preparation. If Chisora is replacing Whyte, then we can expect an easy KO by Joshua since Chisora is keep losing when he reach 36 years old.Maybe after this fight, we will see Joshua will fight with a strong boxer like Wilder or Fury.
Chisora for me is not a good replacement the guy is done it's going to be easy work for Joshua, why not proceed with the Wilder fight and make it a winner-take-all fight, whoever losses should retire, both fighters want a way up and both are highly motivated to remain on top, this is a money-making fight after all they are the hottest item 4 years ago.
I agree with your comment; cancel the fight and proceed to Wilder. Fans don't want to get robbed for the money they are paying, so promoters should provide a fight that is worth watching. I read before that Wilder vs AJ is the undercard for Fury vs Usyk. Maybe they just have to wait for the moment to happen. Right now, they have to finalize the contract and just start training. I'm sure the fight is going to happen within this year, right?Hearns wants Joshua to have good momentum 2 losses in a row are not good, and his win against Franklin is not enough to get his confidence back, Dillian Whyte can offer a good challenge Wilder is a very dangerous opponent, his last fight ended up with a big knock out against Robert Helenius.
I'm okay with Joshua picking up a new fighter before going against Wilder but I don't like Chisora, Chisora will not offer a challenge to Joshua, how about an up-and-coming fighter with good potential like Jared Anderson.
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