Boxing: Anthony Joshua vs Robert Helenius (replacement) - page 7.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 07, 2023, 10:40:06 AM

Very affordable for a PPV price. Though the betting odds are not yet out, I'm expecting that Anthony Joshu would be the heavy favorite since he is the younger boxer and had accomplish more compared to Dillian Whyte who are supposed to retire according to one of our posters here.

Yup, Anthony Joshua would still be the favorite here, the only thing that we have to discuss here is whether Whyte would survive the full twelve rounds as he was KOed by Joshua on their first meeting.

The thing here is that Joshua beat Whyte when the former was not beaten yet, I mean his confidence was still very high at that time but for me, at the present moment, it seems that Joshua's confidence is fading after that loss to Ruiz, that makes this fight interesting. Hearn wants to test Joshua before giving him a fight with Wilder.

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 07, 2023, 05:37:56 PM

Yes, I put up this fight on the other thread, Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions.

But it's good that we have a separate thread for discussion. I think Anthony Joshua is still going to beat Whyte in their rematch. Although we have seen Joshua's career going into the pipe right now with losses to Usyk and then his issues on getting a trainer, I think this fight could be just as what everyone is expecting, cherry pick and tune up fight for a big pay day fight coming in against Wilder.

So he shouldn't underestimate Whyte but then focus more on his offense and power because he will need it when he face Wilder in Saudi Arabia next. Joshua needs to be more technical here and throw his upper cut more because that is Whyte's weakness.

for sure, a lot will be rooting for joshua here. but as you said, he should not underestimate whyte as for sure, he wants to win this fight as well and may come well-prepared for this re-match. joshua is also highly favourite by bookies, no doubt. so don't know if whyte can have his sweet revenge on this match.
and we will see if this one is indeed is just a cherry pick for joshua. sometimes surprising results can happen so joshua's camp should take this seriously.

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Yes, I put up this fight on the other thread, Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions.

But it's good that we have a separate thread for discussion. I think Anthony Joshua is still going to beat Whyte in their rematch. Although we have seen Joshua's career going into the pipe right now with losses to Usyk and then his issues on getting a trainer, I think this fight could be just as what everyone is expecting, cherry pick and tune up fight for a big pay day fight coming in against Wilder.

So he shouldn't underestimate Whyte but then focus more on his offense and power because he will need it when he face Wilder in Saudi Arabia next. Joshua needs to be more technical here and throw his upper cut more because that is Whyte's weakness.

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Quote from: Bananington on July 07, 2023, 03:10:41 PM

Quote from: Shamm on July 07, 2023, 12:17:56 PM

Because this is their second fight which is we are all known that the underdog will want to prove who he is.

There will be more pressure now on Anthony Joshua to win the fight since his fight with Deontay Wilder, the fight we have all wanted to see will happen in December if Anthony Joshua is able to defeat Dillian Whyte, but if he does not win the fight, then the fight with Wilder will not happen. Anthony Joshua knows how dangerous Whyte can be, but he wanted something challenging before agreeing to this fight, so he will be prepared to give it his best and win it like he did before, if not by KO, by Unanimous decision.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1490745/anthony-joshua-deontay-wilder-locked-in-dillian-whyte/

There could be pressure, but he has defeated Whyte soundly before, so he might be thinking that this could be just another easy fight for him. But AJ should be careful as well not to overlook Whyte here, I think he still possesses that one punch knockout and AJ should try to avoid that right hand of Whyte otherwise he might see flashes of Ruiz fight again and then he will just be knockout or knockdown in the canvass.

But I still see AJ winning here, either by decision if the fight goes on the full 12 rounds and AJ having a hard time to knock Whyte out. Or AJ finding his rhythm and power once again and scoring a big KO.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 07, 2023, 08:33:56 AM

Obviously, DAZN wants to resurrect Joshua's career, if you suffer from two successive losses from championships and you have been beaten decisively you need a guy you have previously beaten to bring back your motivation to get back on the road again.
Joshua's career is on its way to oblivion if he losses this match, there is no fourth chance anymore Whyte can spoil Joshua's much-needed comeback.
Boxing fans whether they are fans or they are not fans of both boxers will have an interest in this fight because its a battle of who will stay and who will go.

Yes, they wanted to, Joshua needs another win to bring back his confidence, so they need to cherry pick again so that he will be on track after that 2 losses he got from Usyk.

Although in paper this fight looks good to me, but Dillian Whyte is like a good 4-5 rounder fighter. After that, he get's tired easy and that's where Joshua can get him and maybe score a knockout. Very wise move by Eddie Hearn here. So let's see if Whyte will be a willing participant here or he will just spoil Joshua and his future fight with Wilder.

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Quote from: Shamm on July 07, 2023, 12:17:56 PM

Because this is their second fight which is we are all known that the underdog will want to prove who he is.

There will be more pressure now on Anthony Joshua to win the fight since his fight with Deontay Wilder, the fight we have all wanted to see will happen in December if Anthony Joshua is able to defeat Dillian Whyte, but if he does not win the fight, then the fight with Wilder will not happen. Anthony Joshua knows how dangerous Whyte can be, but he wanted something challenging before agreeing to this fight, so he will be prepared to give it his best and win it like he did before, if not by KO, by Unanimous decision.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1490745/anthony-joshua-deontay-wilder-locked-in-dillian-whyte/

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Quote from: Distinctin on July 07, 2023, 08:54:41 AM

This is a good opportunity for Dillian Whyte, as Anthony Joshua has already experienced losses in his career, and he may not be the same fighter he was when he was undefeated. While Dillian Whyte may still be considered the underdog, I am willing to take chances and perhaps even bet on him to level the rivalry. It's possible that we may witness a trilogy for this fight.

Both fighters are good this is worthy to watch as we all known that both fighter will give us a good and cleaned fight. About this matchup even though they have a good advantages in different aspects then one thing for sure only one will survive. Maybe the hungry one or the revenge one. Because this is their second fight which is we are all known that the underdog will want to prove who he is.

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Quote from: aioc on July 07, 2023, 10:02:45 AM

Dillian Whyte should have retired and yet here he is fighting Joshua because Joshua's manager Hearns thinks Whyte is a fighter, worth fighting for a rebound because Joshua has already beaten him, people think this is not the kind of fight worth in a PPV because both fighters do have the same reputation they once held.

For me, this is a good fight to watch, a match where both fighters struggle to get back on top is worth watching, retirement is looming on both fighters whoever loses here that's the end of the line for him, I just feel sorry for Joshua he still young and if he losses here he may not see a Fury or a Wilder fight that we hoped happen a few years ago.

They are worth watching but people are probably right as well about not worth PPV. Fans are cruel. After a few losses, fans will just look at them as just big blokes.
Looks like an exhibition fight but they are reviving the old quarrel between the two, while there are no other boxers stepping up after all they did not retire yet.

AJmight still win for the second time. It's just nothing else after that unless Usyk will still give him another fight. It will not be surprising if both announce their retirement after the fight.

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Here are some of the important information we need to know about the fight.

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When is Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte 2?
Anthony Joshua and Dillian Whyte will meet on Saturday 12th August 2023.

The main card is expected to start at 7pm, with ring walks for the main fight scheduled for 10pm (both UK time).

Where is Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte 2 taking place?
London's 20,000-capacity O2 Arena will host the fight, which was the same venue used for their first fight eight years ago.

Tickets for the rematch are set to go on general sale on Monday 10th July.

Where Can I Watch Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte 2?
Sports streaming platform DAZN have the rights for the rematch between Anthony Joshua and Dillian Whyte, which will be shown on DAZN PPV.

How much will Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte 2 cost on Pay Per View?
As mentioned, the fight will be shown on DAZN, with UK and Ireland viewers charged £26.99 on DAZN PPV.

Very affordable for a PPV price. Though the betting odds are not yet out, I'm expecting that Anthony Joshu would be the heavy favorite since he is the younger boxer and had accomplish more compared to Dillian Whyte who are supposed to retire according to one of our posters here.

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Dillian Whyte should have retired and yet here he is fighting Joshua because Joshua's manager Hearns thinks Whyte is a fighter, worth fighting for a rebound because Joshua has already beaten him, people think this is not the kind of fight worth in a PPV because both fighters do have the same reputation they once held.

For me, this is a good fight to watch, a match where both fighters struggle to get back on top is worth watching, retirement is looming on both fighters whoever loses here that's the end of the line for him, I just feel sorry for Joshua he still young and if he losses here he may not see a Fury or a Wilder fight that we hoped happen a few years ago.

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This is a good opportunity for Dillian Whyte, as Anthony Joshua has already experienced losses in his career, and he may not be the same fighter he was when he was undefeated. While Dillian Whyte may still be considered the underdog, I am willing to take chances and perhaps even bet on him to level the rivalry. It's possible that we may witness a trilogy for this fight.

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Obviously, DAZN wants to resurrect Joshua's career, if you suffer from two successive losses from championships and you have been beaten decisively you need a guy you have previously beaten to bring back your motivation to get back on the road again.
Joshua's career is on its way to oblivion if he losses this match, there is no fourth chance anymore Whyte can spoil Joshua's much-needed comeback.
Boxing fans whether they are fans or they are not fans of both boxers will have an interest in this fight because its a battle of who will stay and who will go.

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Robert Helenius is officially now the new opponent of Anthony Joshua this weekend. The 39-year-old Helenius just won a fight a few days ago in his native Finland. That was his return bout after losing a first-round knockout against Deontay Wilder.

A rematch is coming between former unified champion Anthony Joshua and Dillian Whyte this coming August 12 at the O2 Arena in the UK. Both fighters are rebuilding but the winner might get an eliminator or even a title shot. Whyte was KO'd by Tyson Fury last year for the WBC belt while AJ has a back-to-back defeat at the hands of unified champion Oleksandr Usyk.

AJ will remain a favorite in this fight but we better not count out Whyte. AJ is a completely changed fighter which is something Whyte can capitalize on. If AJ continues to try to box, not letting his hands go and Whyte is well-conditioned conditioned for a full fight then it will be a very exciting one. AJ might also get his confidence back knowing he already TKO'd Whyte when both of them are still unbeaten.

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